February Current Events: a momentary lapse of treason

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SlightlyMad: Jun 7, 2015; Gary’s Answer

Sooo. Mohammad Javad Zarif, the Iranian foreign minister has resigned. He was behind the nuclear deal that Trump threw away. Zarif was under pressure from hardliners after the deal was put to the shredder. Anyone want to place bets on how moderates will fare in Iran under the current circumstances? I wonder if anyone could have foreseen such a situation?

:thunk:

# ? Feb 26, 2019 08:47

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Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

President Trump�s elder daughter and White House senior adviser discussed in the interview, to be broadcast on Sunday, whether the 2020 presidential election would be centered around her father's capitalism versus the Democratic party�s perceived pivot toward socialism.

She said the U.S. economy was "doing very well" under her father's presidency. When asked what she would say to people to whom Ocasio-Cortez's new deal policy appealed, Trump said: "I don�t think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something. ... People want to work for what they get. So, I think that this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want"

# ? Feb 26, 2019 09:00

Riot Carol Danvers: Jul 30, 2004; It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Because she and her family have worked for literally anything they have :jerkbag:

# ? Feb 26, 2019 09:16

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

President Trump�s elder daughter and White House senior adviser discussed in the interview, to be broadcast on Sunday, whether the 2020 presidential election would be centered around her father's capitalism versus the Democratic party�s perceived pivot toward socialism.

She said the U.S. economy was "doing very well" under her father's presidency. When asked what she would say to people to whom Ocasio-Cortez's new deal policy appealed, Trump said: "I don�t think most Americans, in their heart, want to be given something. ... People want to work for what they get. So, I think that this idea of a guaranteed minimum is not something most people want"

cool, add minimum wage to the list of "commonplace things our president does not understand"

# ? Feb 26, 2019 09:32

Syrian Lannister: Aug 25, 2007; Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.; Sugartime Jones

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/02/25/paul-manafort-sentencing-1186562

Manafort says he�s been unfairly vilified by the Special Counsel and deserves less than 10 years

# ? Feb 26, 2019 13:41

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

India said they killed "300 terrorists" in Pakistan and Pakistan is saying this today:

https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/stat...ingawful.com%2F

This is gonna get fun

# ? Feb 26, 2019 14:53

Cugel the Clever: Apr 5, 2009; I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Given that Pakistan is still officially downplaying the number killed, it's likely at least whoever is putting the numbers forward wants an excuse to refrain from escalation. We'll see if either country's nationalist leader is eager to blow things out of control.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 15:01

LongDarkNight: Oct 25, 2010; It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.; Oven Wrangler

Regional nuclear war is extremely 2019.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 15:02

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008

LongDarkNight posted:

Regional nuclear war is extremely 2019.

That�ll solve the global warming issue for a bit.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 15:15

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

India said they killed "300 terrorists" in Pakistan and Pakistan is saying this today:

https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/stat...ingawful.com%2F

This is gonna get fun

Aren't those almost precisely the words Trump used in response to North Korea

# ? Feb 26, 2019 15:23

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

pantslesswithwolves posted:

That�ll solve the global warming issue for a bit.

the earth not dying is dependent upon the majority of the world being unable to afford a car lol

# ? Feb 26, 2019 15:28

Duzzy Funlop: Jan 13, 2010; Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Fallom posted:

Aren't those almost precisely the words Trump used in response to North Korea

Looks like the world is following the advice of "get smart"

# ? Feb 26, 2019 15:29

Oxygenpoisoning: Feb 21, 2006

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Looks like the world is following the advice of "get smart"

Speaking of DPRK. What�s the over under on Trump ending the Korean War declaration and announcing (well tweeting) the removal of US troops from the peninsula for Kim pinky swearing he will get rid of nukes?

# ? Feb 26, 2019 17:35

Plastic_Gargoyle: Aug 3, 2007

Someone remind me, doesn't the US have some kind of authority over Pakistan's ability to use their F-16 fleet for special weapons delivery? Some aspect of the contract they bought them under? I swear I remember reading this somewhere.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 17:54

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1100434679621210125

# ? Feb 26, 2019 18:00

Dead Reckoning: Sep 13, 2011

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

Someone remind me, doesn't the US have some kind of authority over Pakistan's ability to use their F-16 fleet for special weapons delivery? Some aspect of the contract they bought them under? I swear I remember reading this somewhere.

Every foreign military sales contract comes with a list of restrictions on what the end user may or may not do with the military technologies they are being sold, but the enforcement mechanism is pissing off the US Government and losing access to spare parts.

It's quite possible that the contract was deliberately silent/ambiguous about special weapons modification.

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# ? Feb 26, 2019 18:07

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Handsome Ralph posted:

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1100434679621210125

And everybody knew this the day of.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 18:09

US Berder Patrol: Jul 11, 2006; oorah

Alright, Pakistan we'll sell you fighter jets and missiles but you have to pinky promise to never ever use them on your little friends over here, okay

# ? Feb 26, 2019 18:16

Woof Blitzer: Dec 29, 2012; [-]

Remember when we gave Saddam anthrax? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 18:47

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

I had this thought that Modi would absolutely go ahead and escalate further given his history of agitating violence against Indian Muslims in Gujarat, guess now India is shelling the Pakistan side of Kashmir.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:04

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

https://twitter.com/ronanodowd/status/1100013942599045120?s=21

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:12

Stultus Maximus: Dec 21, 2009; USPOL May

Woof Blitzer posted:

Remember when we gave Saddam anthrax? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Nobody remembers.
Nobody remembers just a couple days ago when a Coast Guard officer was arrested in DC with a weapons stockpile and list of liberal targets.
Nobody remembers anything.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:22

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

I remember sailor

Edit: For people not Extremely Online

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/989813047773614080?s=19

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:24

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Remember what?

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:27

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

LingcodKilla posted:

Remember what?

Sailor!

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:28

Professor Bling: Nov 12, 2008; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Is he talking about that one shithead that took a bunch of pics of classified sub poo poo?

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:31

mods changed my name: Oct 30, 2017

yeah, his lawyer or something booked time on fox news to get him a pardon, lol

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:32

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

I don't remember

Edit: more great news concerning India vs Pakistan

https://twitter.com/KashmirIntel/st...ingawful.com%2F

Hot Karl Marx fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Feb 26, 2019

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:32

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1100467190476824576?s=21

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:54

Duzzy Funlop: Jan 13, 2010; Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

Speaking of DPRK. What�s the over under on Trump ending the Korean War declaration and announcing (well tweeting) the removal of US troops from the peninsula for Kim pinky swearing he will get rid of nukes?

I'm with you, but I'm not sure this is how over/under works, mein G�hne.

mlmp08 posted:

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1100467190476824576?s=21

I'm not even clicking this, gently caress this poo poo for loving ever

# ? Feb 26, 2019 19:57

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

Bootlicker voice: there�s literally no way to stop this and also I blame their parents.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:01

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Mark Harris (R) stole a House Election in North Carolina. During the election board meeting, he then had to begrudgingly agree that the election was tainted and needed a re-do, as otherwise, he would've perjured himself under cross-examination.

https://twitter.com/AndySpecht/status/1100474771253485570?s=19

He has now ruled himself out for the special election :laugh:

Still hope he and everyone involved goes to prison!

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1100476003351171072?s=19

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 26, 2019

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:20

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Two Scoops pardoning people for committing voter fraud. Not too far fetched amirite?

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:31

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

Two Scoops pardoning people for committing voter fraud. Not too far fetched amirite?

Does this one qualify as a federal crime?

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:38

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Casimir Radon posted:

Two Scoops pardoning people for committing voter fraud. Not too far fetched amirite?

Along those lines, here's deliberately confusing election fraud with voter fraud to own the libs.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1100414132531060737?s=19

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:40

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Will that stop him from trying?

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:40

Syrian Lannister: Aug 25, 2007; Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.; Sugartime Jones

Fallom posted:

Does this one qualify as a federal crime?

Depends but yes.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:41

Eej: Jun 17, 2007; HEAVYARMS

Just having a normal day guys (except my kitty might have cancer) so let's check the news

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/02/26/california-keeps-a-secret-list-of-criminal-cops-but-says-you-cant-have-it/

quote:

Their crimes ranged from shoplifting to embezzlement to murder. Some of them molested kids and downloaded child pornography. Others beat their wives, girlfriends or children.

The one thing they had in common: a badge.

Thousands of California law enforcement officers have been convicted of a crime in the past decade, according to records released by a public agency that sets standards for officers in the Golden State.

The revelations are alarming, but the state’s top cop says Californians don’t have a right to see them. In fact, Attorney General Xavier Becerra warned two Berkeley-based reporters that simply possessing this never-before-publicly-released list of convicted cops is a violation of the law.

The California Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training — known as POST — provided the information last month in response to routine Public Records Act requests from reporters for the Investigative Reporting Program at UC Berkeley and its production arm, Investigative Studios.

But when Becerra’s office learned about the disclosure, it threatened the reporters with legal action unless they destroyed the records, insisting they are confidential under state law and were released inadvertently. The two journalism organizations have rejected Becerra’s demands.

“It’s disheartening and ominous that the highest law enforcement officer in the state is threatening legal action over something the First Amendment makes clear can’t give rise to criminal action against a reporter,” said David Snyder, executive director of the First Amendment Coalition, a San Rafael-based nonprofit that advocates for free speech and open records.

The documents provide a rare glimpse at the volume of officer misconduct at a time of heightened interest over police accountability. The list includes cops who trafficked drugs, cops who stole money from their departments and even one who robbed a bank wearing a fake beard. Some sexually assaulted suspects. Others took bribes, filed false reports and committed perjury. A large number drove under the influence of drugs and alcohol — sometimes killing people on the road.

The Berkeley journalists chose not to publish the entire list until they could spend more time reporting to avoid misidentifying people among the nearly 12,000 names in the documents, said John Temple, director of the Investigative Reporting Program.

Still, the details are stunning in a state where officials have fought for years to keep virtually any record of police misconduct a secret. And they come amid a larger battle playing out in courtrooms throughout the state over California’s new police transparency law, Senate Bill 1421. Law enforcement groups have sued to limit the impact of that law, claiming it shouldn’t expose police disciplinary records created before the law took effect on Jan. 1.

Becerra himself has rejected public records requests from his own agency, and he is now being sued by a prominent First Amendment group for failing to comply. Many other agencies in California have followed the attorney general’s lead.

“Once you disclose a document that’s confidential and private, you can’t take it back,” Becerra told reporters earlier this month. ”You don’t get a second chance to get it right, you got to get it right the first time.”

While that law has garnered the most attention and a public fight over police disciplinary records, it was another law that took effect Jan. 1 that led to the disclosure of the convictions of thousands of law enforcement officers and applicants.

The secret list

Tucked into a public safety omnibus bill last year was a provision allowing the state’s Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training to keep information in its records showing when a current or former law enforcement officer is convicted of a felony or other crime that would disqualify them from being a cop.

Police departments often check POST’s records as part of the routine background check process when hiring new officers. But until the law changed, POST only labeled someone as being disqualified from serving in law enforcement when the person was convicted and had exhausted all appeals — which could take years and was difficult to track. The new law allows them to disqualify someone after a conviction, according to a POST spokesman.

So at the start of this year, Becerra’s office provided POST for the first time a list of what the agency says are convictions of current and former law enforcement officers and people who at one time had tried to become a cop.

POST provided 10 years’ worth of convictions — nearly 12,000 names in all — to the Berkeley-based investigative reporting organizations in early January in response to a public records request. Three weeks later the AG’s office sent a letter saying the records were “inadvertently” released and were considered confidential.

Attorney General Becerra’s office did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

Nic Marais, an attorney with Keker, Van Nest & Peters representing Investigative Studios, said the state’s assertions that the documents had been released “inadvertently” was hard to believe given that POST spent four weeks weighing the reporters’ request. In a letter to the AG, Marais wrote that because the documents appear to be a summary of public records, the disclosure exemptions cited by POST and Attorney General Becerra’s Office do not apply. Finally, he wrote that state law exempts reporters from prosecution for receiving records.

Snyder, of the First Amendment Coalition, argued the underlying records are in the public interest.

“Police officers are vested by the public with extraordinary power,” he said. “In order to monitor the use of that power, the public needs to know when they are over the line.”

But attorney Mike Rains, who represents police officers, questions why they should be singled out by such a list.

“To the extent the public wants that to be public record, I can understand that,” said Rains, who is leading a legal fight to block the release of officer disciplinary records under the new law.

“Why don’t we make that known for everybody?” Rains said of convictions, pointing out there’s no broad disclosure for lawyers, doctors, teachers and other trusted professionals.
What the conviction list reveals

Many of the indiscretions in the new documents released last month to the Berkeley investigative reporting organizations have never been revealed publicly until now. Some of the officers were fired from the force only after an arrest. Others remain on the job despite a criminal conviction.

About 3,500 names on the list appear to match the names of police officers in state personnel databases, and about 2,250 of those have been on the force within the last five years. But without more information, the exact breakdown of which individuals were in law enforcement as opposed to applicants to become an officer is still unclear.

Phil Caporale, a spokesman for POST, said his agency is using the list to check if active officers have committed crimes that should prevent them from working in law enforcement.

“There’s that potential. That’s what we’re trying to eliminate … to make sure no one out there is a peace officer today who shouldn’t be,” Caporale said.

The agency also is on the lookout for former cops with convictions who try to get back into law enforcement, he said. “We want to make sure those folks don’t slip through the cracks.”

Greg Jeong is on the list. He was an Emeryville police officer for a few months but failed his field training program. So he went to work as a dispatcher for the department. In August 2017, Jeong claimed to be a cop in order to buy a gun and three high capacity magazines in San Jose, according to court records. He was ultimately convicted of impersonating a police officer. Jeong declined to comment for this story.

Hayward police officer Joshua Cannon also is on the list. In October 2010, Cannon was arrested for driving drunk in Alameda County with blood alcohol nearly twice the legal limit. A CHP officer clocked him going 92 mph, and when the officer tried to pull him over, Cannon quickly pulled off the highway and down a sidestreet, court records show.

Cannon eventually stopped and told the CHP officer that he was a cop and carrying an off-duty weapon. According to the CHP officer, Cannon “started asking me for a ‘break,’” the report said. “He also asked me that if I was in his situation what would I do.”

Cannon was convicted of misdemeanor driving under the influence — and remains on the force. He declined to comment for this story, citing department rules against talking to the media.

The list also included a new revelation about a San Francisco police sergeant who had been the subject of numerous media reports for use-of-force complaints and shootings.

In 2014, Sgt. John Haggett was accused of helping a girlfriend dig up dirt on tenants. Internal Affairs started investigating after one of them claimed Haggett’s girlfriend made a disturbing threat: “My boyfriend is a police officer and will take care of you.”

Haggett, who is now retired, pleaded guilty in 2015 to a misdemeanor for accessing the confidential information. He did not respond to an interview request.

The San Francisco Police Department did not respond to a request for comment.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 20:45

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

n0T ALl cOpS

# ? Feb 26, 2019 21:22

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bulletsponge13: Apr 28, 2010

Wait, are you saying that some cops commit crimes? The people who are supposed to upkeep the laws are breaking them?

Hold right there, bucko. This is America. Cops never break the law; laws only apply to citizens, not that Thin Blue Line that keeps the darkies in check.

# ? Feb 26, 2019 21:27

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