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The rest of it is pretty transferrable too if your setting is one which contains small groups of highly skilled outcasts who wander from place to place solving problems with violence. It's kind of a given in any game I run that the adventuring community tends to be more accepting of people who don't fit into the boxes society expects of them.
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Nuns with Guns posted:The next step is to swap out the character sheets with GURPS fantasy and tell them it's a homebrew D&D system you've been working on for the past five years Rolling 3d6 is already far enough in they don't need to resort to trickery. Just need to grab a setting they think the players will like.
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super sweet best pal posted:Rolling 3d6 is already far enough in they don't need to resort to trickery. Just need to grab a setting they think the players will like. That was a joke but I'm going to trust that if fool_of_sound thought their group was 1. open to trying non D&D things at the moment and 2. still wanted to do a high fantasy adventure, viable alternatives to D&D rules would've already come up in an honest discussion.
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Whybird posted:The rest of it is pretty transferrable too if your setting is one which contains small groups of highly skilled outcasts who wander from place to place solving problems with violence. It's kind of a given in any game I run that the adventuring community tends to be more accepting of people who don't fit into the boxes society expects of them. Well, no. The question being answered was "any advice for making tabletop RPG campaigns feel inclusive to all races/genders/sexualities when playing in a real(ish)-world historical setting?" So the rest of that advice only applies if your setting reproduces historical oppression and bigotry for some reason, which there's no real reason for in D&D or anything else made up wholecloth. Adventurers being more accepting generally is a given, for sure. But there's no reason the "boxes" have to be the same as real life, and you should definitely check in with your players before adding in misogyny or homophobia or whatever as setting elements.
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It's Ars magica there is specifically a story flaw that says 'you are a member of a discriminated against social group of any kind' and taking it means 'I want this to come up'. If they don't take it, don't bring it up.
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Deadlands was set during the.... 15th? year of the Civil War, and it had a sidebar in the core rulebook about African American characters. Basically it said that after the war had gone on for so long, the south had ended slavery and allowed black soldiers to serve as equals on the battlefield to help it fill the ranks. After years of this, everyone treated blacks as equals. It also said this was kind of idealistic and dumb, but slavery and racism was horrible and unfun so in their game it was all mostly over, shut up, go fight zombies. In short, you make a game welcoming to all genders/races/whatevers by being welcoming to all those groups yourself.
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The Civil War has raged on now for a long 15 years. Why did we start this thing?
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remusclaw posted:The Civil War has raged on now for a long 15 years. Why did we start this thing? In Deadlands, it was because of state's rights. And giant worm gods.
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Well, no. The question being answered was "any advice for making tabletop RPG campaigns feel inclusive to all races/genders/sexualities when playing in a real(ish)-world historical setting?" But yeah I totally think everyone here is on the same page that even if you're playing in a setting with lovely details, there's no reason to force 'em on players and bring things to the front they may not opt into, and it's incredibly banal when biases are just copied and pasted, rather than inserting new customs like that whole "Horse-riding makes men sterile, so they ride side saddle/aren't knights" thing.
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For historical-themed stuff you very much want to decide which historical prejudices are essential to the themes of your game and which can be happily played down or ignored. From there, you want to look at the actual historical prejudices - not the popular assumption of how they went. For example, it is undeniable that women were disempowered in many respects in historical societies, but it's frequently not true that they had no power, and you can often find women who swam against the social current of their era. If you look at how the era actually treated gender roles, you can use those to enrich the setting and indeed set up some situations where women are better placed to act than men. (One of my pet hates is people who use "historically accurate" prejudice as an excuse for entirely anachronistic prejudice based off bad assumptions about history - or worse, use "historical accuracy" in general as a cover to produce a game which is all about the dudebros and takes no interest in women's experiences.) Take a practical example of this: I'm co-running a LARP campaign set during the Anarchy, the 12th Century civil war in the UK between King Stephen and Empress Matilda. We cannot ignore historical attitudes to gender in this game: if we did, then we make a complete mockery of the very political situation we want to examine because Matilda's gender was a big part of what gave Stephen the opportunity to usurp her and drove the whole conflict. On the other hand, we don't need to wallow in historical attitudes to, say, homosexuality, so we've taken the stance that it isn't any more or less disapproved of than the great swathe of heterosexual activities that the Church disapproved of at the time but which people engaged in all the time and confessed away anyway. (Also, we're 100% open to crossplay, so whilst IC your character is going to have various gender role-based expectations put on them unless they're in the Church, OOC you're wholly free to pick which set of gender role expectations apply.)
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Mystic Mongol posted:Deadlands was set during the.... 15th? year of the Civil War, and it had a sidebar in the core rulebook about African American characters. Basically it said that after the war had gone on for so long, the south had ended slavery and allowed black soldiers to serve as equals on the battlefield to help it fill the ranks. After years of this, everyone treated blacks as equals. It also said this was kind of idealistic and dumb, but slavery and racism was horrible and unfun so in their game it was all mostly over, shut up, go fight zombies. Deadlands is a bad example because there's a difference between "you can be a lady knight even if the middle ages were lovely" and Confederate apologia (intentional or not).
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When it comes to 'women in the middle ages' rpgs, you can solve all issues by just asking the player how they want that to play out. 'Do you want people to bring attention to it or nah' Id wager most people who play female characters dont want to be constantly reminded that theyre a historical anomoly by npcs and just want to play a female knight.
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This reminds me about a very good post made by GutterOwl in the Board Games thread about the representation of women in board games and how one should never settle for monolithic depictions of history. We were talking about Through the Ages and how it basically only depicts men in its cards, with the only exception being Joan de Arc. You even get Sid Meier!quote:Dependent on time, place, and context actually.
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:When it comes to 'women in the middle ages' rpgs, you can solve all issues by just asking the player how they want that to play out. 'Do you want people to bring attention to it or nah' The only time it seemed fun was in the Bretonnia book for Warhammer Fantasy, where women dressing up as men and becoming amazing knights was so common that nobody noticed unless special attention was made by the PC themselves to draw attention to it.
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And if they were outed, they'd go on a badass penitent quest, be forgiven, and then it would never be an issue again.
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In Weapons of the Gods/Legends of the Wulin, there is a specific disadvantage to denote that your character suffers from the social problems related to being a woman in medieval China. Notably, the text says you aren't compelled to take this, and there's no reason you can't have one heroine struggling with not being respected and being pressured to marry while, in the same party, another heroine is running around completely ignorant of all that and probably is waist-deep in blood and axes.
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Well, no. The question being answered was "any advice for making tabletop RPG campaigns feel inclusive to all races/genders/sexualities when playing in a real(ish)-world historical setting?" Yes, this is also a very good and true point. I certainly didn't mean to suggest that randomly slapping bigotry into a game and going "but historical accuracy" is in any way a good idea.
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Warthur posted:Take a practical example of this: I'm co-running a LARP campaign set during the Anarchy, the 12th Century civil war in the UK between King Stephen and Empress Matilda. We cannot ignore historical attitudes to gender in this game: if we did, then we make a complete mockery of the very political situation we want to examine because Matilda's gender was a big part of what gave Stephen the opportunity to usurp her and drove the whole conflict. Oh sup, I always figured you were a goon.
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Whybird posted:Oh sup, I always figured you were a goon. OURPGSOC represent 
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Whybird posted:Oh sup, I always figured you were a goon. That’s a terrible thing to assume about somebody
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thetoughestbean posted:That’s a terrible thing to assume about somebody Yeah, super harsh.
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I've been trawling youtube for animation to watch before going to sleep and I've found three channels that have D&D animated stories. Zee Bashew. The goblins that stole a deck of many things (D&D5e) is a good start. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8blPWVfzrI Other than the occasional D&D story, Zee produces the Animated Spellbook, where he analyzes one D&D 5ed spell in about 2 minutes of detail. Entertaining and useful. Puffin Forest. Start with D&D Story: Terror Of The Deep! (module SPOILERS!). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSqYeQHJbn0 Most of his medium form D&D story animations are similar, so if you like this one, you are in luck! Dingo Doodles A five part ongoing story about D&D shenanigans and the dangers of wild magic. Good artwork. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-1WJtuzPg
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Hi I made a monster generator, "Humblebird's Infinite Monsters." It cranks out weird beasties like this:Escort Mission posted:Ended up with a celestial radiation suit made of roots and vines that protects people because it doesn't want them to go through the same pain that it went through when it died. It can emit an air raid siren noise that alerts other suits that more people are in danger and they will need to be protected. It is vulnerable to being stabbed and punctured because, duh its a suit. If you like coming up with monsters just for the hell of coming up with monsters, it's probably got some ideas you wouldn't have come up with on your own (like monsters inhabiting comfort-care locations). If you're coming up with monsters for some specific purpose, like D&D encounters, it'll help flesh them out with personalities and things to do in and out of combat. I hope people enjoy it!
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Absolutely picking that up because your city generator was dope as gently caress.
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This would be perfect for my GM, who is nuts for detailed monster ecologies in her dungeons. Thanks.
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Kevin Siembieda posted:Hammering out the final agreement to allow the writing of several Rifts® LitRPG novels. The author is pumped up and expects to have the first novel available by summer or fall. He’s already outlined the first three books in the series.
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I'm normally against victim-blaming, but eveyone in the whole world knows what that author is in for and he went and did it anyway.
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I don't! All the Rifts scandal I know is that Siembieda printed everything on a mimeograph machine and refused to change his workflow after it was decades behind the curve.
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Rifts LitRPG is the most on-trend thing Palladium has done in years. It's going to be awful and that poor author is in for a war hell ride, but I'm still surprised Siembieda noticed a market trend and acted on it.
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Mystic Mongol posted:I don't! All the Rifts scandal I know is that Siembieda printed everything on a mimeograph machine and refused to change his workflow after it was decades behind the curve. Kevin is notorious for taking over and rewriting the work of freelancers, and for generally being a lovely boss and impossible to work with when it comes to RIFTS (TM)
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Oh god drat it, I keep mentally switching letters every time I read RIFTS LitRPG and keep thinking that Kevin S. has reached out to slap to force him to make a LIFTS series/steal it.
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Mystic Mongol posted:I don't! All the Rifts scandal I know is that Siembieda printed everything on a mimeograph machine and refused to change his workflow after it was decades behind the curve. He's always a few steps behind the times, yeah. Like BinaryDoubts said, he's prone to taking over projects, then when they don't work out he deflects and distracts to absolve himself of any blame. If you want an example of a recent flaming trash fire, there was the Robotech RPG Tatics kickstarter: https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/2/17071612/robotech-rpg-tactics-kickstarter-disaster-palladium-books He's got some other quirks, too, like making sure to put a bizarre Michael Jackson Thriller-style  WARNING: SUPERNATURAL CONTENT thing on RIFTs books for decades after the black magic scare died off. He's very aggressive with protecting Palladium IP stuff, which you can see in various kickstarter posts where he feels the need to attach © to stuff constantly, and he used to send c/d stuff to many RIFTs/Palladium fansites. Palladium's publication history in pretty much a long and well-documented timeline of a company achieving some moderate success, which was gradually squandered over the decades as Kevin exploited and alienated anyone who worked closely with him, and generally had difficulty adapting or growing to changing times and tastes. Someone can probably link that old RPGnet post about what working under Kevin was like, but just imagine the worst kind of controlling boss that would give vague directions, never be satisfied with the products, take the projects over even though he had numerous other projects to work on, and then wash his hands of any blame when the final products sucked rear end.e- Oh yeah, and then there was the time the sales manager embezzled somewhere between $800,000 to $1.3 million from the company, which didn't help at all with Kevin's trust issues. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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I always thought the entirety of Palladium's business history was encapsulated by the fact that when Kevin finally broke down and allowed someone to make a computer game set in the Rifts(TM)(C)(R) universe, the platform he chose was...the Nokia N-Gage
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Hostile V posted:Oh god drat it, I keep mentally switching letters every time I read RIFTS LitRPG and keep thinking that Kevin S. has reached out to slap to force him to make a LIFTS series/steal it. I keep thinking this too.
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I feel dumb asking, but is RIFTS LitRPG an abbreviation for RIFTS RPG literature, RIFTS lite, or something totally else?
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moths posted:I feel dumb asking, but is RIFTS LitRPG an abbreviation for RIFTS RPG literature, RIFTS lite, or something totally else? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LitRPG
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And yes, this is an actual thing now.
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That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. E: It's seriously like wikipedia just declared tumblr a literary genre. I cannot suspend enough disbelief to buy that "Harry Potter and the Natural 20" isn't a parody of fan fiction - but in my heart I know that fandom will always find a way. moths fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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moths posted:That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. , moths exclaimed, rolling a 12 on creative writing.
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