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Asema posted:For the majority of people. And again, that has the same pitfalls. You're assuming one tact works better than the other if it's 2nd hand. I always assume I'm arguing for the people reading, because nobody ever admits they're wrong on the internet. You aren't going to either. Neither am I.
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Catalyst-proof posted:No where is the Great Depression mentioned in the article. It is never mentioned.  This is so loving tedious (and many posters in this thread and elsewhere will tell you that I'm an expert on tedious). Did you read the article or did you just search for "Great Depression", see no hits, and think "heh, gotcha"? No, he didn't literally say the words "Great Depression". Yes, he was talking about the Great Depression. Yes, he did actually say that it was just a minor recession until FDR started the New Deal and then it became the Depression we're familiar with. In this case, even though the headline is not a direct quote, it actually does accurately summarize what the man said.
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Crackbone posted:Colbert defended Tucker? Gross. Colbert is ultimately a defender of the status quo and of his own privilege. He wants a "return to decency" I'm sure from the Republicans, but he fails to understand Republicans haven't been decent for at least a generation, they've simply been as publicly hideous as they could get away with. And he's a winner in the current system, rich, famous, get's to do and say basically what he wants. Why would you expect him to challenge the fundamental order which elevated him? He'd have to admit he was given unfair advantages and luck played a huge role in his life. Don't get me wrong he's funny and talented but he's the product of the system.
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Unzip and Attack posted:
I don’t think the world has given them a choice. That’s not a dig at POC, it’s an indictment of society. Doing anything other than forgiving and walking away usually ended with jail or death.
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Inhofe, a US senator from Oklahoma wants to vote to block the emergency declaration. He could use some supportive phone calls. He’s talked to two newspapers in the last two days floating voting to block the “emergency”. Oklahoma needs emergency declarations to be a functional thing due to our weather and if Trump rams thru this “emergency” there’s a good chance that emergency declarations will get neutered in the future. States with Weather need quick funding when poo poo hits the fan. Inhofe’s staff is surprisingly nice. Give him a ring if you got a spare 5 minutes.
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Jaxyon posted:And again, that has the same pitfalls. You're assuming one tact works better than the other if it's 2nd hand. I will gladly admit that I am wrong if you actually understood that I'm not talking about the highlander argument where that can only be one but you do you dude 
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Silver Nitrate posted:Inhofe, a US senator from Oklahoma wants to vote to block the emergency declaration. He could use some supportive phone calls. wait, the "global warming isn't happening because there is a snow" guy has turned on Trump's declaration?
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So much free rent that AOC should push to have them registered as lobbyists
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Discendo Vox posted:He's absolutely being fired or forced out- he denied any resignation plans very recently and had been actively hiring senior staff. That's an excellent article btw- very evenhanded on his accomplishments, though it significantly undersells him in a number of ways. I dunno, Bridgeport/Stamford CT to DC is a nasty commute (4 hrs via Acela) and being away from your spouse and 5/9 yr old kids all week would be really rough. I could see him having a "wait, why am I doing this?" moment after a bad week or missing some important childhood milestone.
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Mar 5, 2019 21:49
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Unzip and Attack posted:IMO there is no group in the world as moral as American POC. Their collective patience, goodness, and capacity for forgiveness is astounding. Seems like weird fetishization tbh I know black and brown women love it when we collectively claim they're our only hope, thereby absolving ourselves and our communities of moral agency
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Deified Data posted:Seems like weird fetishization tbh Lmao
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Failed Imagineer posted:How could you resist the urge to sneeze right into his head Or crop dust him at the very least.
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Deified Data posted:Seems like weird fetishization tbh Yeah, it's super weird when people try to make American Exceptionalism "woke". Acting like America is the single greatest at anything - including oppressing a people group, or even those people's response to that oppression - just means you don't know much about the rest of the world.
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Mar 5, 2019 21:52
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Asema posted:I will gladly admit that I am wrong if you actually understood that I'm not talking about the highlander argument where that can only be one but you do you dude If you're not making GBS threads on the effectiveness of shaming/yelling people then we good.
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Mar 5, 2019 21:52
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We are the best at gridiron football
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theflyingorc posted:Acting like America is the single greatest at anything - including oppressing a people group, or even those people's response to that oppression - just means you don't know much about the rest of the world. 
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Mar 5, 2019 21:53
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:We are the best at gridiron football Australian rules?
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Mar 5, 2019 21:54
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What the gently caress is this about AOC stealing $1 million. Only sources so far are Fox News and Breitbart. I can't keep up with these conspiracy theories.
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Jaxyon posted:If you're not making GBS threads on the effectiveness of shaming/yelling people then we good. I think it's not the best approach to start with it, but at the same time understand that some situations and numerous different type of contexts call for skipping right to it when appropriate. To be fair to myself, I'm about done with being nice to anybody who identifies as a Centrist and even further done to those right of that. I'm sick of all this loving information being available and being willfully ignorant isn't seen as the bad thing it should be. I'm glad that I'm independent enough and have escaped living in the South to where I've actively cut my family out of my life since the 2016 election but again not everybody can do that 
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theflyingorc posted:wait, the "global warming isn't happening because there is a snow" guy has turned on Trump's declaration? Ha, called it! Beyond what was already said, Inhoffe is also the chair of the Armed Services Committee. And given his other moral flexibility, it's basically guaranteed that he's beholden to interests that will get hosed by a reallocation of the MIC grift. It's why he was previously trying to get Trump to commit to just using US Army Corps of Engineers funds.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:We are the best at gridiron football Slow helmet rugby
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https://twitter.com/jeremyherb/status/1103027752192610305 Lindsay Graham has given out some spectacularly bad advice recently.
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theflyingorc posted:What he said is absolutely dumb - but it isn't the clever "FDR CAN TIME TRAVEL" joke, it's just a stupid argument, and like 4 people have made the same joke, dropping a sick burn on a thing he didn't say, and that's really annoying! Sure. Sad part is, as unbelievable as the headline is on its face (in otherwise normal times) I don’t immediately dismiss even that stupid of a claim. First thought in my head is “oh god did they actually say that” so I can’t blame people for believing this stupid poo poo. But I hate people making up their own reality to make others look bad as well, so I get it.
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F. Lobot posted:What the gently caress is this about AOC stealing $1 million. Only sources so far are Fox News and Breitbart. I can't keep up with these conspiracy theories. https://twitter.com/mikandynothem/status/1102936448796250114 That seems pretty cut and dry. She's goin' to jail!!!
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Discendo Vox posted:what Yeah, this was my reading and I came here to get your take on it. Vape lobby finally got across to the right people.
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Insanite posted:https://twitter.com/mikandynothem/status/1102936448796250114 how incredibly loving racist to use Desi Arnez's catchphrase just because she's Latina
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theflyingorc posted:wait, the "global warming isn't happening because there is a snow" guy has turned on Trump's declaration? Tornadoes loving suck.
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theflyingorc posted:The text of this headline is not in the quote quote:"LARRY ELDER (RADIO TALK SHOW HOST): [Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex (D-NY) doesn't have] any real understanding about how bad the original New Deal was. As I started to say a moment ago, an economist named Lee Ohanian, he teaches at UCLA, he has probably done more work on the impact of the New Deal than anybody else -- the New Deal that FDR did. And he says it deepened and lengthened the recession. It was a severe recession, the New Deal turned into a depression. And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Democrats who are using this expression, apparently have no real idea of what the old New Deal did. And then of course, there's the issue of cost. Once you start putting polls together and ask people about costs for the Green New Deal, support for it goes down dramatically. " What ~the gently caress~ do you think he was talking about, my dude?
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F. Lobot posted:What the gently caress is this about AOC stealing $1 million. Only sources so far are Fox News and Breitbart. I can't keep up with these conspiracy theories. Almost the entirety of Fox’ homepage is AOC and all of it is unsubstantiated nonsense.
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If it's hated enough in the Senate to flip assholes like Inhoffe, I continue to suspect that, particularly if McConnell is allowing a straight vote, there's a modest chance there's veto proof numbers coming out of the Senate vote. Probably doesn't change the final numbers in the House, but it may well change the calculus for individual reps. And Trump's trying to pilfer too much cash to keep the damage to just blue districts, even if they're together enough to be thinking that direction.
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luxury handset posted:the great depression started in 1929, but it bottomed out in 1933ish, with another little dip in 1937. so it's not entirely a dumb argument on the basis of causality alone How is that not a dumb argument on the basis of causality alone? He was inaugurated in March 1933
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Insanite posted:https://twitter.com/mikandynothem/status/1102936448796250114 Oh boy, how's Lucy gonna get herself outta this one!
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Catalyst-proof posted:Yeah. I kind of wish this forum of all places wouldn't fall victim to Just-Read-The-Headlines-itis. He said FDR caused a recession, then a depression. Of course I still reserve the right to presume he's speaking out of his rear end until I do my own homework, but there's no reason to post every little titillating tweet in here. He said "the impact of the New Deal... it deepened and lengthened the recession. It was a severe recession, the New Deal turned into a depression." He's specifically, hilariously, talking about the efforts of FDR's New Deal turning what was just a recession into a depression, and lengthening it. It's a common bullshit trope in conservative circles to destroy the legacy of FDR. They repeat this bullshit all the time. edit: And yes, he means the Great Depression. Catalyst-proof posted:No where is the Great Depression mentioned in the article. It is never mentioned. It's not an article, it's an interview transcript and video on Media Matters, and the subject matter of the speaker is CLEARLY "The New Deal and the Great Depression". Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Mar 5, 2019 |
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eviltastic posted:Beyond what was already said, Inhoffe is also the chair of the Armed Services Committee. And given his other moral flexibility, it's basically guaranteed that he's beholden to interests that will get hosed by a reallocation of the MIC grift. e: lol misread https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1102999537042509824 Looks like I was wrong. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Mar 5, 2019 |
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HootTheOwl posted:SO she gets to sue them when this ends up being slander or whatever, right? Because this is hell world, I've already devoted a bit of my psyche to riding out the disappointment if it's true.
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Insanite posted:Because this is hell world, I've already devoted a bit of my psyche to riding out the disappointment if it's true. Who is this guy breaking this "breaking news"?
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skylined! posted:Almost the entirety of Fox’ homepage is AOC and all of it is unsubstantiated nonsense. Is an FEC complaint just something anybody's uncle can file? Fox News usually has the decency to grossly misrepresent something that they didn't 100% make up.
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