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the bitcoin of weed posted:The Dispossessed is a good one for reading about a communist yelling at people he's an anarchist
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 03:46 |
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the bitcoin of weed posted:The Dispossessed is a good one for reading about a communist yelling at people i like how even in the glorious anarcho-socialist utopia academics are still petty shitheads
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 03:56 |
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an ambiguous utopia indeed
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quote:If you could make a change to anything you’ve written over the years, what would it be?
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Gunshow Poophole posted:im working through Corey Robin's The Reactionary Mind and it's pretty good so far. The biggest observation I drew from that book was about how reactionaries over time will adopt the language of the oppressed to make their position appear more palatable. I see it all the time now. snoremac has issued a correction as of 06:46 on Mar 2, 2019 |
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did someone say The New Jim Crow
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# ? Mar 2, 2019 16:29 |
Finished Wizard of Earthsea. The second half wasn't as good as the first half, dealing with the constant slog of gibberish names as Ged passes through dozens of places was a little bit too much. The ending was also telegraphed a couple chapters early. Overall a pretty decent book. The School of Roke chapter really contrasts how drawn-out and silly books like Harry Potter and the Name of the Wind are.
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# ? Mar 4, 2019 20:02 |
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hi im Tai Lopez and i love books and lamborghinis
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SKULL.GIF posted:Finished Wizard of Earthsea. The second half wasn't as good as the first half, dealing with the constant slog of gibberish names as Ged passes through dozens of places was a little bit too much. The ending was also telegraphed a couple chapters early. Overall a pretty decent book. The School of Roke chapter really contrasts how drawn-out and silly books like Harry Potter and the Name of the Wind are. potter's a fuckin cop
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SKULL.GIF posted:Two excerpts from the first half of World Made by Hand that I liked: Picked this book up after reading these excerpts. Stoked to dig into this book
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# ? Mar 5, 2019 06:52 |
I started reading the second Earthsea book, the Tombs of Atuan, and I'm a couple chapters in and it seems to be about a demon priestess who spends her time in a pitch black dungeon? Confused by this wild tonal shift after the first book.
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TheDon01 posted:Picked this book up after reading these excerpts. Stoked to dig into this book I've been meaning to write up a recap of the books now that I'd finished them but here's an impetus as good as any I guess. The series is a quartet, telling the story of a rural town in a post-collapse America over a year, one book for each season. The author was a big Peak Oil theorist (and suburbia/car culture critic, which is how I got into him) back in the day and wrote these books as mostly an exploration of what he thought the future would look like if globalism collapsed. The series is about a town in northern New York trying to put itself back together after a decade plus of malaise as people failed to adjust well to the collapse. It explores (somewhat clumsily) how different communities would organize itself given the lack of an existing national government and minimal communication between villages. In the first book the protagonist visits in turn a strongman-controlled port city, a quasi-feudal farming colony, and an anarchist commune. The writing is usually passable, but gets very clumsy when Kunstler wants to make a political point (the anarchist junktown in the first book, the race war in the South in the third book, the fake socialists and particularly the SJW caricature in the fourth book) or when he tries to do a cool scene (the totally-not-a-feudal-lord drawing his literal Hanzo steel to kill some invading bandits), and the ending in the fourth book is embarrassingly saccharine especially after the trauma he puts his characters through. I wouldn't say they're good books, but they're enjoyable if you're into rough-living and collapse stuff like I am. There's a lot of stuff that Kunstler gets wrong (his theory that the progress from feminism would be rolled back is questionable), and his status as an old white male really shows in some of the scenes and characters he writes up, particularly with the female characters, but one thing he does get right is how thoroughly we rely on globalized industry for essentially everything we use in our everyday lives. If that ever gets messed with the adjustment period is going to be really rough. It also got me thinking about how people would personally react to a collapse -- how many people would just essentially give up and fade away?
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# ? Mar 5, 2019 18:40 |
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can anyone recommend some leftwing post-apocalypse stuff? tired of this rightwing crap.
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# ? Mar 5, 2019 18:52 |
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sure, i recommend going outside
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GalacticAcid posted:sure, i recommend going outside i said post-apocalypse
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Haha. Maybe check out Dhalgren? Not sure I'd call it left wing per se but it's certainly uh...not conservative. And it's certainly post-apocalyptic.
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I recommend Star Trek
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I have a craving for a space opera but I usually find the genre to be a crapshoot. I'm thinking about reading the sequel to A Fire Upon the Deep or The Collapsing Empire by John Scalzi. I also just finished, and by finished I mean gave up on Fictitious Capital by Cedric Durand. Since it is a book about finance by a French economist I expected it to be a difficult read but I made it to the very last chapter before I decided I wasn't getting much more from it. It's not a bad book by any means and it described in good detail how in the finance world money seemingly seems to spring forth from nowhere with weird financial instruments backed by government guarantees but I think someone could have done it in a more concise way. I can't exactly recommend it.
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Can't recommend Learning Processes with a Deadly Outcome by Alexander Kluge enough to this thread. It is nominally about the human exodus into space after nuclear apocalypse, but Kluge is endlessly discursive and also very funny. Here's a sampler: There's also spacelaw, a space-Kronstadt (or perhaps space-Spithead/Nore), space-Marxism and geoengineering and more.
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# ? Mar 6, 2019 01:11 |
That reminds me, I don't know if it counts as post-apocalypse fiction, but Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy has multiple characters who are bonafide Communists and the trilogy is pretty much all about how to build a better society on Mars while fighting off poisonous capitalistic influence from Earth Strongly recommend to any fan of hard sci-fi RIP Arkady Bogdanov, a real mensch
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SKULL.GIF posted:That reminds me, I don't know if it counts as post-apocalypse fiction, but Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy has multiple characters who are bonafide Communists and the trilogy is pretty much all about how to build a better society on Mars while fighting off poisonous capitalistic influence from Earth I think this is the best sell on this series anyone has ever done
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# ? Mar 6, 2019 04:24 |
Arkady was cspam as gently caressRed Mars, Kim Stanley Robinson posted:PART 2: THE VOYAGE OUT Red Mars, Kim Stanley Robinson posted:...
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# ? Mar 6, 2019 04:34 |
I started reading The Collapsing Empire since I had an hours long bus ride this morning, and I have to say that I forgot how enjoyable it is to burn through a sci-fi book so quickly.
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# ? Mar 6, 2019 19:25 |
SKULL.GIF posted:I started reading the second Earthsea book, the Tombs of Atuan, and I'm a couple chapters in and it seems to be about a demon priestess who spends her time in a pitch black dungeon? Confused by this wild tonal shift after the first book. Got a few chapters further and now this makes a lot more sense. Got to applaud Le Guin for that cold open, it set up the middle of the book really well, just took some faith in the reader to keep going.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Got a few chapters further and now this makes a lot more sense. Got to applaud Le Guin for that cold open, it set up the middle of the book really well, just took some faith in the reader to keep going. faith in Le Guin will always be rewarded, though I'm not familiar with those books or the series Even her early stuff that is as close to schlockey as you can find that involved a lot of experimentation on her part was still extremely good, with the extremely real characters and societies that are her trademarks A good peak into her early stuff is the short story that is called both "The Dowry of the Angyar" and "Semley's Necklace", was written mid-60's but you can see a lot of the themes she later used so heavily present, both in theme and characterization and technology as it relates to her sci-fi world. It was released as the latter but is better known now by the former because it was renamed and included as an intro story to the compilation of 3 early novels she wrote, Worlds of Exile and Illusion
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# ? Mar 6, 2019 19:49 |
I managed to read all of The Collapsing Empire today, which I didn't anticipate doing. It's nothing special but sometimes you just want to read some space opera and not think too much about it
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Children of Time is on sale for $2 for the kindle version right now, it's a fun book that is extremely interestingly speculative and strange and unfortunately I can't tell you why because it'd all be spoilers
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Mycroft Holmes posted:can anyone recommend some leftwing post-apocalypse stuff? tired of this rightwing crap. moderan by david r bunch. it's leftwing as long as you realize it's satirizing what it depicts article on it here: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/an-ode-to-new-metal-man-david-bunchs-moderan/
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about halfway through Fire on the Mountain by Terry Bisson and it fuckin rules, thanks this thread for bringing my attention to it
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KFJ5LH2/ Right Ho, Jeeves! is one of the finest comedies written and is free for some reason today, check it out goons
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# ? Mar 14, 2019 16:58 |
Tombs of Atuan had a great ending, would recommend, good book Partway into the final book in the trilogy now, The Farthest Shore, and I'm pretty sure I know what's being set up here by Le Guin but am expecting to be surprised
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# ? Mar 14, 2019 17:41 |
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I'm reading The Three Body Problem Cixin Liu. I've never really read anything this sci-fi ish before, but 25% of the way through the first book, it's ok. Does it improve in the rest of the book/series, or is this kinda how it's gonna go?
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Eat This Glob posted:I'm reading The Three Body Problem Cixin Liu. I've never really read anything this sci-fi ish before, but 25% of the way through the first book, it's ok. Does it improve in the rest of the book/series, or is this kinda how it's gonna go? it gets a lot better after the first quarter or so, at least in my opinion. It gets a lot more sci-fi tho, especially if you read the follow ups
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# ? Mar 14, 2019 20:48 |
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it gets dramatically different from that point, yeah
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thanks to you both
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# ? Mar 14, 2019 21:06 |
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the pacing in that series is off the wall, sometimes it feels like it lingers on stuff that you don't normally see in sci-fi like chapters dedicated to finding the main character a girlfriend, then you'll be 50 pages past a slow part and you're so far along in the plot that you have to double check how far you've gotten It's very interesting, I wasn't sure if the differences in tone and focus compared to western sci-fi were an authorial thing or a cultural thing, and still am not
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# ? Mar 14, 2019 21:08 |
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I'm not sure if the translation is bad but the characters in the Three Body Problem series are loving AWFUL. Such bad writing. The themes and ideas are revolutionary for sci-fi and kept me reading until the last book. I recommend it for that alone.
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succ posted:I'm not sure if the translation is bad but the characters in the Three Body Problem series are loving AWFUL. Such bad writing. I long ago innoculated myself to this by reading through all of the robots - empire - foundation arc from Asimov
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Epic High Five posted:the pacing in that series is off the wall, sometimes it feels like it lingers on stuff that you don't normally see in sci-fi like chapters dedicated to finding the main character a girlfriend, then you'll be 50 pages past a slow part and you're so far along in the plot that you have to double check how far you've gotten no lie on that poo poo. i rolled the dice having read a thing for work about china's response to SETI and they interviewed the author. being a giant nerd who is into more non-fiction than any sci-fi, I thought I'd give the book a try based on it having a start in the cultural revolution.
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