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there could have been something left behind or even just that period of time was enough to affect things. we don't actually know yet, just that the tree where it happened is somewhat weird.
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Jesus's dick fell off and is the source of the wall eyes.
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Mar 5, 2019 22:12
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Inflammatory posted:lmao at calling pucci straight Pucci's platonic love for Dio transcended time.
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Mar 5, 2019 22:21
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Expect My Mom posted:Serious answer: He got the rib cage corpse parr some time before we see him handsome so almost certainly that I put it down to Araki not deciding how D4C worked ahead of time. Wasn't there a part where there were like 10 Valentines having a meeting?
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Mar 5, 2019 22:45
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Funky Valentine posted:Jesus's dick fell off and is the source of the wall eyes. Josuke's second pair isn't Kira's, it's from the holy corpse.
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Mar 5, 2019 22:52
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Is there a good way to pace yourself reading manga? I wanna re-read Steel Ball Run, and I think I blitzed through it my first time because it was cool as poo poo.
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Mar 5, 2019 23:08
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multijoe posted:The real telling moment with Valentine is when he legit convinces Johnny to back down and make peace with him and is completely free to walk away and achieve his goals unmolested and thinks 'when his guard is dropped and I've made a solumn vow on my father's honour to leave him be - that's when I'll murder him'. Just an absolute piece of poo poo. He is absolutely a piece of poo poo and it's a lovely thing to do, but this particular bit of shittiness is completely in keeping with the rest of his mission. He's invested everything in seizing the holy corpse so that its power can guarantee American supremacy. Then Tusk Act 4 comes along and effortlessly punches through Love Train. The existence of a power that can overcome the holy corpse renders his whole plan empty. Valentine can't achieve his goal of a completely uncontested American reign so long as Tusk Act 4 exists, no longer how unaggressive and cooperative its user may be for now. Tusk Act 4's power is a threat to America, so Johnny has to go. Meme Emulator posted:Its been a while since I read Steel Ball Run but in the end the corpse ends up locked up in Manhattan and under the control of the US, right? I always felt like World War 2 was the culmination of bad luck being projected away from the United States and in the end every other major power got reduced to ashes and the US was there to profit from it One thing that frustrates me about Steel Ball Run is that Valentine more or less achieves what he wanted, but we don't really know how that affected anything (if at all). I'd figure that having the US shielded by a magical tragedy-deflecting aegis would have some pretty radical implications for history, but we never hear about any. I've always found the World War 2 theory personally unsatisfying because WW2 already happened in our timeline (and presumably in the Part 1-6 timeline) without Jesus's help.
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Mar 5, 2019 23:51
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Gaius Marius posted:Wait did they succeed? I thought the walleyes were caused by all the Jesus in the soil. Zeruel posted:Is there a good way to pace yourself reading manga? I wanna re-read Steel Ball Run, and I think I blitzed through it my first time because it was cool as poo poo. I'm thinking three volumes a week, so that's two months?
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Mar 6, 2019 00:03
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Expect My Mom posted:They did! and that still might be the cause. They talk about how Daiya used to play where a Wall Eye would later be and went blind as a child so my theory is that the 2011 earthquake shook something up and finally made them come above ground Dope, sign me up if you do. I probably know a few people who would wanna follow it too. Excited to re-read Diego's poo poo with Scary monsters and eating「rocks」. 
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Mar 6, 2019 00:28
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Does the corpse even do the damage reflection thing, or anything else, when it's locked in the Manhattan bunker? I thought that Valentine or whoever else had to activate it and that it was just sitting there otherwise.
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Mar 6, 2019 00:49
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what was even the purpose of the corpse why'd jesus go through all this effort to ensure his dead body could only do evil things and then get locked in a vault
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Mar 6, 2019 01:38
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The corpse works on it's own when it's united together.
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Mar 6, 2019 01:44
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Tetracube posted:what was even the purpose of the corpse he didn't he just happened to be the son of god and then died. i think he makes a map to show joseph where his body parts would be, but that's more seeing the future than any direct will. when we see jesus appear before characters, he never seems to have a goal, just giving them advice and also impregnating people with his head Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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Mar 6, 2019 01:48
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Expect My Mom posted:uhh i can't endorse that
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Mar 6, 2019 01:51
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I just realized I've spoiled myself on Part 5 by reading Part 6 first. I forget the specifics but in Part 6 Pucci gets all the Sons of DIO together and Giorno isn't there. That means Giorno dies in Part 5, right?
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Mar 6, 2019 06:31
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Mar 6, 2019 06:36
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I just realized I've spoiled myself on Part 5 by reading Part 6 first. I forget the specifics but in Part 6 Pucci gets all the Sons of DIO together and Giorno isn't there. That means Giorno dies in Part 5, right? He's there, somewhere. Basically Araki forgot.
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Mar 6, 2019 06:52
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Giorno - He should be around here somewhere...
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Mar 6, 2019 07:01
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Giorno was too busy enjoying Disney World to care about Gravity
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Mar 6, 2019 07:06
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Mista would want to take pictures with all the people in costume and Trish would post heavily filtered pics of the magic kingdom at night to her instagram
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Mar 6, 2019 07:16
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overmind2000 posted:Giorno was too busy enjoying Disney World to care about Gravity
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Mar 6, 2019 07:16
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I saw a book at barnes and nobles, I forget the name but I think it was called "100 manga artists" or something like that. Decided to leaf through it to see if araki was in it, he was, and the pages they included were one page of star platinum doing some stuff from part 3 and another page that was jolyne about to be killed by made in heaven while emporio was screaming and man that's a hell of a page to shove in there lol
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Mar 6, 2019 07:42
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Expect My Mom posted:uhh the point being a) his corpse was only useful for evil things and b) he doesn't seem to care and in fact makes the parts easier to find
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Mar 6, 2019 16:10
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Tetracube posted:a) his corpse was only useful for evil things and Seems realistic to me, considering a lot of poo poo Christians get down to.
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Mar 6, 2019 16:35
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Waffleman_ posted:Seems realistic to me, considering a lot of poo poo Christians get down to. Almost as if it's a metaphor or something. 
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Mar 6, 2019 17:40
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Metaphor? Never even heardaphor.
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Mar 6, 2019 17:49
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I'm still betting on Jesus being a Joestar from the previous world.
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Tetracube posted:the point being I don't think that's true, Valentine just used it backwards. Much like Jesus sacrificed himself and took all of humanities sins onto himself, his stand is supposed to be used to redirect the misfortune of others onto the user. But since Valentine did not believe in helping everyone, he either consiously or unconsiously reversed the effect. Honest Thief posted:I'm still betting on Jesus being a Joestar from the previous world. Someone pointed this out in this thread before: Joshua, son of Joseph
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Mar 6, 2019 19:24
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I don't think that Jesus' power to bring all good things to a localized area and push all bad things to another area is inherently an evil power, it's just clearly terrible when used by someone who would twist such a divine power that could provide good for the entire planet into one that provides safety solely for himself and his own position of power entirely at the expense of the meek who should properly inherit this ability and the lands that it creates.
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There is inherently no good way to use that power because all that bad explicitly has to go somewhere. Yeah maybe it all gets shuttled to a planet of Nazis but you can't know or control that, and unless you have a "deserving" subject you're just inflicting harms that are by all rights your own on other people.
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Mar 6, 2019 21:06
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Arist posted:There is inherently no good way to use that power because all that bad explicitly has to go somewhere. Bring all the bad into yourself, assuredly sacrificing your life for the sake of others. 
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Mar 6, 2019 21:13
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I was thinking more specifically about the application of "sending the bad things away," but yes, you're right, that's probably the "good" way.
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Mar 6, 2019 21:15
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I mean, that's what Jesus did
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Arist posted:There is inherently no good way to use that power because all that bad explicitly has to go somewhere. Yeah maybe it all gets shuttled to a planet of Nazis but you can't know or control that, and unless you have a "deserving" subject you're just inflicting harms that are by all rights your own on other people. Now I'm thinking how could we tie in Star Trek into Jojo's?
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And what better commentary than to show what happens when an American politician takes that and uses it for imperialism and to prop of America as the shining city on the hill. Man I want that SBR book club thread now.
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Arist posted:There is inherently no good way to use that power because all that bad explicitly has to go somewhere. Yeah maybe it all gets shuttled to a planet of Nazis but you can't know or control that, and unless you have a "deserving" subject you're just inflicting harms that are by all rights your own on other people. Bring it onto yourself or use it to send the bad to a designated barren place that will not have any effect on life or nature as we know it. As opposed to using the power of Christ to cause wanton uncontrollable destruction in foreign countries
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BaDandy posted:And what better commentary than to show what happens when an American politician takes that and uses it for imperialism and to prop of America as the shining city on the hill. i would like it to be a spoiler free place for anime onlys to keep the jojo going while we wait for part 6, but i feel it'll mostly be manga folks just discussing stuff as it happens
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Mar 6, 2019 22:19
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could maybe do it earlier too if people want to, a fun thing to start during the break week and have two different jojo discussions going
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Has Araki ever gone into how he designs the various villains from different parts, how he gets his inspiration for their designs? Basically I am convinced that the fake Captain Tennille is Araki's take on Tom of Finland's art but I have absolutely no way of proving that and it is all just conjecture but I am curious if Araki ever went into his inspirations for any of part 3's villains. I know he has cribbed from other media before and that Jojo is kind of a big melting pot of whatever pop culture stuff Araki likes mashed together and mostly smoothed out and I feel like chances are he is probably familiar with Tom of Finland's work.
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There should be a stand named Jocko Homo. I don’t know what it would do though.
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