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Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb
how the gently caress does twitter let accounts like this continue to exist

https://twitter.com/MikePFanAccount
https://twitter.com/EnglandOurLand
https://twitter.com/Goy_Talk_USA
https://twitter.com/k4t4klysm

like, you don't even have to delve deep and there's a mile-long stretch of fascists on twitter just waiting to toss out the old 1488 and reminisce about mengele.

fix your poo poo, twitter, goddamn

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gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Sestze posted:

how the gently caress does twitter let accounts like this continue to exist

https://twitter.com/MikePFanAccount
https://twitter.com/EnglandOurLand
https://twitter.com/Goy_Talk_USA
https://twitter.com/k4t4klysm

like, you don't even have to delve deep and there's a mile-long stretch of fascists on twitter just waiting to toss out the old 1488 and reminisce about mengele.

fix your poo poo, twitter, goddamn

It's because @jack is a Nazi, op

Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb

gschmidl posted:

It's because @jack is a Nazi, op
look, fine, he's a nazi, but this poo poo is far and away beyond being a nazi and is going into "bad optics, possible mass shooter" territory

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Sestze posted:

look, fine, he's a nazi, but this poo poo is far and away beyond being a nazi and is going into "bad optics, possible mass shooter" territory

why would jack, ceo of twitter, care if some people that aren't him (and likely don't look like him) are shot/stabbed/bombed?

Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb

Hellsau posted:

why would jack, ceo of twitter, care if some people that aren't him (and likely don't look like him) are shot/stabbed/bombed?
didn't gab get sunk by that poo poo?

then again, gab was a smaller platform, and they have the plausible deniability of "we can't monitor all content on this website"...

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Rubin is stupid as gently caress

https://twitter.com/zei_nabq/status/1102527456056102912

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


every time there's a mass shooting twitter gets a huge torrent of new posts and probably a bunch of people registering new accounts to talk about the shooting and their opinions about it, which means more eyeballs and therefore more ad money

i mean they're nazi-loving dumbasses and probably haven't thought the whole thing through but seriously more shootings mean more money for twitter

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Sestze posted:

didn't gab get sunk by that poo poo?

then again, gab was a smaller platform, and they have the plausible deniability of "we can't monitor all content on this website"...

I think twitter started making money last year, so people don't really give a poo poo. They comply with the law by blocking accounts like that in places like France and Germany, so they are very aware those accounts exist. But they also make people interact with the platform and don't care why.

Its why Loomer didn't get banned until she harassed jack IRL

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Sestze posted:

didn't gab get sunk by that poo poo?

then again, gab was a smaller platform, and they have the plausible deniability of "we can't monitor all content on this website"...

twitter will face zero repercussions from payment processors if a right wing lunatic tweets a whole bunch of violent racist poo poo and then murders some people

twitter faced zero repercussions from payment processors last time when a right wing lunatic tweeted a whole bunch of violent racist poo poo and then murdered some people

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Twitter also enables racist, bigoted, misogynist bloated syphilitic fuckbag Donald Trump's incoherent ragevomit 24/7.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
perhaps we should not visit this web site twitter dot com???? :thunk:

Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb

Neon Noodle posted:

perhaps we should not visit this web site twitter dot com???? :thunk:
it's so handy for tracking the movements and culture wars that the fash engage with

that MikePFanAccount account has a bunch of last-ditch-effort posting about the RAM kids being set free because of the "unconstitutional precedent" set by one of the crimes they were charged with

also bitching about being snitched on by fellow fash. It's like watching them implode slowly while failing to meme with anything better than <insert random picture of Hitler here>

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

ugh when the gently caress did he come to australia?

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Slugnoid posted:

ugh when the gently caress did he come to australia?

It's where right-wing grifts go to die.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003


Noam chomsky man

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



twitter loving sucks and is 100% evil but unfortunately without it we'd also hear literally nothing about any protests, police brutality, and especially we'd never hear anything about labor solidarity forming and strikes

doxxing would be a lot harder esp if your goal is to name and shame as well

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

"that glazed over zombie look"

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008



My grandparents: owned a house, owned a refrigerator

Me: doesn't own house, refrigerator belongs to the landlord

Checkmate liberals.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
lmfao Tiny fled the country (sort of)

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011


Incredible that he describes his own style as trickery and his audiences as zombies and anyone still listens to him.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1102634115504005120

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
670k views

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I'm not a comics nerd so correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Captain Marvel canonically been a woman off and on for like decades now? Weren't they just moaning about how white blonde women aren't represented enough in the MCU or whatever?

Equeen
Oct 29, 2011

Pole dance~
The first female Captain Marvel was a black woman named Monica Rambeau. The backlash would have been so much worse had the MCU went with her instead of Carol Danvers.

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Epic High Five posted:

I'm not a comics nerd so correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Captain Marvel canonically been a woman off and on for like decades now?

yes

she's also boring as poo poo between superman's powers and tony stark's 'ends totally justify the means' philosophy

quote:

Weren't they just moaning about how white blonde women aren't represented enough in the MCU or whatever?

arguing in bad faith? :thunk:

Equeen posted:

The first female Captain Marvel was a black woman named Monica Rambeau. The backlash would have been so much worse had the MCU went with her instead of Carol Danvers.

this part i wasn't aware of

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Epic High Five posted:

I'm not a comics nerd so correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Captain Marvel canonically been a woman off and on for like decades now? Weren't they just moaning about how white blonde women aren't represented enough in the MCU or whatever?

Strong female superheroes fighting misogyny are kryptonite to these people.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Youtube should really have some sort of blue-check system for videos that are allowed to come up in search and/or recommendations. This poo poo is interminable. You should be totally allowed to upload this dumb poo poo but promoting it shouldn't be youtubes job.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



this is the natural evolution lol, from shut-ins screaming about what they believed to be traditionally white male spaces being opened up by capital (though they blame SJWs and Soros of course) and the movie making a billion dollars anyway, to exactly that same situation except now the primary platform for radicalizing right wing extremists is massively signal boosting it

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

marvel must be kicking themselves that it took them a decade to finally have minority leads, they could've been riding the easy PR wave of 'watch this movie a handful of internet chuds hate!' for awhile now

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


Captain Marvel’s been a woman or an alien (and sometimes, an alien woman) since like 1982, although Carol Danvers - who Brie is playing - became CM in 2012.

I’m honestly still unsure what the hell the argument against the movie is - there’s so many things to attack like the fact that they hired a woman director but legit just said “oh we’ve got guys to handle the action scenes” to her (and she went along with this), or that the movie is using the social justice aspect to sell a movie that looks intrepidly tepid and bland, or the fact that it’s yet another Marvel movie that is going to be two hours plus of those armed services commercials that used to just play BEFORE the movie, but I guess they’re mad that she once maybe criticized white guys if you squint real hard and turn your head to the side?

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

The Cameo posted:

“oh we’ve got guys to handle the action scenes” to her (and she went along with this)

I don't know exactly just how much control they wrested from her and wouldn't mind reading about it but I'm doubting the idea that Anna Boden was just shut out of the whole process....and tbh I would rather they hire people like Waititi and Coogler and give them a ton of help with giant CG action fests rather than someone who knows how to do that and is boring as poo poo otherwise.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


belgend
Mar 6, 2008

me when The Club do another win

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Youtube should really have some sort of blue-check system for videos that are allowed to come up in search and/or recommendations. This poo poo is interminable. You should be totally allowed to upload this dumb poo poo but promoting it shouldn't be youtubes job.

yeah let's have the tech giants self verify accounts, that never backfires

Silly Hyena
May 2, 2014
Youtube already verifies accounts and promotes them in search results. It's not as obvious as the blue ticks, but on their videos they have a little grey arrow next to their name if they're verified.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

belgend posted:

yeah let's have the tech giants self verify accounts, that never backfires

The current system procedurally generated a child porn social network with nothing more than the recommendation algorithm.

Doesn't even need to be a real blue check system. Just stop treating everyones loving garbage rear end uploads as something everyone on Earth should see just because 100 other incel dorks or a bunch of bots clicked on it. If someone wants it let them search it out and watch it and if they like it let them promote it somewhere else. Just be a lot more choosy with what youtube recommends.


The idea that a video gets shoved into everyones faces just because it manages a bunch of hits is a terrible and insanely easy to game system. Be less lazy.

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


Intel&Sebastian posted:

I don't know exactly just how much control they wrested from her and wouldn't mind reading about it but I'm doubting the idea that Anna Boden was just shut out of the whole process....and tbh I would rather they hire people like Waititi and Coogler and give them a ton of help with giant CG action fests rather than someone who knows how to do that and is boring as poo poo otherwise.

Enough control that the movie's a co-directed deal (Anna Boden & Ryan Fleck).

When they offered Black Widow to Lucrecia Martel, they outright told her the same thing - "we want someone to concentrate on Scarlett's character, but don't worry about the action scenes", causing Lucrecia to balk because why wouldn't a director maybe want to be in charge of things like the climax of an action movie.

Also Coogler knows how to shoot action, he had just made Creed before getting Black Panther and, gently caress, he did the Hong Kong sequence in BP, which might very well be the best actual action sequence in a Marvel movie in the entire ten year run of these things. He's literally better at the action scenes than the people who are making the big action scenes (it's because Marvel pre-vizs the gently caress out of their heavily digital sequences and uses the same vendor every time - which leads to the big action sequences... looking basically the same, every time).

It's hilariously bullshit. I mean, a lot of action scenes are shot by second units, but generally those second unit directors are brought on... by the director.

Marvel is hilariously awful to the people making them massive amounts of money as a matter of course - Jon Favreau walking away from directing The Avengers after Iron Man 2 basically got chopped into an Avengers prequel instead of the story he pitched, Joss Whedon making them a billion as the director of Avengers and getting locked out of the editing bay on the sequel because he didn't want to include stupid Thor bullshit that had nothing to do with the movie, Patty Jenkins asking for a little more time for pre-production on Thor 2 and being told "nope, just go with our pre-viz", causing her to quit (and in turn leading Natalie Portman to go "gently caress this don't call me for another one of these", which is why Jane Foster, literally the female lead of Thor movies and who became Thor in the comics, has magically vanished with no real explanation), and

wait this isn't CineD

uhhhh

gently caress nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ieXs3HDnco

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

The Cameo posted:

Enough control that the movie's a co-directed deal (Anna Boden & Ryan Fleck).

Uhhh they've been working together writing and co-directing since the early 2000's. I'll take your word on the rest but that's absolutely not what Boden&Fleck is.

Silly Hyena
May 2, 2014

Intel&Sebastian posted:

The current system procedurally generated a child porn social network with nothing more than the recommendation algorithm.

Doesn't even need to be a real blue check system. Just stop treating everyones loving garbage rear end uploads as something everyone on Earth should see just because 100 other incel dorks or a bunch of bots clicked on it. If someone wants it let them search it out and watch it and if they like it let them promote it somewhere else. Just be a lot more choosy with what youtube recommends.


The idea that a video gets shoved into everyones faces just because it manages a bunch of hits is a terrible and insanely easy to game system. Be less lazy.

They already have a verification that does exactly this, and it results in the incel/pedo/nazi stuff because that's the system working as intended. This is the content Youtube *willingly* cultivates, it's not an accident.

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


Fair point, but then again I haven't seen anything they've done since Half Nelson.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
comic book movies are always going to be lowest common denominator trash blockbusters because they're based on nerd culture emphemera filtered through the movie industry which is probably the textbook example of indulgent late stage capitalism or whatever you call it. they will always be products first and foremost and as such they will be focus-grouped and revised by soulless marketing types to be exactly as progressive (or regressive) as necessary to make the maximum return on their budget.

arguing about them itt in any capacity besides how they make nazis and their fellow travellers stupidly angry is a massive waste of time and energy

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