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I always got the sense that the ritual wasn't exactly top secret at all costs, but more something that the Chantry might be willing to turn a blind eye to or just not ask too many questions about. Where the real threat wouldn't be someone randomly spilling the beans (which could easily be covered up with "we recruit criminals and liars", "this person was bitten by a Darkspawn and is already dying from the Blight", etc.), but the truth becoming widespread enough for popular support to force the Chantry into taking action against the Wardens. e: ugh, beaten. 
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Given that the Chantry creates Seekers through some weird quasi-abomination stuff, they aren't above using dangerous magic if it furthers their agenda.
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Mar 5, 2019 00:54
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Oh dear me posted:Yes, I'm not saying every farmer knows, I'm saying the Chantry hierarchy does, and is willing to turn a blind eye. They have scholars, they would be interested, and all they'd have to do is bribe a warden. People just tend to be uninterested in the whys and hows of any discipline outside their own. I work at a university with a large endowment, and if you told me the entire development staff drinks baby blood in some arcane ritual to elicit more donations from alumni I'd probably go "oh yeah, that's nice, that's nice" while going back to my normal job of teaching kids how to use Google. It's human nature.
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Mar 5, 2019 00:55
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Harrowmont vs Bhelen is why I prefer Obsidian to BioWare. I should get to shank both of them, put their heads on pikes, and put a golem in charge of dwarven society.
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Mar 5, 2019 03:44
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Telling carradin to atone for his sins by leading the dwarves to a new prosperity instead of tossing himself in the lava would have been great. Especially since that would mean shanking bhelen and making harrowmont sad.
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Mar 5, 2019 04:02
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There was a prime opportunity to abolish the monarchy during the Landsmeet but no one thought of it because the monarchists are the good guys in the story.
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Mar 5, 2019 04:09
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I think it was more the fact that you were there to try and win their support, so leading your pitch of "hey, can I please borrow your armies to stop the literal apocalypse?" with "what if we took away your all of your privileges and riches?" would've been... counterproductive. Though with that being said, my Dalish Elf absolutely would've burned the whole place to the ground. 
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Mar 5, 2019 04:17
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ditty bout my clitty posted:Cole is terrible Cole is terrible. His baseline Pinocchio story is fine and inoffensive, but his shtick of unambiguously vocalizing all the subtext is lazy and dumb. The only entertaining part is watching the other characters react to the 4th Wall breaks.
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Mar 5, 2019 04:36
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the subtext is often pretty rich and ambiguous. it's still not really clear what he and solas see in sera and why she reacts so violently to their attention for example.
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Mar 5, 2019 04:40
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Promethium posted:There was a prime opportunity to abolish the monarchy during the Landsmeet but no one thought of it because the monarchists are the good guys in the story. Just in the story?
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Mar 5, 2019 05:02
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Zane posted:the subtext is often pretty rich and ambiguous. it's still not really clear what he and solas see in sera and why she reacts so violently to their attention for example. It's probably because Cole's "pranks" around Skyhold are done to make people happy, like burning turnips to make it smell like turnip stew, unlike Sera's. gently caress Sera, she's the worst.
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Mar 5, 2019 06:28
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I really liked Cole’s character in the book “Asunder.” In fact if anyone is a fan of Cole, they should read that book.
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Mar 5, 2019 06:34
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Cole's dialogue is so awful in Inquisition and delivered in the most "actor reading lines from a script" way I've ever heard. He sucks because we're meant to take what he's seeing as really deep and interesting, but it all comes out like some magnetic poetry bullshit I wrote in 10th grade.
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Mar 5, 2019 10:24
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I assume it’s pretty rare in industry for voice actors to be gathered in a room to record all their lines as a unit. Is it common practice, though, to give later actors the lines performed by actors who recorded earlier? Or are they just speaking into the void and audio directors hope the lines work well against each other?
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Mar 5, 2019 10:49
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Grundulum posted:I assume it’s pretty rare in industry for voice actors to be gathered in a room to record all their lines as a unit. Is it common practice, though, to give later actors the lines performed by actors who recorded earlier? Or are they just speaking into the void and audio directors hope the lines work well against each other? IIRC that's something that BioWare specifically did in Mass Effect, so voice actors had some context to react to each other.
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Mar 5, 2019 10:52
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Bogus Adventure posted:gently caress Sera’s main writer, Oh, Lukas Kristjanson wrote for Jahiera in Baldur’s Gate and Aveline in DA too? And all of Leliana’s Song? What a surprise. He’s terrible at writing women, although his handling of Jacob Taylor in ME2 could have gone better. I genuinely hope they don’t let him write for Maevaris Tilani, who I very much want in DA4 but am afraid the writers will screw her up big time.
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Mar 5, 2019 13:49
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Generic American posted:I think it was more the fact that you were there to try and win their support, so leading your pitch of "hey, can I please borrow your armies to stop the literal apocalypse?" with "what if we took away your all of your privileges and riches?" would've been... counterproductive. Yeah, the good/bad decisions were pretty obvious in the context, but who would want to turn down a werewolf army no matter the alternative?
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Mar 5, 2019 16:18
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Oh, Lukas Kristjanson wrote for Jahiera in Baldur’s Gate and Aveline in DA too? And all of Leliana’s Song? What a surprise. He’s terrible at writing women Not just women. He wrote Liam Kosta in Andromeda, who is male Sera without her redeeming qualities. I had to look for online explanations of one of his scenes, and frankly it's still a bit of a mystery.
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Mar 5, 2019 16:58
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Oh dear me posted:Not just women. He wrote Liam Kosta in Andromeda, who is male Sera without her redeeming qualities. I had to look for online explanations of one of his scenes, and frankly it's still a bit of a mystery. crucially in Dragon Age: Inquisition you can have several levels of nuance with Sera -- you can date her, date her but break up with her, be good friends with her, be kind of neutral on her, tolerate her but dislike her, hate her, kick her out of the Inquisition, threaten to *hunt her down* after you kick her out of the Inquisition in Andromeda you can date Liam, be Liam's best friend, or be Liam's best friend who goes "oh, you!" sometimes Andromeda is a bad game
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Mar 5, 2019 17:28
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Pattonesque posted:in Andromeda you can date Liam, be Liam's best friend, or be Liam's best friend who goes "oh, you!" sometimes Absolutely. Especially since you should have been able to sling the little poo poo into the brig as a war criminal right at the start.
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Mar 5, 2019 18:09
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exquisite tea posted:Cole's dialogue is so awful in Inquisition and delivered in the most "actor reading lines from a script" way I've ever heard. He sucks because we're meant to take what he's seeing as really deep and interesting, but it all comes out like some magnetic poetry bullshit I wrote in 10th grade. It's weird because his actor is really good, he's genuinely scary in Happy Valley (a good show). You really wouldn't recognise him by his voice though. Completely different.
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Mar 5, 2019 18:13
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I can’t even remember what Liam did that was bad
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Mar 5, 2019 18:13
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Ainsley McTree posted:I can’t even remember what Liam did that was bad IIRC he pumps a few rounds into a dead body after the very first firefight also in his loyalty mission he fuckin GIVES UP THE NEXUS' LOCATION IN DATA to some random angara (who then goes missing) in exchange for ... something? dude makes bad decisions all the time
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Mar 5, 2019 18:24
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Liam is fine??? Comparing him to Sera is weird. He makes mistakes but everyone makes mistakes in that game. I don't even think telling his contact how to find the Nexus is even a big deal at the end of the day, the Nexus isn't gonna stay hidden forever given how many people know about it. Cole's interactions with Solas are good. Fangz fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Mar 5, 2019 |
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Oh, Lukas Kristjanson wrote for Jahiera in Baldur’s Gate and Aveline in DA too? And all of Leliana’s Song? What a surprise. He’s terrible at writing women
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Mar 5, 2019 18:43
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Ainsley McTree posted:I can’t even remember what Liam did that was bad You go to someone else's planet, see a stranger approach your colleague, remind Liam that the rules of first contact prohibit a shoot first policy, and Liam promptly shoots the stranger anyway. The stranger turns out to belong to a species of cartoon villains, so no one minds, but Liam didn't know that. E: I said male Sera simply because he has her annoying telegraphic speech style, but come to think of it she starts off your acquaintance with a murder as well. Oh dear me fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Mar 5, 2019 |
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Mar 5, 2019 18:46
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I mean, they were very ugly aliens, completely disfigured
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Mar 5, 2019 18:48
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Fangz posted:Liam is fine??? Comparing him to Sera is weird. He makes mistakes but everyone makes mistakes in that game. well I mean that's not really his decision to make and it's not so much that Liam is bad, it's that your options of interacting with him as a character lack nuance. I wouldn't tell him to gently caress off but having the option to do so is important
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:I genuinely hope they don’t let him write for Maevaris Tilani, who I very much want in DA4 but am afraid the writers will screw her up big time. I liked Krem and how he was written for the most part, with the exception of the clunky-rear end binder joke (the conversation following it is fine if a bit awkward, imo). I really hope they do a good job with Maevaris, since I def want to see her in the game.
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Stroop There It Is posted:saaaame I remember an interview with the guy who wrote krem, and he said he wrote a draft of it, then had the bright idea to run it by some actual trans people, who then offered some constructive and enthusiastic notes which resulted in the character we got in the live game. Sounds like otherwise it could have been another hainly “hi i used to be Steve” situation
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Mar 5, 2019 19:38
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I would have enjoyed Mass Effect Andromeda a lot more if you were allowed to enforce chain of command and professionalism on your ship whenever one of your underlings spoke out of turn.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Oh, Lukas Kristjanson wrote for Jahiera in Baldur’s Gate and Aveline in DA too? And all of Leliana’s Song? What a surprise. He’s terrible at writing women, although his handling of Jacob Taylor in ME2 could have gone better. I'm kind of meh on Jaheira, but Aveline loving owns. That being said, Sera is a twee poo poo, and Jacob is the most milquetoast and banal character ever written. He's nice, but he has zero charisma or personality. His VA tries, but he gets nothing to work with.
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Mar 5, 2019 20:13
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I really assumed he was going to be the game’s Jenkins and die in the prologue
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I actually liked Jacob for being the one sane person on this ship of idiots. Then Bioware went and made the one romance option who cheats on you in any of their main line games the black dude.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Jacob is the most milquetoast and banal character ever written. He's nice, but he has zero charisma or personality. His VA tries, but he gets nothing to work with. He's not nice. Admittedly Femshep herself can't speak to him without sexually harassing him in the most cringeworthy way, but even if he likes that he basically complains if you try to talk to him at all. First it's "I'm not keen on these talks, Shapard", then it's "we've got a good thing, let's not spoil it by attempts at communication".
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Cythereal posted:I actually liked Jacob for being the one sane person on this ship of idiots. They were on a break!
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Bogus Adventure posted:I'm kind of meh on Jaheira, but Aveline loving owns. That being said, Sera is a twee poo poo, and Jacob is the most milquetoast and banal character ever written. He's nice, but he has zero charisma or personality. His VA tries, but he gets nothing to work with. Aveline is one of the best party members in the series.
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Oh dear me posted:He's not nice. Admittedly Femshep herself can't speak to him without sexually harassing him in the most cringeworthy way, but even if he likes that he basically complains if you try to talk to him at all. First it's "I'm not keen on these talks, Shapard", then it's "we've got a good thing, let's not spoil it by attempts at communication". I've only ever played maleShep, so I never saw that part of the game. Ugh, Bioware romances can be the loving worst.  Nichael posted:Aveline is one of the best party members in the series. 
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I would have liked to jettison most of my crew in Andromeda. If I got the option it'd probably just be me and that Krogan taking on the galaxy on our own
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I started off liking Jacob and was confused why everyone else hated him. Then I started collecting party members and forgot he existed. He's just so....normal on a ship full of dysfunction. Normal is bad. ME2 is beloved because it is about recruiting a badass crew of assassins and mad scientists and lab experiments. "Mildly conflicted mild-mannered soldier guy" does not stand out. My Femshep wanted to romance Miranda and Jack but of course they are male exclusive. Bullshit. I even head a rumor Miranda was supposed to be bisexual but they cut it. ME does same sex relationships way worse than DA does for some reason.
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