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Eltoasto posted:And if you are a very, very good boy, you get to touch the orb. Oh my god remember that entire performance? Remember the stadium sized “counter terrorist” room that was clearly a loving movie set? That was like 2 years ago now.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Every state trip to KSA, every official finds a fat envelope full of cash and jewels in their hotel room. I'm 100% serious i swear i read that article or whatever too but i can't find it fake edit: this might be it? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/04/saudi-arabia-jewels-white-house-obama-ben-rhodes
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rkajdi posted:I understand it too. Doing it makes you a loving trash person, same as all the slut-shamers that I'd hope we all mock. Either victims deserve sympathy, or they don't. No loving exceptions. I am sure the strawman you are eviscerating feels very owned right now, but you are conflating/misreading all kinds of poo poo and it makes responding you a completely pointless endeavor. Godspeed.
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had to flip through a page or three of search results to find it because of all the stories about the Saudis bribing Donald Trump and Jared Kushner 
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1103403512631881734 Nice. Due to his age and length of service in government I was very worried he would join in on condemning her. Glad to see he did not.
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1103403512631881734 incoming character assassination of Bernie a la Corben in 5...4...3...
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Oh my god remember that entire performance? Remember the stadium sized “counter terrorist” room that was clearly a loving movie set? That was like 2 years ago now. 
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Every state trip to KSA, every official finds a fat envelope full of cash and jewels in their hotel room. I'm 100% serious The KSA are paying Vice McMahon (husband of Cabinet member Linda McMahon) millions of dollars a year in a 10 year contract to do propaganda for them to the US lower classes.
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1103403512631881734 For the Dem frontrunner, who is Jewish, to stand with Omar while the party is collectively losing their heads speaks volumes.
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Chilichimp posted:incoming character assassination of Bernie a la Corben in 5...4...3... He's jewish so that doesn't really work. They can try the ol' "self-loathing jew" routine but he'll just tell them to blow it up their rear end.
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VH4Ever posted:Nice. Due to his age and length of service in government I was very worried he would join in on condemning her. Glad to see he did not. Bernie . . . good?
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Deified Data posted:For the Dem frontrunner, who is Jewish, to stand with Omar while the party is collectively losing their heads speaks volumes. Since he's not a Dem (though he'll run as one) it kind of muddles that
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Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1103403512631881734 starting to think this bernard fellow might be good
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WampaLord posted:How do you think GoFundMe makes money? People give GoFundMe money voluntarily when giving a campaign money. I'm not suggesting they don't wind up getting revenue as a result of medical funding campaigns, which is why I said there's obviously a relationship there. That doesn't tell me it's where they get a third of their revenue. For all I know, it's more! TheScott2K posted:The PSA Boys started some side thing with Trent loving Lott selec posted:If you make money off those medical go fund mes, every dollar is a reason to oppose health care reform. https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/961026171948302336 https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/961125062970609666 https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/961014147440828418 I'm gonna stick with it being pretty disingenuous to roll that into "opposed to M4A". eviltastic fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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Brian Schatz said something similar to Bernie https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1102744587335073792
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Oh my god remember that entire performance? Remember the stadium sized “counter terrorist” room that was clearly a loving movie set? That was like 2 years ago now. Feels like a decade.
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TheScott2K posted:The thing about tropes is, they're not supposed to be a means of declaring subject matters off limits. If a statement fits a trope, what it means is that the listener should be more vigilant than usual about it being a lie. "Drunk Irishman" is a trope, but that doesn't get me out of a DUI just for being Irish if I am in fact drunk. Sometimes referencing a trope is a racist and discriminatory act all by itself. For example, if your boss calls you an “angry black woman”, or else references the trope of the angry black person, that is itself a harmful thing and an act of racial discrimination. If he then fires you, or fails to promote you, or gives you worse assignments than you were getting before, or takes any other adverse action, you can and should sue him for employment discrimination. (IANAL, I am not practicing law, nothing in this post is legal advice). Similarly, Omar’s tweet plays into the harmful trope that Jewish people work behind the scenes to manipulate global affairs. It may indeed be true that AIPAC uses money and political influence to support a pro-Israel political interest (it is true, and as you point out they would agree that is the point of their organization) but it is possible to point that out without sounding like something from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Omar did not pay enough attention to her words, and she crossed the line. She apologized. Now, it’s nuts that we’re still talking about it now , and that’s thanks to the Dem leadership. And they certainly deserve some criticism. But there’s no need to turn on good people going a good job like AOC and Pelosi so viciously over this. It only hurts the party.
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theblackw0lf posted:Brian Schatz said something similar to Bernie stupid question, isn't bibi possibly hosed, like he is reduced to siding with the most insane right wing psychos to try to save himself. if he gets kicked and likud fractures, then maybe better parties can take over.
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Levitate posted:Since he's not a Dem (though he'll run as one) it kind of muddles that He signed a DNC loyalty pledge or something yesterday he's basically a dem
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the tide is turning in this story. With any luck, Dem leadership will see that opposing Likud policy is actually a major part of the coalition and use it as a way to define themselves against the GOP. I'm not particularly optimistic that that's what's going to happen, but it's not inconceivable. The GOP is definitely going to try to extort the Dems into punishing Omar again, and they'll still have Dem allies.
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Ogmius815 posted:Similarly, Omar’s tweet plays into the harmful trope that Jewish people work behind the scenes to manipulate global affairs.  what
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FilthyImp posted:
What part of that is confusing you?
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Ogmius815 posted:What part of that is confusing you? Probably the part where you perpetuated the smear campaign.
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Ogmius815 posted:Now, it’s nuts that we’re still talking about it now , and that’s thanks to the Dem leadership. And they certainly deserve some criticism. But there’s no need to turn on good people going a good job like AOC and Pelosi so viciously over this. It only hurts the party. Some mean posts on Something Awful do not "hurt the party" you lunatic. Criticising politicians is good, it's how they get better. Ogmius815 posted:It may indeed be true that AIPAC uses money and political influence to support a pro-Israel political interest (it is true, and as you point out they would agree that is the point of their organization) but loving lmao
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Ogmius815 posted:but it is possible to point that out without sounding How? Ignoring your exaggeration since that is a very specific kind of statement to make and misrepresents (intentionally?) what the rules and the stakes of this debate really are. There is in fact no "right way" to do it and those pretending there is are being disingenuous. How does one criticize the lobbying efforts of AIPAC, or any instrument of the state of Israel, without opening themselves to accusations of antisemitism? Because if I can imagine an uncharitable interpretation of literally any take on the subject, I guarantee you the brokebrains can do better.
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Look I know the whole "middle of the road both sides are wrong" approach can be appealing but Ilhan Omar said the truth about AIPAC and claiming that it "plays into harmful tropes" is bull.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:This is a pretty dumb take. You can believe that and I will just be over here, Not Munching Piss. KillerQueen posted:Look I know the whole "middle of the road both sides are wrong" approach can be appealing but Ilhan Omar said what is literally the truth about AIPAC and claiming that it "plays into harmful tropes" is bull. Here's the thing, if you apply no context to it and hear it sort of edited, it does sound antisemitic.
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Ogmius815 posted:Similarly, Omar’s tweet plays into the harmful trope that Jewish people work behind the scenes to manipulate global affairs. hmmm tell me more about your weird nazi brain associations
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Push El Burrito posted:Here's the thing, if you apply no context to it and hear it sort of edited, it does sound antisemitic. Everything that criticizes Israel is anti-Semitic per ADL and AIPAC. So something wrong: Either its targeted to suppress any criticism (its this) or its actually anti-Semitic. Choose one.
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KillerQueen posted:Look I know the whole "middle of the road both sides are wrong" approach can be appealing but Ilhan Omar said the truth about AIPAC and claiming that it "plays into harmful tropes" is bull. It was how she phrased it.
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The context is a brown, visibly Muslim woman is saying it and that's why it sounds antisemitic to a lot of people - because those people have an unreasonable bias that Muslims are antisemitic and color the statements with that. These people might not mean it, and may not be truly Islamophobic in their hearts, but they need to be cautious in their language so as not to perpetuate harmful stereotypes about Muslim people. See how easy this poo poo is
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"AIPAC lobbies." "Hrm so you're saying the Jews secretly run the world, that thing we all assume people are saying?"
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Man, I can't wait for the day that the ADL and AIPAC call out Bibi for shaking hands and siding with Anti-Semitic organizations. Oh wait, he's the Israeli prime minister, and that makes him exempt? drat. sexpig by night posted:"AIPAC lobbies." Is Israeli exclusively a Jewish entity? Sounds like the problem lies with them.
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eviltastic posted:People give GoFundMe money voluntarily when giving a campaign money. I'm not suggesting they don't wind up getting revenue as a result of medical funding campaigns, which is why I said there's obviously a relationship there. That doesn't tell me it's where they get a third of their revenue. For all I know, it's more! The fucker is still on the board of USofC. If he actually gave a drat he would resign and join one of the god damned m4a groups. Bullshit it wasn't established to be so.e middle of the road
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Doctor Butts posted:It was how she phrased it. She actually phrased it 100% accurately and honestly!
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1103382044401418243 Even the Republicans admit this is just a cynical strategy to divide the left lol
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Look she said that people shouldn't have an allegiance to Israel over America. It's not like Arkansas passed a law stating that your company can't work with them if you boycott Israel or anything.
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Doctor Butts posted:It was how she phrased it. How would you phrase it
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Push El Burrito posted:Look she said that people shouldn't have an allegiance to Israel over America. It's not like Arkansas passed a law stating that your company can't work with them if you boycott Israel or anything. She was talking about legislators, who are AIPACs target. C'mon now.
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