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uber_stoat posted:is Lowtax spying on me through my phone?!!!! Lowtax doesn't do spyware, he does spineware
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Feb 28, 2019 00:06
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Farm Frenzy posted:and its also dying out slowly anyway and as it does the network effect gets weaker and the people there have less and less incentive to stick around as they slowly die they also start to become more and more brazen with data scraping (see current stuff about them not even needing you to have an account to steal your data) and up the skinner box poo poo 1000%
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Feb 28, 2019 00:23
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Powered Descent posted:Lowtax doesn't do spyware, he does spineware 
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Feb 28, 2019 00:23
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Food Boner posted:as they slowly die they also start to become more and more brazen with data scraping (see current stuff about them not even needing you to have an account to steal your data) and up the skinner box poo poo 1000% lol yes everyone i know has started getting tons and tons of notifications every day for any activity at all
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Feb 28, 2019 00:36
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Just parroting what someone else ITT said but the events thing is really the best thing FB has currently. It's not exactly a hard niche to fill but eventbrite doesn't quite fill that space.
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Feb 28, 2019 01:29
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net work error posted:Just parroting what someone else ITT said but the events thing is really the best thing FB has currently. It's not exactly a hard niche to fill but eventbrite doesn't quite fill that space. Yep, and a big part of a usable events platform is reach. That's less important for family stuff, as plenty of family's organise events personally anyway. But for communities without family ties, access to participants is a huge part of effective events. And sadly that's fb's power. The DNS idea is fantastic, tho, and someone should make it happen
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Feb 28, 2019 02:37
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The Saddest Rhino posted:lol at this guy who still emails his friends
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Feb 28, 2019 07:10
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Senju Kannon posted:i was more just sayin there’s reasons why people use facebook and can’t just stop using it and analysis of facebook and how to respond to it need to address them. Interesting POV
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Feb 28, 2019 07:38
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I have a FB account because it's the only social media platform my friends from college use and they all live 3000 miles away. Nice to keep up with them without having to actually talk all the time. I have like 30 friends, pretty much max security, and hardly post anything but pictures of things I've cooked.
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Feb 28, 2019 07:56
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cenotaph posted:I have a FB account because it's the only social media platform my friends from college use and they all live 3000 miles away. Nice to keep up with them without having to actually talk all the time. I have like 30 friends, pretty much max security, and hardly post anything but pictures of things I've cooked. could you give it up though?
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Feb 28, 2019 08:00
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Entorwellian posted:could you give it up though? If I could set up something else that's convenient to keep in touch with people as a group, yes.
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Feb 28, 2019 08:04
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https://twitter.com/katecrawford/status/1100958020203409408
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Feb 28, 2019 08:59
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In the near future: “I was wearing a white robe for visibility.”
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Feb 28, 2019 09:30
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Platystemon posted:In the near future: “I was wearing a white robe for visibility.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8njPF3R_ww
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Feb 28, 2019 09:42
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Internet of poo poo saves kid from self:quote:Eh. Kids are sneaky. I know one who kept his guns in a safe which is about as secure as it gets. His kid hid his phone in record mode to watch what he typed on the keypad. Kid basically wanted one to show off just like here. Luckily for my buddy he had a little wifi thing that sent him an email when the safe was opened.
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Feb 28, 2019 11:01
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Farm Frenzy posted:lol yes everyone i know has started getting tons and tons of notifications every day for any activity at all lol yeah their last resort seems to be weird friend suggestions. I get those after 2-3 weeks without logging in to check up on the peeps I don't see so often irl
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Feb 28, 2019 11:59
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cenotaph posted:If I could set up something else that's convenient to keep in touch with people as a group, yes. lots of people use discord these days
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Feb 28, 2019 13:49
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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/caseynewton/status/1100017968883396609?s=21 I'm way behind but holy loving poo poo, burn facebook to the ground
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Feb 28, 2019 15:37
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https://www.engadget.com/2019/02/28/amazon-brands-takedown-fake-listings/ amazon will just let brands take down their competitors poo poo now by "accidentally" declaring their items to be knockoffs of their stuff
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Feb 28, 2019 15:46
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Is it actually Facebook, or some third party contractor working for Facebook?
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Feb 28, 2019 15:46
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General Dog posted:Is it actually Facebook, or some third party contractor working for Facebook? of course its a 3rd party, which means facebook is not liable, and actually its moral they're creating jobs and its just too bad this one bad apple company isnt following facebook's strict policies and guidelines facebook trusted them...
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Feb 28, 2019 15:51
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General Dog posted:Is it actually Facebook, or some third party contractor working for Facebook? Who cares?
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Feb 28, 2019 16:38
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There's a qualitative difference between treating your own employees like dogs directly and laundering the mistreatment through a lovely third party.
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Feb 28, 2019 16:40
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General Dog posted:There's a qualitative difference between treating your own employees like dogs directly and laundering the mistreatment through a lovely third party. yes, that is the exact legal cowardice that corporations such as facebook hide behind to abuse their workforce. the workers are directly benefitting facebook, modifying the content on facebook's platform. they work for facebook.
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Feb 28, 2019 16:45
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General Dog posted:Is it actually Facebook, or some third party contractor working for Facebook? it's Cognizant, one of the big multinational outsourcing services companies fun facts about Cognizant:
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Feb 28, 2019 17:15
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and as contract employees become more commonplace, even outside of tech, these kinds of abuses are going to be more commonplace. management is definitely looking at these cases and taking notes on cutting labor costs
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Feb 28, 2019 17:19
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General Dog posted:There's a qualitative difference between treating your own employees like dogs directly and laundering the mistreatment through a lovely third party. Where are you going with this?
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Feb 28, 2019 18:52
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General Dog posted:Is it actually Facebook, or some third party contractor working for Facebook? Every lovely job is a third party contractor, so you can claim that all your employees are happy.
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Feb 28, 2019 19:14
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A majority or close to a majority of people in my site are contractors. Im on my project because employees don't work night shift so they just went 'eh, we'll contract some lower paid stooges to work this night shift gig'.
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Feb 28, 2019 19:33
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I did six years in call centers- large corporations absolutely shift the poo poo end of the stick to contracted companies. These companies are complicit, no doubt, in maintaining awful working conditions because it's how they survive The least worst one was the 1-800-MEDICARE project, because there was a congressional mandate to pay us $14/hr (in 2007) and provide health insurance but the labor practices were the same as the sketchy private centers I've worked at. I also worked there during a transition- publisher Pearson used to operate it, but it got sold to an investment firm and renamed Vangent- they then resold it to *drumroll* General Dynamics. It was way cool and good to work at a place essentially run by a Bain Capital type outfit with the aim of inflating value for resale to mil ind, tell you what The worst worst one was Cox cable under the aforementioned sketchy center, Affinitas (slogan "Affinitas: it's Latin for Relationship") where someone making GBS threads their pants was a monthly thing owing to the bathroom break policy and I got paid $8/hr (in 2009) to get yelled at for lovely policy (though it was hard to take a guy yelling about his reconnect fee seriously after working Medicare where callers were usually complaining about dying) close runner up was SiriusXM sales under The Results Companies- same poo poo, but if you were good at sales, you got back to back calls, ~30-50/day- with commission, assuming perfect attendance over a 12-week period, it was about $11/hr. If you were bad at sales, you got two or three calls a day and got paid ~$8/he to just sit there with almost no opportunity to get those numbers up. No books, no devices, no puzzles or pens or paper allowed, and co-workers were usually on a call, so- no socializing I was good at sales but bad at attendance so my commission reduced to about $9.50/hr, $76/day for the $2,000-$6,000/day in sales value I generated. okay I didn't mean to write all of these words but it clearly affected me- I won't work at a call center ever again, abject poverty is preferable. Absurd conditions to make Camus reel
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Feb 28, 2019 21:17
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Feb 28, 2019 22:23
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Once upon a time, a series of laws were passed to force companies to provide for their employees' welfare and not treat them too harshly, otherwise they would have to face some kind of punishment. So what are these massive corporations to do when they want to grind down on their employees for short term gain for shareholders and executives? Contract out most of your on the ground employees to some ephemeral third party so they can take all the responsibility for the human rights abuses. So what if they do all their work for one company, and that one company has total power over them? It's just some strangers only there for the day so far as the main corporation is concerned. The most glaring contradiction is how all these corporations in every other respect are vast amoebas that swallow up everything they touch, competitors, suppliers, middlemen, random companies in alternate industries, somehow they abstain from absorbing these contracting companies because they literally just exist to remove responsibility from the main employer.
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Feb 28, 2019 23:00
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having trouble discontinuing social media? Just have no friends 
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Feb 28, 2019 23:05
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Low Desert Punk posted:having trouble discontinuing social media? Just have no friends one weird trick discovered by a goon
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Feb 28, 2019 23:06
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tbf with all this talk about facebook, isn't one of the biggest problems that it's impossible to avoid even if you aren't a member because so much poo poo is web 2.0 now so they all got a facebook button in the api?
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Feb 28, 2019 23:08
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bring back old gbs posted:yes, that is the exact legal cowardice that corporations such as facebook hide behind to abuse their workforce. the workers are directly benefitting facebook, modifying the content on facebook's platform. they work for facebook.
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Feb 28, 2019 23:14
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belgend posted:tbf with all this talk about facebook, isn't one of the biggest problems that it's impossible to avoid even if you aren't a member because so much poo poo is web 2.0 now so they all got a facebook button in the api? Yep. Same with Google and Twitter. Basically every website embeds those companies' analytics scripts which can be used to track you across websites. Even blocking cookies and scripts isn't a 100% surefire way of not being tracked since they can fingerprint you in a million other ways. I don't have any real evidence of this but I assume the "do not track" thing is mostly ignored too.
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Mar 1, 2019 00:15
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also, facebook analyzes the posts and data from your friends who still use facebook, to try and determine if they post anything about you that's facebook's special sauce, and the reason they make such a big deal about their real name policy: if persons A and B happen to meet at a bar and hang out together, and then A mentions it in a Facebook post but B doesn't, then Facebook will apply what their algorithms learn from A's post to B as well. even if B isn't actually tagged in the post, and even if B isn't an active user
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Mar 1, 2019 00:54
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Low Desert Punk posted:having trouble discontinuing social media? Just have no friends You've been deemed to carry a higher risk for suicide so your insurance premiums and credit score will be adjusted accordingly.
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Mar 1, 2019 01:01
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Main Paineframe posted:also, facebook analyzes the posts and data from your friends who still use facebook, to try and determine if they post anything about you Also they gather unrelated information from third-party databases, it would seem. It won't be surprising at all when it's announced google/facebook have been doing some friendly-competition shenanigans to trade data and de-anonymize everything. Or that reselling the correlated information has compromised intelligence sources and gotten a lot of people killed in homophobic countries, etc.
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