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Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
They also made Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, which is basically a perfect movie

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Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Not animation but they did 21 & 22 Jump Street which are both hilarious, full of tons of meta humour about reboots and sequels

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
They dirrcted the pilot for The Last Man On Earth, and Will Forte named his character Phil Miller to gently caress with them.

21 and 22 Jump Street are both hilarious buddy cop action films, and the two seasons of How I Met Your Mother they were head writers on are the best two.

Basically, animation, live action, tv, or film, they really can't do any wrong. They have one of the most solid records out there.

[Edit: I don't know if Extreme Movie is any good but it appears to be a Lonely Island/Lord & Miller collab so
...]

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Feb 26, 2019

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

LeJackal posted:

Are you talking about his suit?

What are you trying to get at 🤔

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
one of the guys involved in 22 Jump Street's screenplay (Rodney Rothman) is also the one of Spiderverse's three directors directly involved with its screenplay

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Digamma-F-Wau posted:

one of the guys involved in 22 Jump Street's screenplay (Rodney Rothman) is also the one of Spiderverse's three directors directly involved with its screenplay

Having multiple directors sounds like a recipe for a clusterfuck, but then again with a big budget animated movie maybe that's actually a good idea compared to outsourcing scenes.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Hedrigall posted:

What are you trying to get at 🤔

Miles Morales is bi-racial, and it seems kind of weird to just completely ignore his Latino heritage as if that doesn't matter.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I forgot.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Just imagine how marginally watchable Solo would have been if Lucasfilm had some goddamn faith in their directors.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Just imagine how marginally watchable Solo would have been if Lucasfilm had some goddamn faith in their directors.

I was literally thinking about that this morning. I’d love to see their cut of it.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

asecondduck posted:

the two seasons of How I Met Your Mother they were head writers on are the best two.

They only worked on parts of the first season, and I'd hesitate to call them head writers when Bays and Thomas had the writing credits on all the "big" episodes of that season, like the pilot and the finale. The two episodes they are the credited writers on are pretty good though.

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Just imagine how marginally watchable Solo would have been if Lucasfilm had some goddamn faith in their directors.

I honestly think Solo is a perfectly solid, watchable movie as is, but I agree that it could have used a more personal stamp and it would have been nice to see Lord and Miller's vision for it.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


Macaluso posted:

They also made Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, which is basically a perfect movie

Seriously, that movie had no right to be as good as it was. I was really surprised by it.

Nokanoh
Jan 24, 2014
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-mn-emma-thompson-john-lasseter-skydance-20190226-story.html

Rather then working with Lasseter, Emma Thompson stepped down from a movie.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

howe_sam posted:

They only worked on parts of the first season, and I'd hesitate to call them head writers when Bays and Thomas had the writing credits on all the "big" episodes of that season, like the pilot and the finale. The two episodes they are the credited writers on are pretty good though.

Huh, I could have sworn they were listed as co-exec producers for the second and third season. My mistake!

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002
Finally got around to seeing Ralph Breaks the Internet.

Woof.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

ALFbrot posted:

Finally got around to seeing Ralph Breaks the Internet.

Woof.

Yeah, my kids watched it last weekend and checked out pretty quickly. The dialogue felt like a bunch of slogans from PSA posters chained together

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
The version of WBTI I watched had some... interesting subtitles

https://twitter.com/asecondduck/status/1080287582276210688

The movie was better for it I think

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

ALFbrot posted:

Finally got around to seeing Ralph Breaks the Internet.

Woof.

Yeah it's loving bad.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Came back from How to Train Your Dragon 3 tonight. It is mostly going to be what you expect. These people create jaw-droppingly beautiful animations. They are masters at wringing emotions. They got cute dragons and they know how to use 'em. And I'm feeling as mixed about it as you'd expect as well.

The incredible strength of the original HTTYD lay in the symmetry and simplicity of its themes: Prejudices can be overcome. Toxicity can be overcome. Cycles of hatred and violence can be overcome with education and empathy.

But the overall theme of this final installment seems to be that...nah, they can't? Or that only some people can overcome those things? For the rest of this shithole of a planet, though, the best we can hope for is to try to get away from their bullshit?

So because we fundamentally cannot make the primo assholes of the world stop destroying all the good creatures in it, we're just gonna hide those creatures away and then...maybe, someday, not now but in some potential future if we work really hard at it or if we're really lucky I guess...the world might be ready to live peaceably with them in a way that it isn't ready for now.

...yeah like. It almost feels like the original HTTYD was a film that encapsulated 2010, while this film is one that encapsulates 2019.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

BrianWilly posted:

...yeah like. It almost feels like the original HTTYD was a film that encapsulated 2010, while this film is one that encapsulates 2019.

I think this is more apt than you intended. The original HTTYD is about how killing the right monster will make everyone get along in a happy cross-species paradise.

So yeah, it's very much a movie from the Obama years, a period that left us burdened with dumb concepts like "toxicity".

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

They also made the Lego movie! Dudes are doing great.
Honestly, it’s shocking they weren’t even nominated for the Lego Movie.

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

starkebn posted:

Yeah, my kids watched it last weekend and checked out pretty quickly. The dialogue felt like a bunch of slogans from PSA posters chained together

Yeah, remember when the movie became about cyberbullying for one scene, and then never again? Great stuff.

Wendell
May 11, 2003

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

dumb concepts like "toxicity".

What?

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

I really enjoyed HTTYD3.

It's not perfect. Ruffnut acts incredibly stupid in a scene solely for the purposes of moving the plot along, Hiccup's mom doesn't get to be nearly as badass as she was in part 2, and I don't think it quite hits the emotional highs of the first movie.

But if you aren't getting misty eyed at the ending I don't know what to tell you. There's also from downright beautiful animation from a lot of the dragons and some really nice quiet scenes where you can just enjoy the music and the cool dragons.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
I’ve never liked the design of the dragons except toothless. They never seemed to fit right with the rest of the world design. There I said it.

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Nikaer Drekin posted:

Yeah, remember when the movie became about cyberbullying for one scene, and then never again? Great stuff.

Remember when even that was only the barest, barest attempt to address any ills the internet has to offer?

Setting aside the convoluted plotting, hollow emotional underpinning, complete breakdown of established rules, and obnoxious "brand leveraging," I was struck by just how much the movie primes the audience of children to be internet consumers.

Ralph and Vanellope are besieged by pop-ups promising lonely housewives, weight loss, and get-rich-quick schemes, which almost plays like a "haha wow, isn't the internet full of garbage?" except that they then follow Spamley into his seedy venture, only to be given a legitimate avenue to get $40,000 very quickly playing video games. There's no catch! He even helps Ralph again later at no personal benefit, and then attempts to save his life in the climax. What a nice, helpful man! Click away, children!

Then they head to BuzzTube, headed by an extremely busy media mogul who rightly dismisses them until she recognizes viral potential. Completely inexplicably, she decides to abandon all her work and help Ralph reach his goal for ten hours. She is obviously exploiting him and making him completely sell out and whore himself onto every vapid meme trend of the moment, regardless of consequence. What's the fallout from this? Nothing! Ralph gets popular, and is handed $30,000. And then she tries to help save them in the climax. What a benevolent force for good this medium is. Content is king, children!

Meanwhile, Vanellope is sent out as part of a pop-up army, trying their best to get Ralph the engagement he needs. In this way, clicking on ads and consuming content is framed as a noble act: doing your part to help the humble Content Creators get what they need to survive.

There's about 20 seconds spent in the "dark web", but it's barely explored. There's another 10 seconds of failed and old website wasteland, but this is played for laughs instead of as a grim reminder that all this new and shiny stuff will similarly be ground into dust and forgotten when the next thing comes along.

The only downside portrayed is the aforementioned comments section, but even that is sanitized and just encouraging kids that they can consume whatever garbage is out there, as long as they don't engage with the comments. Keep watching, kids! Buy away!

I wasn't expecting them to have avatars making GBS threads everywhere and shouting racial slurs, or for Ralph and Vanellope to stumble into 4chan or gamergate or anything, but I was hoping there would be SOMETHING there to teach kids how to safely view the internet. Instead, it's presented as a safe and fun playground where everyone is actually very friendly and helpful.

Without this extremely gross-feeling coating around it, I MAYBE could've looked past some of RBTI's other issues, but instead they were magnified.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Plus they give a totally false depiction of how ebay(or any kind of real world) bidding works. I bet that really irked some people there despite the brand partnership.

Was there any innuendo towards internet porn because lol if they did and I missed it.

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Shaocaholica posted:

Plus they give a totally false depiction of how ebay(or any kind of real world) bidding works. I bet that really irked some people there despite the brand partnership.

Was there any innuendo towards internet porn because lol if they did and I missed it.

As far as I remember, only the housewives pop-up ad.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
See I would have just had an 'adult-hub' billboard out of focus in the background somewhere in the dark web zone or at the end hidden in the chaos of the action because I'm edgy like that.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is
the adult hub is just people complaining about doing their taxes

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.


ignore that guy, he's a twit who can't grasp the concept of 'stop making GBS threads up threads of things you don't like'

Mamkute
Sep 2, 2018
Wow, I was not expecting Pirates! Band of Misfits! to end with [spoiler] 19th century pizza gate being real. [spoiler]

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



https://twitter.com/sun__spider/status/1100582693719425024?s=19

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
HTTYD3's ending seems tacked on. Or rather, seems like the rest of the movie was tacked onto it. (and I assume given the monologue that it was taken directly from the books)

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

Ghost Leviathan posted:

HTTYD3's ending seems tacked on. Or rather, seems like the rest of the movie was tacked onto it. (and I assume given the monologue that it was taken directly from the books)

Oh just wait till you see the new Holiday special :allears:

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
Most of it was fine, but I really didn't like the ending of HTTYD3; it didn't seem earned. Okay, Toothless leaving, that was foreshadowed enough. But why did everyone else suddenly decide to tell their dragons to go at the same time? There was no indication at all that anyone else was going through the same struggle Toothless was, and as far as I could tell, by the beginning of the movie, they were already doing a pretty bang-up job treating the dragons as equals rather than as pets or slaves. And the conclusion Hiccup seemed to have drawn, that the world wasn't ready for dragons, was based on a sample size of one person (given that they'd been fighting off all the others for years and never given it a second thought). Not to mention that historically, I don't think there has ever been any occasion where segregating two communities resulted in them liking each other more.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Not to mention it seemed like New Berk would be a difficult place to live for a population suddenly deprived of flying steeds, where it was specifically pointed out as perfectly sustainable and defensible for their community as it was.

Thing is, the ending could have worked if they'd actually made an effort to earn it; that most of the world views dragons as dangerous monsters at worst, living weapons at best, and that a dragon-riding community is such a target for powerful empires that they're better off hiding the dragons until more of humanity outside one village learns to respect nature. But that doesn't gel with how Berk's dragon riders were indicated to be both a strong community and a military superpower, and under Hiccup's leadership able to be both fierce and kind when necessary, enough to win the trust of a wild dragon who understandably fears and distrusts humans. Of course, that'd probably mean their victory in the end would have to be more bittersweet than optimistic, and can't have that tone for a Hollywood movie.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~



This is super funny, but I totally understand why it got cut.

From what I've seen of the deleted scenes I really respect how the creators of Into the Spiderverse were willing to sacrifice some really good stuff in order to preserve the overall tone and flow of the movie.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The movie was stuffed full as it is. (no pun intended)

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