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totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

Doc Hawkins posted:

They went to Disney World, which is much bigger than Disneyland even before you count the three other huge parks included in the tickets.

I grew up in Florida, we went to Epcot as a family a few times, and it's fun but, uhhh, kids can have fun doing almost anything almost anywhere. Also there's a special rate for Florida residents.

Same difference to someone who's never going to go :D

And yeah, they really should have just sprung for fewer days and gone to do stuff outside of the park. There IS stuff to do outside of the parks in Orlando, right?

But then, they'd probably get a vehicle, which defeats the whole purpose in terms of saving money.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

totalnewbie posted:

and holy poo poo tickets are expensive :O I wanted to say they could just get cheaper tickets but drat. I am never going to Disneyland.

My kid wanted to go on one last Disneyworld trip before her graduation and it was cheaper to take a Disney cruise with two staterooms than stay on the park for a week with park hopper passes and reasonable hotel accommodations. 100% of the savings came from the fact food is included on a cruise, but horribly expensive in the parks.

That advantage was erased when you added in booze though.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

Because it's a family tradition and they went to their honeymoon there, do you need any other explanation other than that Disney has successfully commercialized family vacations that are now regarded as a generational tradition to be handed down from parent to child

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004
Can you imagine the future dystopian loving hell where parents are like "it's a family tradition" and they buy their child their first iPhone or whatever consumer good

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
I got the vibe that the parents are Disney obsessed and the trips were at least as much for them as they were for the tiny kids.

It does seem kinda weird to take literal babies on vacations, but hell, it's better* than those people who almost never leave their house until their kids are 4. Those people are weird


*as long as it's a vacation you can actually afford

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

Krispy Wafer posted:

My kid wanted to go on one last Disneyworld trip before her graduation and it was cheaper to take a Disney cruise with two staterooms than stay on the park for a week with park hopper passes and reasonable hotel accommodations. 100% of the savings came from the fact food is included on a cruise, but horribly expensive in the parks.

That advantage was erased when you added in booze though.

Lodging was like $450/night and didn't even include some basic rear end buffets? WTF?

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


totalnewbie posted:

And yeah, they really should have just sprung for fewer days and gone to do stuff outside of the park. There IS stuff to do outside of the parks in Orlando, right?

Outside the city is the Everglades, so fun if you're into unique undevelopable biomes. Some fishing. Skunk Ape Hunting.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

Because it's a family tradition and they went to their honeymoon there, do you need any other explanation other than that Disney has successfully commercialized family vacations that are now regarded as a generational tradition to be handed down from parent to child

This reminds me that I actually have family like this. My aunt and uncle have gone every year for decades, and now my cousins do the same thing. I think I still have some of the silver mickey mouse coins they gave me when I was a kid.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

totalnewbie posted:

Same difference to someone who's never going to go :D

And yeah, they really should have just sprung for fewer days and gone to do stuff outside of the park. There IS stuff to do outside of the parks in Orlando, right?

But then, they'd probably get a vehicle, which defeats the whole purpose in terms of saving money.

You can go see the lovely hotel that Mooney and Halley stayed at in The Florida Project.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Barry posted:

Lodging was like $450/night and didn't even include some basic rear end buffets? WTF?

I think you can buy a meal plan, but that also means you're eating park food which is terrible. And it's not like meal plans are inexpensive compared to anything except maybe buying food without a plan at Disney parks.

I'm not the best person to look down at people since I just spent a blood curdling amount of money there, but adults who like Disney REALLY like Disney and are highly price elastic. We can be in a terrible recession and a significant number of people will still find a way through those turnstiles.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

Because it's a family tradition and they went to their honeymoon there, do you need any other explanation other than that Disney has successfully commercialized family vacations that are now regarded as a generational tradition to be handed down from parent to child

My wife's family is like that with commercialized family traditions. Like how obsessed they were with those beloved American Girl dolls handed down from mothers to daughters since *checks notes* 1995.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Krispy Wafer posted:

My kid wanted to go on one last Disneyworld trip before her graduation and it was cheaper to take a Disney cruise with two staterooms than stay on the park for a week with park hopper passes and reasonable hotel accommodations. 100% of the savings came from the fact food is included on a cruise, but horribly expensive in the parks.

That advantage was erased when you added in booze though.

When I graduated high school Disneyworld still did Grad Nights, where every high school graduate in the state (split across a few nights) could go to the park from 10pm to 4am, as I recall for free, but it might have just been incredibly cheap.

It was bedlam. I was going to say don't know how they keep it running, but in writing this post I found they stopped in 2011, at which time the price for participating was 21.59 plus tax.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Fitzy Fitz posted:

This reminds me that I actually have family like this. My aunt and uncle have gone every year for decades, and now my cousins do the same thing. I think I still have some of the silver mickey mouse coins they gave me when I was a kid.

I mean, it could be worse, a friend of mine's aunt and uncle are like that with Atlantic City and gave me knives.

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Doc Hawkins posted:

Skunk Ape Hunting.

Planning my vacation already.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

Doc Hawkins posted:

When I graduated high school Disneyworld still did Grad Nights, where every high school graduate in the state (split across a few nights) could go to the park from 10pm to 4am, as I recall for free, but it might have just been incredibly cheap.

It was bedlam. I was going to say don't know how they keep it running, but in writing this post I found they stopped in 2011, at which time the price for participating was 21.59 plus tax.

I vaguely remember reading about this before that it's just a giant drunken orgy.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Doc Hawkins posted:

I mean, it could be worse, a friend of mine's aunt and uncle are like that with Atlantic City and gave me knives.

I loving love knives

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Doc Hawkins posted:

Outside the city is the Everglades, so fun if you're into unique undevelopable biomes. Some fishing. Skunk Ape Hunting.

Outside of Orlando is just swamp. The everglades is much further south. There is nothing worth doing in Orlando, Disney included.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Hard to describe doing anything Disney theme park related as "on the cheap" but there's certainly a lot cheaper ways to do literally everything she described.

Hotels can be found for less than $450/night. Often much less! Many of those places also include free shuttles to the parks, and included amenities like breakfast. They paid $450/night for a single hotel room, the kids were still sharing a bed, and breakfast was not included. You can stay at really nice beach resorts in Hawaii for that kind of scratch.

You can spend less than $250/day for food for 4 people. Most of the restaurants there are priced like either the average Applebees or Panera.

Ticket prices are pretty much fixed. There aren't really any good tricks there.

Much like "doing Vegas", you don't necessarily have to spend a pile of money, but if you want to spend a lot the establishments are experts at separating you from your money.

selfposting ahead
:ssh:
I have never spent that much on a vacation, and I did take my family of 5 to Europe for a month last year and spent a week for two in Hawaii earlier this year. Combined cost of both those trips was actually just barely above what they spent to spend a week in a theme park, lol.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Heh, Vegas is like one of the absolute cheapest vacations possible.

Flights and hotels are dirt cheap, even good ones, and you can get roaring drunk for free if you're willing to gamble for an hour.

Plus Craps is guaranteed free money every time :getin:

People just get owned when they do dumb tourist poo poo like the zip line over Fremont or rent a machine gun or buy a designer handbag from that giant mall

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

People just get owned when they do dumb tourist poo poo like the zip line over Fremont or rent a machine gun or buy a designer handbag from that giant mall

But shooting a machine gun isn't dumb.

There's a place in Vegas that let's you drive a tank over a car. You going to say that's dumb too?

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Heh, Vegas is like one of the absolute cheapest vacations possible.

Flights and hotels are dirt cheap, even good ones, and you can get roaring drunk for free if you're willing to gamble for an hour.

Plus Craps is guaranteed free money every time :getin:

People just get owned when they do dumb tourist poo poo like the zip line over Fremont or rent a machine gun or buy a designer handbag from that giant mall

Flights for sure are super cheap, hotels plus or minus. There are only a couple of hotels on the strip that are "good" by external standards (Wynn/Encore first and foremost) and most of the strip hotels are getting pretty dumpy. Food is expensive on the strip but it's the same big city prices you pay everywhere. Craps is definitely the best casino game!!!

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


Battlefield Vegas sounds like the only appealing thing in that whole town tbh

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Barry posted:

I vaguely remember reading about this before that it's just a giant drunken orgy.

Hahaha, what? I went with my class in 2001 (from Ohio) and it was pretty loving lame. I'm pretty sure there are no alcohol sales during Grad Night.

The only band playing that night that I recognized was Three Doors Down. Whatever we paid to get into Disney that night was far too much. Universal Studios was way better.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003

BMan posted:

Battlefield Vegas sounds like the only appealing thing in that whole town tbh

Last time I was in Vegas I really wanted to go to Battlefield, but then that shooting happened the night before we were going to go, and it felt kind of not ok to go shooting a big gun right after a mass casualty situation.

So we bought some weed gummies and wandered fremont street for an hour then went back to the hotel and watched netflix. That's my GWM story.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Krispy Wafer posted:

But shooting a machine gun isn't dumb.

There's a place in Vegas that let's you drive a tank over a car. You going to say that's dumb too?

No, but it's cheaper in Cambodia and the food is incomparably better. Does Vegas rent flamethrowers? Does it have skull caves? How about Angkor Wat, it have one of those yet OH MY BAD THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THEM EVER

Now I want prahok :(

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




I'm going to Cambodia later this year would it be BWM to shoot guns there?

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Fitzy Fitz posted:

I'm going to Cambodia later this year would it be BWM to shoot guns there?

Well, you'll work harder with a gun in your back - GWM!

For a bowl of rice a day - BWM :negative:

Slave for soldier, till you starve, then your head is skewered on a stake - extremely BWL

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Doc Hawkins posted:

I mean, it could be worse, a friend of mine's aunt and uncle are like that with Atlantic City and gave me knives.

What's wrong with knives?

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Fitzy Fitz posted:

I'm going to Cambodia later this year would it be BWM to shoot guns there?

So you're gonna take a Holiday in Cambodia?

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Whatevery you do, don’t try to bring your spent brass into Singapore. And if you do, and manage to talk it down to a warning, make double sure you search every pocket in your luggage for more brass so the next time you go through Chang-i, you don’t pop the same warning and end up in a windowless room for 24 hours.

Talking from a friend’s experience...

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




therobit posted:

So you're gonna take a Holiday in Cambodia?

better than disney am i right

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Well, you'll work harder with a gun in your back - GWM!

For a bowl of rice a day - BWM :negative:

Slave for soldier, till you starve, then your head is skewered on a stake - extremely BWL

:golfclap:

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web

H110Hawk posted:

Outside of Orlando is just swamp. The everglades is much further south. There is nothing worth doing in Orlando, Disney included.
The theater productions at UCF are phenomenal. And then go north a bit to Blue Springs and kayak with the alligators and see a billion manatees if it's the right season. And then go east and visit Kennedy Space Center, that's cool. And then shoot yourself, because you've done everything worth doing in central Florida and you're still stuck in central Florida.

Papa Was A Video Toaster
Jan 9, 2011





moana posted:

The theater productions at UCF are phenomenal. And then go north a bit to Blue Springs and kayak with the alligators and see a billion manatees if it's the right season. And then go east and visit Kennedy Space Center, that's cool. And then shoot yourself, because you've done everything worth doing in central Florida and you're still stuck in central Florida.

Can confirm Cape is cool, afterwards wanted to die as there was nothing to look forward to.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Well, you'll work harder with a gun in your back - GWM!

For a bowl of rice a day - BWM :negative:

Slave for soldier, till you starve, then your head is skewered on a stake - extremely BWL

LOL this is what I get for not reading before posting earlier. Way better joke my dude.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
:dogout:

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

Fitzy Fitz posted:

I'm going to Cambodia later this year would it be BWM to shoot guns there?

Get the package where you can shoot an RPG at a cow. https://71republic.com/2018/08/08/cambodia-tourists-buy-shoot-cows/

GWM: the salvagable cow bits probably feed the local villagers.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
I lurk the Disney thread because it is an amazing combination of BMW and very weird adults with expensive childhood obsessions. There are 'character meals' where people pay massive $$ for meals where you get to take pictures with poor people dressed in furry costumes. A well planned out Disneyworld trip seems to involve planning that takes almost all year. You book way ahead, then make sure you get dinner reservations right when the window opens for the dates of your trip. Then you gotta plan out those fast passes for the new Avatar themed rides, then claim they are so amazing that they bring tears to your eyes. To most Disney nerds, the food at Disneyworld is absolutely amazing. Can't forget about those Dole Whips!

Disney even has their own timeshare program which is just a stunning ripoff above and beyond the rest of it.

Papa Was A Video Toaster
Jan 9, 2011






He did it again! The mad man!

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

n8r posted:

I lurk the Disney thread because it is an amazing combination of BMW and very weird adults with expensive childhood obsessions. There are 'character meals' where people pay massive $$ for meals where you get to take pictures with poor people dressed in furry costumes. A well planned out Disneyworld trip seems to involve planning that takes almost all year. You book way ahead, then make sure you get dinner reservations right when the window opens for the dates of your trip. Then you gotta plan out those fast passes for the new Avatar themed rides, then claim they are so amazing that they bring tears to your eyes. To most Disney nerds, the food at Disneyworld is absolutely amazing. Can't forget about those Dole Whips!

Disney even has their own timeshare program which is just a stunning ripoff above and beyond the rest of it.

If you don't sign up for those character meals fast you get lovely characters. We got Chip and Dale. I'll leave it up to you to guess how far in advance we made those reservations.

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therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

n8r posted:


Disney even has their own timeshare program which is just a stunning ripoff above and beyond the rest of it.

THAT'S THE STUFF!

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