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I don't mean this as contrarian shade — I have so much respect for Trent Reznor and his body of work, and most of all, the kindness he showed to Gary Numan (his cover of "Metal" is  )It's just I don't know too too much about Nine Inch Nails' body of work. I checked out Pretty Hate Machine last year and was unimpressed — maybe had trouble identifying with it in my thirties. Maybe (probably??) Reznor's lyrics just aren't that good. So, last week I discovered the Head Like a Hole maxi-single, which made me reconsider my limited assessment of Reznor. I still think Reznor is a weak lyricist (I'd be interested to hear a counterargument), but what is so beautifully clear on this maxi-single, is Reznor's skill as a producer and his ear for samples. It's a staggeringly good work, and it's so much fun to hear Reznor toy around with merely "okay" tracks from the album and turn them into straight-up goth club dancefloor bangers. tl;dr: hot take — the Head Like a Hole maxi-single is a better Nine Inch nails record than Pretty Hate Machine
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...have you listened to The Downward Spiral? And perhaps The Fragile? Pretty Hate Machine is definitely quite simple; and perhaps the Broken EP is too, though people love the hard edge.
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DasNeonLicht posted:I don't mean this as contrarian shade — I have so much respect for Trent Reznor and his body of work, and most of all, the kindness he showed to Gary Numan (his cover of "Metal" is You should try Purest Feeling, his first demo “album.” Some of the PHM songs show up in different forms along with a few dropped tracks. It’s an interesting look at how he formed the sound of PHM.
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downward spiral and year zero are extremely good concept albums that i still revisit tracks from regularly, as they hew disturbingly closely to the dystopian hellscape we live in.
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DasNeonLicht posted:It's just I don't know too too much about Nine Inch Nails' body of work. I checked out Pretty Hate Machine last year and was unimpressed — maybe had trouble identifying with it in my thirties. Maybe (probably??) Reznor's lyrics just aren't that good. I love Pretty Hate Machine but if I hadn't got into it as an angsty 18 year old, I don't think I'd like it in remotely the same way. It is very definitely a more simplistic (though still good) album for Troubled Young People so I think you're not wrong.
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The downward spiral was the most amazing album when I was ~16, definetly a gateway drug. I liked the fragile mostly but anything newer is firmly in the same pile as fla/sp/ministrys post 2000 stuff, the what the gently caress is this poo poo pile.
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I liked the Quake soundtrack Edit: Which was made by Trent Kamrat fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Mar 4, 2019 |
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Not going to lie. 16 year old me bopping around in my lame rear end late 70's Malibu never let Pretty Hate Machine leave the car. Cringey wankfests like "Something I Can Never Have" was totally speaking to my teen angst. When I hit college, started playing with  and crawling into romantic lit holes, the dark and edgy stuff from TDS was infinitely quotable. A lot of it doesn't play well today for sure. Hard to buy into the misery when he's touring a light show that cost a small fortune. Still, I think those classic cuts channel well to a live arena. He can write a dope rear end hook, and at that point you have no choice to but scream along with the crowd chanting "FIST gently caress."
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For an album from 1989 that Reznor probably wrote most of as a teenager Pretty Hate Machine is very very good still. Also consider that Reznor went from doing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWccbyICM_A to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZI0KyBjaGs
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I was never a NIN fan, but I prefer Pretty Hate Machine to Downward Spiral. Downward Spiral sounds (with a few exceptions like Reptile and Closer) overproduced in comparison. Which is fine, Ron Zertnert is very talented, but the first one is more endearing. edit: also, what was with the caked in mud / dreadlock thing NIN and Skinny Puppy did for a year or two? Was that like taking Grunge to the next level or something? thotsky fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Mar 4, 2019 |
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Millions of Crows posted:For an album from 1989 that Reznor probably wrote most of as a teenager Pretty Hate Machine is very very good still. The Purest Feeling demo I posted earlier shows an interesting step in the evolution from this sound to PHM
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david_a posted:His lyrics aren’t amazing but this is industrial we’re talking about; Ministry & FLA are basically 95% aggressive nonsense and Skinny Puppy is nearly incoherent stream-of-conscience ramblings most of the time. haujobb's lyrics actively got worse when Daniel's English improved and he wasn't just copying and pasting from the Neuromancer or putting literal nonsense in his songs. I'm not huge into early NIN but I think The Fragile (which will be 20!) and Year Zero are both excellent. To me NIN got great when all the early electro-industrial bands were either breaking up or getting kind of lovely. Then NIN kind of got bad with their last few releases while Skinny Puppy and haujobb's last releases were really good.
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Saw Laibach last night. It was really awesome and definitely one of my top ten favourite gigs. Blew away the previous time that I saw them a few years back. First half of the set is The Sound of Music, second half is old 80s songs and is Extremely Industrial, plus some encores. If you're at all into them, definitely worth going.
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I've got a ticket to the Oslo gig. Their last one here (The Zarathustra one) was so-so, but I dig this album a lot more. The venue is small and for some reason they're charging stadium-rock prices, so I hope most of that is going to the band.
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Biomute posted:edit: also, what was with the caked in mud / dreadlock thing NIN and Skinny Puppy did for a year or two? Was that like taking Grunge to the next level or something? NIN were caked in mud for Woodstock, but if I remember correctly that was just happenstance during the set. I'm not sure if it was ever a "look" for them corresponding with an era. Everyone remembers that set though. They were on that Self-Destruct tour. Hungry, raw, and going for it. Being caked in random goo/stage blood was pretty much Puppy's stage show in their classic era. As for the dreads, I got nothing. Key has long hair, likes dub, and loves the weed.
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I think about this tweet a lot https://twitter.com/vineyille/status/935189014600134656
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MassRafTer posted:haujobb's lyrics actively got worse when Daniel's English improved and he wasn't just copying and pasting from the Neuromancer or putting literal nonsense in his songs.
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Biomute posted:I've got a ticket to the Oslo gig. Their last one here (The Zarathustra one) was so-so, but I dig this album a lot more. The venue is small and for some reason they're charging stadium-rock prices, so I hope most of that is going to the band. Weird, they weren't that expensive here. By way of example, Interpol are playing the exact same venue soon and tickets for that gig cost literally twice the amount that Laibach cost. I mean it costs the same to see Interpol in a 1000ish capacity venue as it does to see people like Madonna or Britney Spears in arenas. Ticket pricing is strange.
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Despite NIN not being the way I got into industrial they were super important to the way I consume music. A friend in HS wanted to get rid of all of his NIN CDs and so I ended up with all the NIN remix releases and started thinking "hey these are better than the album cuts." And that's a bad thing to think when all of these bands are putting out remix albums.
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hatelull posted:Key has long hair, likes dub, and loves the weed. I don't think he has long hair or dreadlocks anymore. It's not a great look when you're losing your hair.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I don't think he has long hair or dreadlocks anymore. It's not a great look when you're losing your hair. I wish aging goths would realise this 🙁
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'DOWNWARD SPIRAL': 3TEETH ON HOW NINE INCH NAILS EXPANDED DARK MUSIC'S HORIZONS Conveniently topical!
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3Teeth posted:WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE DOWNWARD SPIRAL TRACK, AND WHY? 
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I love my dumb gay NSK dads.
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Laibach just keep getting weirder and weirder
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The swastika oh god I can't even
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Danger - Octopus! posted:The swastika oh god I can't even I didn't even see that, wow! I'm loving blind
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Also the video seems to be still active but unlisted so no one can find it?
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Swastika a bit on the nose perhaps; otherwise creepy as gently caress.
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Every now again when I want to find new artists to listen to I check out the Out of Line youtube page, this time I found Yellow Lazarus and I thought that I'd share it with you fine people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dy_Sj-pCGo
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Currently enjoying an hour of farmhouse noises, setlist has none of the hits.
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thotsky posted:Currently enjoying an hour of farmhouse noises, setlist has none of the hits. Yesssssssss Also "Vulkan Arena" sounds metal as hell
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First (second?) set was great. Love the new album, too bad not everyone on it could join this concert. Dude with the Korg MS-10 was killing it. New lady is great. Edit: that was some gig, after sound of music they did either some new poo poo or a free jazz interpretation of their real early stuff. This was followed with sympathy for the devil and some good stuff they played last time. At that point I thought they were done, we certainly were, but they launched into a soul number and then a country tune, complete with cowboy hat. thotsky fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Mar 16, 2019 |
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Roll for initiative with this enormous Combichrist boxed set:  a 3 CD box set! A drawstring bag! and more!!! Only $66.66 quote:The Fire is aroused – Combichrist are back, and they set their full arsenal into state. Precise. Lurking. Merciless. The ninth studio album „One Fire“ will be released on 7th of June, and it shows a band, that‘s march of triumph made the whole world looking – and that‘s hunger for more makes it even more dangerous.
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Who the gently caress does Andy LaPlegua think he is to cover California Uber Alles?
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Live show will be 99% less entertaining since Joe Letz cleaned up and quit for Aesthetic Perfection instead Lead single from the album is... not very good. NonzeroCircle fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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Pope Guilty posted:Who the gently caress does Andy LaPlegua think he is to cover California Uber Alles? Haha yeah he's pretty chuddy. 
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Maybe he missed the point, just saw the "uber alles" bit and took the wrong message
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boo_radley posted:Roll for initiative with this enormous Combichrist boxed set: Certificate of authenticity lol
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Maybe he missed the point, just saw the "uber alles" bit and took the wrong message Seems most likely
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