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BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Eej posted:

lmao what do you think tax breaks are

It's not even "free"; it comes out of everyone's taxes.

Also, lol at the idea that a voting-age adult watched the 2016 elections and had the take away of "let's do the same thing, but with even more milquetoast centrism!". Can't see how Trump will be able to withstand the promise of means-tested tax credits for health insurance months after an expensive operation bankrupts you or a market-based solution to climate change 30 years after major ecosystems collapse.

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Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Reign Of Pain posted:

All I'm sayin' is 4 more years of Dirty Donny is the worst case scenario and thats the way 2020 should be played. 2022 is a different thing

e:


I voted for Beto. 1st in a long time because I thought he had a hope in hell and because I wanted to hit all D's on the machine as a gently caress you to Donny. I also have many reasons to despise Ted Cruz but getting free poo poo had nothing at all to do with me going out and voting. It had to do with me finding the actions of republicans so repugnant that I had to spend almost half an hour to get off my rear end and go to Randalls.

If Donald Trump manages to win a second term after how hosed up his first has been Rep. Omar and company's comments won't be to blame. Jesus when you list out all the bad poo poo that's happened inside the United States over the past 2 years there is absolutely no reason anyone could reasonably argue that Trump deserves any more time at the helm.

If someone can't see that then gently caress em, there's no appealing to them anyway.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008



But I thought Jared was going to fix I/P, is something wrong with our America's perfect boy :ohdear:

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

Which set of extra people is she going to throw out of the land? Which brings her joy?

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

Eej posted:

lmao what do you think tax breaks are

Which ones? That's a very broad question

Eej posted:

btw please take a step back to reassess why the only examples of uppity noob dems are POC women

no gently caress you its called coincidence. Way to jump to conclusions there ace

Kawasaki Nun posted:

If Donald Trump manages to win a second term after how hosed up his first has been Rep. Omar and company's comments won't be to blame. Jesus when you list out all the bad poo poo that's happened inside the United States over the past 2 years there is absolutely no reason anyone could reasonably argue that Trump deserves any more time at the helm.

If someone can't see that then gently caress em, there's no appealing to them anyway.

His entire campaign was a reason NOT to vote for him - he's actually acted like the loving rear end in a top hat he said that he'd be but he's just gone above and beyond. Why won't they vote for him AGAIN? I'm just saying that Omar ain't helping by running her n00b yapper when there is already a spotlight on her with a shitload of people on the left and right waiting for her to gently caress up because shes a proud muslim.

SORRY FOR BEING PRAGMATIC

get off my lawn

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Vasudus posted:

i'm a reformed centrist democrat that has been pushed further to the left out of political necessity and it's been for the better

ama

Are you me?

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017

Reign Of Pain posted:

Which ones? That's a very broad question


no gently caress you its called coincidence. Way to jump to conclusions there ace


His entire campaign was a reason NOT to vote for him - he's actually acted like the loving rear end in a top hat he said that he'd be but he's just gone above and beyond. Why won't they vote for him AGAIN? I'm just saying that Omar ain't helping by running her n00b yapper when there is already a spotlight on her with a shitload of people on the left and right waiting for her to gently caress up because shes a proud muslim.

SORRY FOR BEING PRAGMATIC

get off my lawn

lol gently caress you

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Maybe people in her own party waiting for her to gently caress up/jumping on that and ignoring the insane racist poo poo the other side is throwing her way/doing to the "other" is indicative of what's hosed with her political party that could use changes, I dunno maybe we should ask Diane Feinstein for guidance on what to do

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008

Vasudus posted:

i'm a reformed centrist democrat that has been pushed further to the left out of political necessity and it's been for the better

ama

Yup same here. It’s definitely been for the better.

E: everything anyone with a D next to their name does is bad so why bother with trying to negotiate? Mitt Romney’s healthcare, Clinton’s foreign policy, and regans tax brackets were ~socialism~ under Obama. Why should we all be bankrupt when our health inevitably fails us or why should we allow a select few to profit off the upcoming climate disaster when we could try doing something even if it is late? Centrists don’t want to do anything meaningful.

Listening to Dem millionaire candidates try to sell us on “affordable” healthcare with market based solutions and means testing is going to get absolutely nobody excited to vote. Virtually every other wealthy nation has something to prevent the inevitable from leaving you destitute. Also I’m sure some more carbon taxes and feel good policies focused on individual carbon footprint not corporate or gov’t footprint will stop climate change! Better not rock the boat!

Centrism is nothing but preserving the status quo and the status quo is not working for the majority of America.

The venn diagram of “people who don’t feel the negative effects of republican policies” and “centrist democrats” is a perfect circle.

Richard Bong fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Mar 7, 2019

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Reign Of Pain posted:

Which ones? That's a very broad question


no gently caress you its called coincidence. Way to jump to conclusions there ace


His entire campaign was a reason NOT to vote for him - he's actually acted like the loving rear end in a top hat he said that he'd be but he's just gone above and beyond. Why won't they vote for him AGAIN? I'm just saying that Omar ain't helping by running her n00b yapper when there is already a spotlight on her with a shitload of people on the left and right waiting for her to gently caress up because shes a proud muslim.

SORRY FOR BEING PRAGMATIC

get off my lawn

This whole flap is about that lobby quote, right? She didn't even say anything remotely antisemitic or out of line IMO. If she was out there actually running her n00b yapper and saying dumb poo poo (like putting the coal industry out of work, calling people deplorables, etc) I'd agree. But unless I missed another statement, she's not.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I want all the coal miners to die. I'm a single issue voter.

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

CommieGIR posted:

Shared in my home town's Newspaper:



is this the denver post

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Reign Of Pain posted:

Which ones? That's a very broad question


no gently caress you its called coincidence. Way to jump to conclusions there ace

Tax breaks (for corporations, farmers, natural resources, entertainment, tech, etc) are just YOU GET FREE poo poo except it's just giving out hard cash

Also it's not coincidence that at all the heat is on two minority women. Don't engage with the media and chuds on their terms.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
What did AOC say that got them riled up? I know what Omar said (she wasn't wrong) but I'm blanking on what aoc did

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Milo and POTUS posted:

What did AOC say that got them riled up? I know what Omar said (she wasn't wrong) but I'm blanking on what aoc did

Existing.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

Also she's hot, but their entire experience with hot women are the ones trotted out at conventions, in the service industry, at strip clubs and on Fox News. They're thoroughly unused to being rebuked by someone who they would typically objectify, as the conservative echo chamber has done nothing but reinforce the idea that hot women agree with them 100% of the time.

And it unsettles the poo poo out of them.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
She also refuses to take any bait, and when she does debate people it's a grand slam of snark. Which infuriates the poo poo out of chuds because WHY WONT SHE DEBATE ME.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Milo and POTUS posted:

What did AOC say that got them riled up? I know what Omar said (she wasn't wrong) but I'm blanking on what aoc did

She wore a black skirt with high heels, which means she's a NAZI COMMUNIST WHORESLUT!!1!!!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I was referring more to why aipac was pissed because I knew the FN crowd couldnt get her out of their head

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Just saw on CNN's scrolling banner that the DNC has banned Fox from hosting 2020 presidential debates. About loving time right wing terrorist propaganda gets cut out of civilized society.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

BigDave posted:

She wore a black skirt with high heels, which means she's a NAZI COMMUNIST WHORESLUT!!1!!!

Let’s not forget the dancing. Oh, that twisting and gyrating, such a gratuitous display of youth and vigor. One needs only to observe the smile on her face to know that she’s thinking of her feet trampling over our beloved Flag, which itself was laid over a nest of baby bald eagles.

Also Bigly Strong President continues to make the case that the First Amendment is the Worst Amendment, repeal now!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1103446552524345346

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
The DNC controls the Democratic Party primary debates. The Presidential Debate Commission, a government entity, controls the general election debates.

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Vasudus posted:

The DNC controls the Democratic Party primary debates. The Presidential Debate Commission, a government entity, controls the general election debates.

No, it's a non-profit corporation under the joint sponsorship of the Dem and Rep political parties. It was created because when the league of women voters was running the debates (pre-88) they had much stricter rules and the candidates had much less control over what they would be asked.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Cool that 2 parties get to decide whether or not another should be allowed on national TV.

Arcella
Dec 16, 2013

Shiny and Chrome

Crakkerjakk posted:

No, it's a non-profit corporation under the joint sponsorship of the Dem and Rep political parties. It was created because when the league of women voters was running the debates (pre-88) they had much stricter rules and the candidates had much less control over what they would be asked.

lmao of course

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Reign Of Pain posted:

I feel that the SOCIALISM!!! and LOOK AT OMAR IN HER HEADWEAR STUFF SHE HATES JEWS!!! is gonna be a somewhat effective battle cry to make sure lazy chuds in the rural areas show up again and its gonna put off some conservative dems. It just seems unnecessary chaff to throw in the air while republicans still have the senate. There's no point right now. :shrug:

Revisiting this because I found a Good Tweet

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1103669849967022085?s=19

This poo poo ain't new and Republicans have been shitters about this topic for decades. It's just a whole buncha junk that doesn't actually end up mattering.

You know, like the President of the United States committing likely felonies before he was elected :v:

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


Like seriously, from wiki:

After studying the election process in 1985, the bipartisan National Commission on Elections recommended "[t]urning over the sponsorship of Presidential debates to the two major parties".[2] The CPD was established in 1987 by the chairmen of the Democratic and Republican Parties to "take control of the Presidential debates".[2] The commission was staffed by members from the two parties and chaired by the heads of the Democratic and Republican parties, Paul G. Kirk and Frank Fahrenkopf.[2] At a 1987 press conference announcing the commission's creation, Fahrenkopf said that the commission was not likely to include third-party candidates in debates, and Kirk said he personally believed they should be excluded from the debates.[2]

In 1988, the League of Women Voters withdrew its sponsorship of the presidential debates after the George H. W. Bush and Michael Dukakis campaigns secretly agreed to a "memorandum of understanding" that would decide which candidates could participate in the debates, which individuals would be panelists (and therefore able to ask questions), and the height of the lecterns. The League rejected the demands and released a statement saying that it was withdrawing support for the debates because "the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter."[4]

The CPD has run the debates in every election since then.

It's just a bit of political theater for people to repeat prepared talking points, for the most part. The best indicator of what someone is going to do once they get into office is what they've tried to get done prior to that, not the poo poo they're saying during a year and a half long job interview.

Crakkerjakk fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Mar 7, 2019

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

They should just bring everyone in for one long-rear end debate. A mass debate if you will.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Hickenlooper just killed his candidacy before they even had a slogan

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1103434853708693505?s=19

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Hickenlooper just killed his candidacy before they even had a slogan

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1103434853708693505?s=19

Lol buddy I don't think legalizing it will kill the tourism industry off in your state when the dang arsenal is right there in Denver and there's enough trains and buses to never need a car.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Milo and POTUS posted:

I was referring more to why aipac was pissed because I knew the FN crowd couldnt get her out of their head

Aoc said something about how omar aking if the isreal lobby is more loyal to US or isreali interests isnt by antisemetic. The jewish lobbyists are pissed that someone didnt condemn instantly a public figure that said something that wasnt 100% public backing for anything israel does.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/stat...ingawful.com%2F

Edit: lmao what a piece of poo poo

https://twitter.com/jpodhoretz/status/1103663346518241280?s=19

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Hickenlooper's such a milquetoast piece of poo poo.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



yeah but he's from the NY Post

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

DoktorLoken posted:

yeah but he's from the NY Post

Oh you want some NYT takes? (I know it's op-ed but still)

https://twitter.com/BretStephensNYT/status/1103645800377319425?s=19

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

What a dumb rear end in a top hat lmao

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/JSchanzer/status/1102630410117414913?s=19

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005




loving lol just....lolol. right. Ok. So let's run the next hundred years war and THEN....what? I don't get his point. We shouldn't call decades long drains on our military and treasury "forever war" because other countries have in the past decided to fight longer ones?

If you're super worried about weltpolitik and America's short attention span, please remember: the fish rots from the head.

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Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.

"The Punic Wars lasted over a hundred years therefore we should be in the Middle East for at least that long" is one hell of a take

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