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Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

WHAT

eviltastic posted:

If it's hated enough in the Senate to flip assholes like Inhoffe, I continue to suspect that, particularly if McConnell is allowing a straight vote, there's a modest chance there's veto proof numbers coming out of the Senate vote. Probably doesn't change the final numbers in the House, but it may well change the calculus for individual reps. And Trump's trying to pilfer too much cash to keep the damage to just blue districts, even if they're together enough to be thinking that direction.

I think every senator has an interest in maintaining the ability of a president to declare emergencies during natural disasters.

Using this vital and life saving measure we have for political points risks the ability of presidents to declare an emergency when it’s actually needed.

I’ve been calling gulf state Republican Senators all day. Can you tell lol

E

eviltastic posted:

Looks like that's it and he's a committed 'no'. Unless anyone thinks this is actually a principled stance:
https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1102999537042509824

It’s being floated in local newspapers by his office. There’s no need to do that unless he wanted public input. He doesn’t really show up in the papers otherwise. He’s like a ghost senator. I don’t even know if he campaigns tbh

E2

This is what I get for reading the paper in the afternoon. Damnit

Silver Nitrate fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Mar 5, 2019

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Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

F. Lobot posted:

What the gently caress is this about AOC stealing $1 million. Only sources so far are Fox News and Breitbart. I can't keep up with these conspiracy theories.

We regret to inform you adorable duck is a thief.

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

F. Lobot posted:

Is an FEC complaint just something anybody's uncle can file? Fox News usually has the decency to grossly misrepresent something that they didn't 100% make up.

A conservative activist group filed a complaint, which will likely be dismissed.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Chilichimp posted:

What ~the gently caress~ do you think he was talking about, my dude?

Not time travel, as a bunch of people tried to dunk on him with.

The short version is that the guy definitely wasn't blaming him for the events of 1929, as people were pretending he did. His point is still incredibly stupid.

edit: a better point would have been to note that the guy didn't say "created" but rather "worsened", rather than focusing on the Great Depression part. He's still a dummy

theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Mar 5, 2019

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

F. Lobot posted:

Is an FEC complaint just something anybody's uncle can file? Fox News usually has the decency to grossly misrepresent something that they didn't 100% make up.

quote:

The complaint was drafted by the Virginia-based National Legal and Policy Center. It accuses Ocasio-Cortez and Saikat Chakrabarti, her chief of staff, of funneling nearly $1 million in contributions from political action committees Chakrabarti established to private companies that he also controlled.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ryangrim...r-fec-complaint

https://mobile.twitter.com/saikatc/...r-fec-complaint

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



So apparently no one is even sure if the moronic moderate dems can even get their kneejerk "anti-semetic dissaproval resolution" to even pass, because even most dems are balking at how stupid and unneccesary it is.

What a poo poo show these loving idiot "moderates" have created

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 5, 2019

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

TulliusCicero posted:

So apparently no one is even sure if the moronic moderate dems can even get their kneejerk "anti-semetic dissaproval resolution" to even passed, because even most dems are balking at how stupid and unneccesary it is.

What a poo poo show these loving idiot "moderates" have created

oh, so now they run risk of the cool optics of opponents saying "LOOK THE DEMS CAN'T EVEN SUPPORT AN OPPOSITION TO ANTISEMITISM!!!!" for the next month

nice job Nancy and crew, really stomped the fire of 'uppity minority said thing' out

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

theflyingorc posted:

Not time travel, as a bunch of people tried to dunk on him with.

The short version is that the guy definitely wasn't blaming him for the events of 1929, as people were pretending he did. His point is still incredibly stupid.

edit: a better point would have been to note that the guy didn't say "created" but rather "worsened", rather than focusing on the Great Depression part. He's still a dummy

I don't disagree with anything you just said, but what YOU said was

theflyingorc posted:

The text of this headline is not in the quote

He does not say "great depression" at any point

Which is some weapons grade disingenuous pedantry. He was obviously talking about The Great Depression.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

WHAT

TulliusCicero posted:

So apparently no one is even sure if the moronic moderate dems can even get their kneejerk "anti-semetic dissaproval resolution" to even passed, because even most dems are balking at how stupid and unneccesary it is.

What a poo poo show these loving idiot "moderates" have created

They should expand that resolution to include other kinds of religious bigotry and pull the poo poo that Omar said. Idk if there’s another way to unfuck this situation.

It would be a good to have a thorough denunciation of antisemitism and islamophbia on record.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

Chilichimp posted:

What ~the gently caress~ do you think he was talking about, my dude?

This

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

sexpig by night posted:

oh, so now they run risk of the cool optics of opponents saying "LOOK THE DEMS CAN'T EVEN SUPPORT AN OPPOSITION TO ANTISEMITISM!!!!" for the next month

nice job Nancy and crew, really stomped the fire of 'uppity minority said thing' out

I feel like Nancy might have some morons rattling the cages... morons who like their AIPAC money.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

I wasn't asking for the article, I was asking why he said this

theflyingorc posted:

The text of this headline is not in the quote

He does not say "great depression" at any point

When the speaker in the video is CLEARLY talking about The Great Depression, and so too is the article.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

yeah this seems to pass the smell test

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

theflyingorc posted:

how incredibly loving racist to use Desi Arnez's catchphrase just because she's Latina

It’s because he wants to spank her and is in denial about it.

Also, this is extremely superficial of me, but it’s amazing that the right still can’t find an unflattering picture of her, so they just default to her looking intense or unamused, as if those are scary expressions for a woman to have.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Chilichimp posted:

I feel like Nancy might have some morons rattling the cages... morons who like their AIPAC money.

Oh she doesn't need others getting their cages rattled

http://www.policyconference.org/article/transcripts/2017/pelosi.asp

quote:

Good morning, everyone. It is such an honor to be here with your President Lillian Pinkus. Thank you, Lillian for your leadership of AIPAC. Women have done so much in leadership in AIPAC, former President Amy Friedkin. Thank you for your friendship and for your leadership and your continued leadership on so many issues. Cissie Swig from California—anybody here from California? I thought so. I learned a lot about AIPAC from its start from Cissie Swig and also from Naomi Lauter. Anybody here from San Francisco?

Every year the AIPAC Policy Conference shows the strength and the vitality of the unbreakable bonds between the United States and Israel. This year 18,000 strong activists and community leaders of diverse experience, young and old, Jewish and otherwise, Democratic and Republican, many voices speaking to one mission.

Let us all recognize the future leaders of our nation. I understand about 4,000 students are here. Let's acknowledge the students that are here. I want to especially, once again, acknowledge the delegation from my home State of California don't be shy and my native State of Maryland. Anybody here from Maryland? As I bring up the State of Maryland, I want to say something about how I was introduced to the U.S.-Israel relationship.

Before I was even born, my father was in the Congress of the United States, Thomas D'Alesandro Jr. He was a—okay, let's hear it for dad—he was, as a little teenager, a Shabbat goy. So he spoke Yiddish. So as he grew up in that—and he was an orator, he was a great speaker and all the rest and he had a love for the idea of a Jewish state in what was then called Palestine. So when he was older and he went to Congress, this was one of his big issues.

He worshiped at the shrine of Franklin Roosevelt. He was a New Deal Democrat. He worshipped at the shrine of Franklin Roosevelt, but he disagreed with him on two very strong points. One was on the treatment of Jewish people in Europe that he wanted to call more attention to, and the second one was the establishment of a Jewish state in what was then known as Palestine.

He was part of something called the Bergson Group. Now, some of you know this, some of you Marylanders, since—and we've shared this thought at other times—but I just want you to know that this support for U.S.-Israel relationship is kind of in the DNA of our family even before the establishment of the State of Israel. He went on to become the mayor of Baltimore and support all of that.

My brother would become the mayor of Baltimore and he supported the State of Israel and U.S.-Israel relationship as well and has a, they say, stadium. I don't know if that means playing field, whatever in Haifa named for him, Thomas D'Alesandro III. But one of the things that I think is so remarkable as I look back at my father, part of this Bergson Group that went around, they had pageants and parades and rallies. Here he was, this orator, speaking in Yiddish about the cause.

When he was on the floor of Congress in June 22, 1942, he rose to speak about the State of Israel and he said, "Mr. Speaker, as a member of the committee for a Jewish Army, I speak to you on behalf of 200,000 fighting men who, by divine destiny"—then he goes on to say that they are fighting for the establishment of the State of Israel.

So this was really a big deal for all of us. So while I do not have—cannot boast of Jewish grandparents, as other speakers have and will and how fortunate they are, I do have my father's devotion and my brother's devotion to the cause, which is part of our family tradition and I do have to boast of my Jewish grandchildren.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Are you insinuating that she is behind the attempted rebuke of Ilhan, even though it seems like it's the lovely neo-concus morons who've been trying to pit her against the progressive wing since this session started... because she gave a speech at a donor's conference once?

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

Silver Nitrate posted:


This is what I get for reading the paper in the afternoon. Damnit

Probably didn't help that I blew it and completely misread that tweet on my first go-round, apologies.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Chilichimp posted:

Are you insinuating that she is behind the attempted rebuke of Ilhan, even though it seems like it's the lovely neo-concus morons who've been trying to pit her against the progressive wing since this session started?

Uh I think if the house dems are planning some boneheaded move to not-explicit-rebuke her then yes she at least knows what's going on and is fine with it.

Also considering she was one of the ones to 'rebuke' her last time, yes?

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

sexpig by night posted:

oh, so now they run risk of the cool optics of opponents saying "LOOK THE DEMS CAN'T EVEN SUPPORT AN OPPOSITION TO ANTISEMITISM!!!!" for the next month

nice job Nancy and crew, really stomped the fire of 'uppity minority said thing' out

Who gives a poo poo what they say?

Oh no! Republicans will be mean and not argue in good faith!

!

:jerkbag:

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

sexpig by night posted:

oh, so now they run risk of the cool optics of opponents saying "LOOK THE DEMS CAN'T EVEN SUPPORT AN OPPOSITION TO ANTISEMITISM!!!!" for the next month
this was almost exactly the chyron on fox news a little bit ago.

like, 'dems split on measure against anti-semitism'

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

sexpig by night posted:

Uh I think if the house dems are planning some boneheaded move to not-explicit-rebuke her then yes she at least knows what's going on and is fine with it.

Also considering she was one of the ones to 'rebuke' her last time, yes?

Or knows it's going on and is making GBS threads on the people behind it in private while they do their ineffectual attempt at a rebuke?

What I want to know is, what proof do you have she knew about this and was fine with it, because so far this just seems like a shitshow that doesn't have any backing in the house leadership.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1103045087720808450

dwarf74 posted:

this was almost exactly the chyron on fox news a little bit ago.

like, 'dems split on measure against anti-semitism'

And this is why you dont feed the trolls, kids

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Spun Dog posted:

Who gives a poo poo what they say?

Oh no! Republicans will be mean and not argue in good faith!

!

:jerkbag:

I mean yea, no poo poo, but this shouldn't even be happening, so the fact that it's a 100% unforced error makes it worth pointing out how terrible it is.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Chilichimp posted:

Or knows it's going on and is making GBS threads on the people behind it in private while they do their ineffectual attempt at a rebuke?

What I want to know is, what proof do you have she knew about this and was fine with it, because so far this just seems like a shitshow that doesn't have any backing in the house leadership.

Again, she was one of the first people to condemn her last time and you'd think the loving leader of the house dems would, if this shitshow was something she didn't support, put a statement out indicating she doesn't support it?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

HootTheOwl posted:

SO she gets to sue them when this ends up being slander or whatever, right?

Slander is spoken. In print it's libel.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



sexpig by night posted:

Uh I think if the house dems are planning some boneheaded move to not-explicit-rebuke her then yes she at least knows what's going on and is fine with it.

Also considering she was one of the ones to 'rebuke' her last time, yes?

I gotta say if Dems are split on this it probably is because Pelosi is not on board with this, because whatever her other flaws she has a firm hold on her Caucus, and if they are saying they don't have the votes it's because she probably doesn't care enough to push for it.

That's me reading from the outside though, so who knows.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

sexpig by night posted:

I mean yea, no poo poo, but this shouldn't even be happening, so the fact that it's a 100% unforced error makes it worth pointing out how terrible it is.

I'd rather the error be out there, honestly.

Dave Anthony joked about this the other day... just puts more names on the "to be primaried" list.

TulliusCicero posted:

I gotta say if Dems are split on this it probably is because Pelosi is not on board with this, because whatever her other flaws she has a firm hold on her Caucus, and if they are saying they don't have the votes it's because she probably doesn't care enough to push for it.

That's me reading from the outside though, so who knows.

my dude, we're all reading from outside, including the "Pelosi is behind this" takes which don't make any sense unless you think Pelosi is "the wOrSt"

Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Mar 5, 2019

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?


The only political compass quiz will ever need. tag yourself, I like bourbon :gonk:

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Quorum posted:



The only political compass quiz will ever need. tag yourself, I like bourbon :gonk:

I'm too centrist in this list with my preference for scotch

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

sexpig by night posted:

I mean yea, no poo poo, but this shouldn't even be happening, so the fact that it's a 100% unforced error makes it worth pointing out how terrible it is.

So learn from it and move on. Every misstep by democrats doesn't require a full blown meltdown.

Missing DW-Link
Feb 14, 2019

by VideoGames

Arcsquad12 posted:

Slander is spoken. In print it's libel.

SOMEONE GET ME A PHOTO OF THAT PROGRESSIVE POLICY SLINGING SOCIALIST!!!!!!!!!!!

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1103046453704953862?s=19

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
in what universe is pelosi actually going to primary those people


Again, she was literally one of the core reasons the right has this narrative at all, because she quickly came out to condemn Omar over the first time and now they can go 'look even her own leadership agrees!!!'

Asema
Oct 2, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Spun Dog posted:

So learn from it and move on. Every misstep by democrats doesn't require a full blown meltdown.

gop: *missteps at like five times a day*
everyone:

dems: *missteps*
everyone: this is why nobody votes

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

Chilichimp posted:

I wasn't asking for the article, I was asking why he said this

Ugato posted:

He says recession instead of depression and to “not sound dumb” he doesn’t relent on his misused word and says the new deal lead to a depression.

Ugato posted:

He still said something dumb. The Great Depression was still happening. He just said recession instead of depression and rather than correct himself just made up what he said because who’s going to know the difference on Fox News anyway.

Because self important people, especially on the right, have a “never admit you’re wrong” reflex and it often results in doubling down on stupid poo poo - especially instantly.

E: trimmed quote

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Insanite posted:

https://twitter.com/mikandynothem/status/1102936448796250114

That seems pretty cut and dry. She's goin' to jail!!!

Excuse me sir I think you will find the Congresswoman is incapable of mansplaining. :colbert:

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Spun Dog posted:

So learn from it and move on. Every misstep by democrats doesn't require a full blown meltdown.

...What the gently caress even is this? Like, you get Fox News and all exist entirely to amplify 'missteps' the dems do and such a stupid self own like this is red meat for them not only to amplify but to use as active cover for their bigots too, right? This is actually a really loving terrible thing they're doing to a young Muslim member of their own party and it literally only benefits the worst human beings. This should be a loving unforgivable act of moral cowardice and craven greed not 'aw gee learn from your mistakes bucko'.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
oopsie doopsie! I just accidentally bumbled into leading a bigoted attack on one of my own members that only serves to further entrench the most violent and cruel people in America. Well pobody's nerfect!

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Ugato posted:

Because self important people, especially on the right, have a “never admit you’re wrong” reflex and it often results in doubling down on stupid poo poo - especially instantly.

E: trimmed quote

Again, I was talking about why flyingorc said that "great depression didn't appear in the article". But beyond that, "FDR actually caused the great depression" is a right-wing canard that's been making the rounds of faux right-wing intellectuals for decades. He didn't misspeak or put his foot in his mouth. They honestly believe that the great depression was a run-of-the-mill recession that was deepened and exacerbated by socialist intervention. Tom Sowell, the intellectual heir of Thomas Friedman, speaks about this repeatedly, in between railing about how gun-free-zones don't work, because criminals don't abide by them.

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Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

sexpig by night posted:

...What the gently caress even is this? Like, you get Fox News and all exist entirely to amplify 'missteps' the dems do and such a stupid self own like this is red meat for them not only to amplify but to use as active cover for their bigots too, right? This is actually a really loving terrible thing they're doing to a young Muslim member of their own party and it literally only benefits the worst human beings. This should be a loving unforgivable act of moral cowardice and craven greed not 'aw gee learn from your mistakes bucko'.

..and they wouldn't be doing this even if democrats made no mistakes?

Death panels? Jade Helm?

Looks to me like you've just swallowed right wing framing of the issues uncritically and are happy to repeat their lies for them.

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