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Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
I'm personally happy with the longer episodes

I enjoy watching you two screw around in the avenger, too

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Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




I'd suggest a combination of "split the Geoscape into a separate video" and "battle videos last as long as the battle does."

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Lprsti99 posted:

Definitely don't cut out the Geoscape IMO, watching you guys make... interesting choices :flashfact::flashfact: is half the fun.
Yeah all the talking through the decisions and reasoning has been real good, there's no problems with any sort of dead air.
For coherence, I think option 1, or even Gnoman's suggestion.

FoolyCharged posted:

The WoTC lp that is going on right now is at update 44 and near the end of the game as well
If you're wondering why the thread still doesn't think you're in a death spiral, things can slip to an alarming degree but still be recoverable from in XCOM. In the other LP, the doomsday clock actually started counting down, but was then halted.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Yeah, you guys commented on feeling like you were in a death spiral, but that's just how the game is designed to feel. The devs did a really good job of making the player feel constantly under threat by constantly making them choose between mutually exclusive picks. You stop one black event but you get defeated by the other two. Combined with the perma death and the game feels very stacked against you.

But that also means that as you figure out ways to beat the odds that feel so stacked against you it feels good. Think about how many videos made you two shout bullshit, only to end with you guys high fiving over having overcome it.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





I'm in the "Don't care how long the episodes go" camp. If they go long, they go long, no problem in my book.

xxlicious
Feb 19, 2013
Yeah, I don't mind longer episodes either! Would prefer each mission to be in one video too.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


I started off already wishing the episodes were longer, but was just getting used to them being short! :cheeky:

But yeah, even though I agree now that keeping them more bite-size at first was a good idea, anyone who's watched this far is prolly invested enough now that you can start rolling out the longer episodes.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.
Count me in the bandwagon for option 1! Definitely don't cut geoscape cause it's half the fun, especially in a blind LP. You could consider cutting/skipping repeated content (like assigning equipment to soldiers) and do a small "this is what we are going in with" to shorten things down though! Also if there is a super long geoscape section, you could split it up the same way you did last time.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Yeah I’m all for longass missions. We have a pause function or we can fast forward.

Don’t get stuck editing your videos more then you have to.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


I definitely want to keep watching Geoscape stuff and I'm fine with either dividing them into X.5 episodes or rolling them into the larger videos.

Rocket Baby Dolls
Mar 3, 2006

Underneath he has a velvet, yummy tummy you wish you could just stroke and squish all day! Ahh! But on top... On top it's a whole different story... On top he is a scary stiff stabber!
I'd be happy with watching full-length videos of the missions and also watching the geoscape strategising.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.


Thanks for the feedback everyone!

We'll keep things as they are for now. I briefly did consider splitting geoscape and missions, but if we do two missions in a week we either go to two days or you just get a day of pure Geoscape and no action, which isn't what I really want to see!

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
(Spoilers for most recent update)"Why can't he see them? I don't understand."



Full cover blocks vision, half cover doesn't.


Other than that, an excellent mission so far. I think you're really starting to get the hang of XCOM tactical combat.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
I was going to say, rupture takes 3 ammo, iirc

but you noticed pretty quickly :v:

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Couple misc things to remember:

You can always sell poo poo at the black market
That throwing axe is just collecting dust back at base

StoryTime
Feb 26, 2010

Now listen to me children and I'll tell you of the legend of the Ninja
You're definitely pulling yourself out of the hole that the early game left you in! The upcoming alien facility mission is going to be pivotal, I don't think you can afford to lose that one.

I'm worried about mutons and heavy stun lancers. They haven't yet seen the muton counter-punch, and that's an easy way to lose a ranger. Mutons also carry grenades and the big boy guns, they can one shot some of the team since they won't have plated armor for the mission. Heavy stun lancers are also horrifying and they might face the double stun lancer + priest pack, which can take out a squad by itself.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

StoryTime posted:

You're definitely pulling yourself out of the hole that the early game left you in! The upcoming alien facility mission is going to be pivotal, I don't think you can afford to lose that one.

I'm worried about mutons and heavy stun lancers. They haven't yet seen the muton counter-punch, and that's an easy way to lose a ranger. Mutons also carry grenades and the big boy guns, they can one shot some of the team since they won't have plated armor for the mission. Heavy stun lancers are also horrifying and they might face the double stun lancer + priest pack, which can take out a squad by itself.

Aren't Priests from the expansion?

StoryTime
Feb 26, 2010

Now listen to me children and I'll tell you of the legend of the Ninja

Bremen posted:

Aren't Priests from the expansion?

Isn't that a Priest that they zoom in on and try to figure out in the latest video? It dies to overwatch shots before it can do anything, but it seems to have the white armor of a Priest.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

StoryTime posted:

Isn't that a Priest that they zoom in on and try to figure out in the latest video? It dies to overwatch shots before it can do anything, but it seems to have the white armor of a Priest.

I think it's a Shield bearer - which is also bad news when acting as an unknown factor. Priest are from the expansion afaik.

StoryTime
Feb 26, 2010

Now listen to me children and I'll tell you of the legend of the Ninja

That Italian Guy posted:

I think it's a Shield bearer - which is also bad news when acting as an unknown factor. Priest are from the expansion afaik.

Yeah, you guys are right. The Priest has a very distinct helmet, and that's not it. The Shieldbearer, while not really an enemy you want to see on the field, is at least more straightforward to fight against.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA

Mordja posted:

Couple misc things to remember:

You can always sell poo poo at the black market
That throwing axe is just collecting dust back at base

P sure you can't sell it.

Can someone tell me why they aren't using it? It is superior to a normal sword right?

SlightlyMad
Jun 7, 2015


Gary’s Answer
They did not even look at bluescreen protocol. :sadwave:

Aaand they are still taking shelter behind cars, the one true enemy. :supaburn:


Otherwise good, hope still lives. Those new guns should be nice to have once you make them.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Affi posted:

P sure you can't sell it.

Can someone tell me why they aren't using it? It is superior to a normal sword right?

Haha, the two things aren't related, I was just saying they should remember to equip the axe.

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

StoryTime posted:

Yeah, you guys are right.

It’s not even the first one they’ve seen! The autopsy for Shieldbearers became available after the supply mission. It’s just that it was in the great frost grenade mass murder so, as with this one, never did anything. Some day one will get a turn and the guys can see what magical surprises they hold.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
What are your guys favourite compositions to bring?

I never double down on snipers and rangers and sometimes I skip snipers because they just aren’t as good until you get serial.

Typically it’s 1 ranger 1 sniper 2 specialists and 2 grenadiers. When I get a decent psychic I skip either the healer or the sniper.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
2 psi, 2 heavy, one ranger one support. Sometimes swap out to two ranger one heavy if I'm feeling saucy

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

Affi posted:

P sure you can't sell it.

Can someone tell me why they aren't using it? It is superior to a normal sword right?

They bought the arc blade and axe at the same time, and found they didn't have enough supplies to upgrade the axe. They just got supplies again, but they had more pressing upgrades first.

Edit: Regular hunter axe does have the same damage as the arc blade, and the throwing ability is almost certainly superior to the small stun chance, but I can see not being sure of that.

I don't think this needs to be spoiled because all the numbers are there, but I'll respond in kind.

Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 6, 2019

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.
I cannot explain how much I want to see all these spoilers.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Affi posted:

What are your guys favourite compositions to bring?

I never double down on snipers and rangers and sometimes I skip snipers because they just aren’t as good until you get serial.

Typically it’s 1 ranger 1 sniper 2 specialists and 2 grenadiers. When I get a decent psychic I skip either the healer or the sniper.


tarbrush posted:

2 psi, 2 heavy, one ranger one support. Sometimes swap out to two ranger one heavy if I'm feeling saucy

What I can't understand is how few people actually use the SPARK units which are utterly awesome and prevent the need to double up on classes present in vanilla while doing their own unique thing. I mean yeah, sure, they are weaker but it's loving murderbots. And it's not like they're as much of a downgrade from soldiers as the SHIVs were in XCOM 1.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Xcom 1 Shivs were actually super strong in the expansion because it added a bunch of nifty upgrades for them. Deffo a downgrade in the base game though

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
They know that SPARKS exist, you don't have to spoiler that. Hope they get them tho. I've only actually played base-XCOM2 but I really need to play WOTC+DLC+modded to the gills one of these days. Check out this ridiculous jetpack mod!

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

Natural 20 posted:

I cannot explain how much I want to see all these spoilers.

They're not nearly as interesting as they probably look as black bars. Mostly just a bunch of questions or speculations about the latest video.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.
We know Spark units exist but we've no idea of the difficulty that Shen's last gift represents. Given how badly behind we think we are (despite reassurance to the contrary) we can't afford to risk a potentially lethal mission to get robots.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.
Nat20 you and Tea may be unaware, but Shen's comment during the Viper autopsy ("...this reptilian creature with such distinctive human features is surprisingly unsettling..." is a funny snipe/nod to the community's reaction at large when Vipers were revealed in a trailer for the game (Snakemen were an enemy in the original XCOM, but were lacking some of these...features :females:).

More details:

(more goon reactions to snake tits can be found in the Games thread, which may contains spoilers for the blind LP, so you may want to avoid it until later.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Given the general experience of the DLC thus far, yeah, I’d avoid anything from the people who made the alien rulers and called it good

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
To be honest, I just really wanted to come up with a blackened-out block of text where only the words for robots, "vanilla" and "loving" would be visible for the LPers to project meaning into.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

GeneX posted:

Given the general experience of the DLC thus far, yeah, I’d avoid anything from the people who made the alien rulers and called it good

Keep in mind, the Alien rulers DLC includes the boltcaster, the freeze grenade, the shadowkeeper pistol, and the (so far unseen) axe. The idea was that you'd have more capable soldiers but also occasionally run into powerful boss enemies.

Shen's Last Gift at least limits itself to a single mission you can run whenever you want, and while opinions on SPARKs vary it's still a new class to play with.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

That Italian Guy posted:

Nat20 you and Tea may be unaware, but Shen's comment during the Viper autopsy ("...this reptilian creature with such distinctive human features is surprisingly unsettling..." is a funny snipe/nod to the community's reaction at large when Vipers were revealed in a trailer for the game (Snakemen were an enemy in the original XCOM, but were lacking some of these...features :females:).

More details:

(more goon reactions to snake tits can be found in the Games thread, which may contains spoilers for the blind LP, so you may want to avoid it until later.

Weirded out Viper is my spirit animal / lady/alien with venom sacs.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
I have to say, I have specifically not bought the Alien Hunters DLC because I didn't want to deal with the Ruler bullshit, but having now seen the bolt caster in action I'm getting mighty tempted.

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sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

Loyal to the hEnd
The rewards you get for defeating them are pleasing and useful, but they will be a kick in the teeth at first. Nothing insurmountable.

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