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| Joe "the liberal who fights busing" Biden |
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27 | 1.40% |
| Bernie "please don't die" Sanders |
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1017 | 52.69% |
| Cory "charter schools" Booker |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Kirsten "wall street" Gillibrand |
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24 | 1.24% |
| Kamala "truancy queen" Harris |
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59 | 3.06% |
| Julian "who?" Castro |
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7 | 0.36% |
| Tulsi "gay panic" Gabbard |
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25 | 1.30% |
| Michael "crimes crimes crimes" Avenatti |
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22 | 1.14% |
| Sherrod "discount bernie" Brown |
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21 | 1.09% |
| Amy "horrible boss" Klobuchar |
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12 | 0.62% |
| Tammy "stands for america" Duckworth |
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48 | 2.49% |
| Beto "whataburger" O'Rourke |
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32 | 1.66% |
| Elizabeth "instagram beer" Warren |
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284 | 14.72% |
| Tom "impeach please" Steyer |
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4 | 0.21% |
| Michael "soda is the devil" Bloomberg |
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9 | 0.47% |
| Joseph Stalin |
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287 | 14.87% |
| Howard "coffee republican" Schultz |
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10 | 0.52% |
Jay "nobody cares about climate change  " Inslee |
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13 | 0.67% |
| Pete "gently caress the homeless" Butt Man |
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17 | 0.88% |
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VitalSigns posted:Wtf he was already calling Obama a Kenyan Muslim who sneaked into the belly of a white lady in Kenyatown Kenya. fair point and so what on the Harris thing
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Yeah, i don't know whether the donations will matter, but the idea that Trump only became full on racist recently is bullshit by people trying to excuse the cozy relationship some establishment people had with him. The newspaper ad for the central park five was in 1989. The discriminatory renting stuff was in the 70s. That he still felt so at home with Democrats speaks to the rot at the core of the establishment.
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Mar 5, 2019 01:39
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joepinetree posted:Yeah, i don't know whether the donations will matter, but the idea that Trump only became full on racist recently is bullshit by people trying to excuse the cozy relationship some establishment people had with him. The newspaper ad for the central park five was in 1989. The discriminatory renting stuff was in the 70s. That he still felt so at home with Democrats speaks to the rot at the core of the establishment. imo it speaks more to him still desperately wanting the NY uber-rich crowd to accept him and they're all nominally left-wing, he'd have donated to Bernie Sanders and Zombie Eugene Debs if they were in vogue I guess you could argue that that identification is the reason Dems are Bad so it just moves the assertion over a notch
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Mar 5, 2019 01:44
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GreyjoyBastard posted:it was in 2013 and 2014 when she was a non-candidate and Donald hadn't gone full open fash yet 2013 and 2014 was well into Trump's "The black president is a lying foreign usurper and i will prove it" phase
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Mar 5, 2019 01:46
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Gripweed posted:2013 and 2014 was well into Trump's "The black president is a lying foreign usurper and i will prove it" phase yep I forgot that part of his timeline and it's not a pedantic hill I'm willing to die on
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Mar 5, 2019 01:47
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It seems to be a lot of nothing. It was less than $10k and all she has to say if the question comes up is that she wasn't immediately aware of his donation and that she donated the money he gave her campaign to charity. There's unlikely to be a follow-up question on the subject after that.
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Mar 5, 2019 01:51
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Wicked Them Beats posted:It seems to be a lot of nothing. It was less than $10k and all she has to say if the question comes up is that she wasn't immediately aware of his donation and that she donated the money he gave her campaign to charity. There's unlikely to be a follow-up question on the subject after that. Possibly, but it also seems like something that her competitors could make into something.
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Mar 5, 2019 02:17
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It would be a good way to draw a distinction between her and other candidates who have not accepted money from Donald Trump
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Mar 5, 2019 02:20
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Finally, a Trump scandal with actual consequences.
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Mar 5, 2019 02:22
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Majorian posted:Possibly, but it also seems like something that her competitors could make into something. Idk, this feels like one where she's got the answer ready to go. quote:A spokesman for the Harris campaign told the Bee that Harris donated the $6,000 she received from President Trump to a nonprofit that advocates for the rights of Central Americans. Also there's like 150 bigger and more damning things to attack Harris on. If anything, it's an attack on Trump in the general ("If I'm so bad, why did you donate to me?")
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Mar 5, 2019 02:25
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"I didn't know he donated and I donated it to charity when I found out" is a fine answer, "I didn't know he was racist" would not be
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Mar 5, 2019 02:26
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Well her campaign slogan was "Stronger Together" The signs were all "I'm With Her." Or was it "I'm Wither". Confusing. (note: quite possibly the worse messaging of any campaign I can remember, and I remember the Daisy Ad airing).
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Mar 5, 2019 02:36
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I was as dumb as anyone else in 2016, but there were two moments when my gut was like "Dude, she's gonna lose": apologizing for the deplorables comment, and when they actually busted out "America Is Already Great" as a slogan
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Mar 5, 2019 02:42
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Z. Autobahn posted:Also there's like 150 bigger and more damning things to attack Harris on. If anything, it's an attack on Trump in the general ("If I'm so bad, why did you donate to me?") Didn't both the Republican primary and the general election involve other candidates trying to clown Trump on that and his response was "neener neener, I'm not an immoral shitbag swamp politician, people like me buy people like you all the time"? It's not true (the moral part anyway), but it's pretty well crafted for his base.
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Mar 5, 2019 02:49
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Rappaport posted:Didn't both the Republican primary and the general election involve other candidates trying to clown Trump on that and his response was "neener neener, I'm not an immoral shitbag swamp politician, people like me buy people like you all the time"? It's not true (the moral part anyway), but it's pretty well crafted for his base. yeah, it's probably a nothingburger all around
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Mar 5, 2019 02:50
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Z. Autobahn posted:Also there's like 150 bigger and more damning things to attack Harris on. Oh, for sure, but are her fellow centrists going to attack her on those 150 bigger things, given that they largely agree with her on them? I'm not saying they necessarily will kneecap her on this, much less successfully, but I do think it's a possibility.
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Mar 5, 2019 03:00
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VideoGameVet posted:The signs were all "I'm With Her." Well despite the Bernie saying not to chant his name and the slogan "not me, us", a large amount of the signs say just "Bernie".  Campaigns have slogans and they have signs, the two are not always the same
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Mar 5, 2019 03:10
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https://twitter.com/peterjgowan/status/1102570626232057857?s=21
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Mar 5, 2019 03:55
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Z. Autobahn posted:Also there's like 150 bigger and more damning things to attack Harris on. If anything, it's an attack on Trump in the general ("If I'm so bad, why did you donate to me?") https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb Always a good time to post this when anyone mentions Harris. She's a complete sociopath.
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Mar 5, 2019 04:15
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https://twitter.com/JeffMerkley/status/1102768260309647360
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Mar 5, 2019 04:26
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Merkley isn't a centrist. This is bad for Bernie. Why do they do these small name politicians do this? They can't win.
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Mar 5, 2019 04:28
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I think he's up for reelection in 2020; maybe he's announcing his retirement? One can hope. (I mean, I'm not hoping he retires, because he's awesome, I just don't want him to run for president)
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Mar 5, 2019 04:31
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Ague Proof posted:Merkley isn't a centrist. This is bad for Bernie. increase name recognition, sell books, try to force an issue into the discussion, angling for a cabinet position, there's a bunch of reasons
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Mar 5, 2019 04:36
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Majorian posted:I think he's up for reelection in 2020; maybe he's announcing his retirement? One can hope. That's not typically the way a politician announces he's retiring. He's most definitely running.
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Mar 5, 2019 04:58
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Inslee is viable https://twitter.com/danielstrauss4/status/1102768669703188480?s=21
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Mar 5, 2019 04:58
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i can't remember, is Inslee Good or Bad?
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Mar 5, 2019 05:00
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i can't remember, is Inslee Good or Bad? Bad, but his issue is climate change.
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Mar 5, 2019 05:03
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theblackw0lf posted:Inslee is viable That is not the bar for viable
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Mar 5, 2019 05:05
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https://twitter.com/forecasterenten/status/1102697210746204160?s=21 Worst guy you know meme etc
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Mar 5, 2019 05:08
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Ague Proof posted:Bad, but his issue is climate change. Why is Inslee bad? Real question, in my mind he's the most attention on climate change of any candidate which seems good
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Mar 5, 2019 05:10
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The Kingfish posted:https://twitter.com/forecasterenten/status/1102697210746204160?s=21 Eh, I mean, it was that, but also he wasn't as divisive a figure as Hillary Clinton, he was young, he was charismatic, etc etc.
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Mar 5, 2019 05:12
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What's the equivalent of the Iraq war in this analogy?
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Mar 5, 2019 05:23
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Z. Autobahn posted:What's the equivalent of the Iraq war in this analogy? https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1102697767112183809?s=20
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Mar 5, 2019 05:25
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Yes, Harry, I, too, am blind to the surging popularity of things like M4A.
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Mar 5, 2019 05:32
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The Kingfish posted:https://twitter.com/forecasterenten/status/1102697210746204160?s=21 As was Sanders and Inslee.
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Mar 5, 2019 05:50
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The president has come out against Omar and only two presidential candidates have openly supported her. New red line.
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Mar 5, 2019 05:50
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Hey dummies https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1102753868704817152
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Mar 5, 2019 06:07
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Maybe she can finally be indicted!
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Mar 5, 2019 06:09
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Majorian posted:Yes, Harry, I, too, am blind to the surging popularity of things like M4A. I think there is a kernel of truth that in 2008 there was *one* issue with surging popularity and importance while now there are many. So its not just M4A or Climate Change or defeating white supremacy or income inequality. Its all of the above. And likewise no candidate is going to get to skate by like Obama by being the only candidate running who was on the right side of *the* issue in such a clean way. Of course, this is also like lovely post or freshman essay level analysis. I wonder how many will have to pay the spine man over this.....
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Trabisnikof posted:I wonder how many will have to pay the spine man over this..... The dearth of Hill 2020 toxxes is an immense disappointment after Bastageddon.
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