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Oh I love the World Dreambank planet series. Just, uh, steer clear of most of his other stuff. (I say, having just found his deviantArt)
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Freudian posted:Oh I love the World Dreambank planet series. Just, uh, steer clear of most of his other stuff. That website is like an amazing artifact from the internet of 20 years ago. A bizarre mixture of geology, climatology, and centaur fetishism. It transitions seamlessly from discusses of the effect of topography on air pressure at mean sea level to sexy bird people to elaborate clay sculpture of mars after terraforming.
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Mar 3, 2019 00:39
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"On a planet like this, the main culture would undoubtedly be sexy cat-centaurs who'd want to bone me."
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Mar 3, 2019 09:41
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Ah I see you went to the Larry Niven school of writing
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Phlegmish posted:Ah I see you went to the Larry Niven school of writing The cat centaurs have childlike intelligence.
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Mar 3, 2019 13:35
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Platystemon posted:The cat centaurs have childlike intelligence. 
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Mar 3, 2019 13:51
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Wikipedia posted:Most Kzin females (s. Kzinrret, pl. Kzinrretti) are sub-sapient, with a vocabulary of fewer than a hundred word/sounds and primarily instinct-driven behavior, and are treated as chattel by males (s. Kzintosh, pl. Kzintoshi). This was not always the case: archaic Kzinrretti were sapient until the Kzin used Jotoki biotechnology to drive them to their current state while boosting the martial prowess of the males. The Puppeteer race also has subsapient broodmares. Those weren’t even the perversions I was remembering. I don’t know that Kzin females are even mentioned in Ringworld. No, worst thing I remembered is that the quote:Teela Brown is a fictional character created by Larry Niven in the Ringworld novels. Teela was a member of the crew recruited by Puppeteer Nessus for an expedition to the Ringworld. Her sole qualification was that she was descended from "lucky" ancestors, six generations of whom were born as a result of winning Earth's Birthright Lottery. The consequence of her state was that she'd led such a charmed and worry-free life that she was emotionally immature and unprepared for "harsh reality." The Puppeteer saw this as a kind of artificial selection, tending to breed for a psionic power of good luck. He hoped Teela would bring luck and success to the entire expedition.
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Platystemon posted:No, worst thing I remembered is that the In the sequel, Ringworld Engineers, the protagonist literally has sex with a child.
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Mar 3, 2019 14:27
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The BasLag books have the reverse. A species where the females are humanoids with scarab shaped heads that sapient while the males are just big beetles with the intelligence of a beetle. Which is to say none. On the other hand there's mosquito people where the males are tiny shriveled little scholar dudes and the females are rampaging vampiric monsters. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Mar 3, 2019 |
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Mar 3, 2019 19:07
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FreudianSlippers posted:The BasLag books have the reverse. A species where the females are humanoids with scarab shaped heads that sapient while the males are just big beetles with the intelligence of a beetle. Which is to say none. The only thing Mieville hates more than stale genre conventions is capitalism.
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Tree Bucket posted:The only thing Mieville hates more than stale genre conventions is capitalism. and not being a sexpest
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Mar 7, 2019 00:26
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Wikipedia and French Guiana: An Essay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LMG_%26_CoD.png  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dassault_Mirage_III_Operators.png  Compare and Contrast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Summer_olympics_all_cities.PNG  VS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Winter_olympics_all_cities.PNG 
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Mar 7, 2019 01:11
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French Guiana Libre! 
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Mar 7, 2019 05:07
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Forget Guiana, I’m fascinated by Schrödinger‘s Amazon Delta which according to these maps is simultaneously a peninsula or a single big island off the coast while in reality being neither
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Mar 7, 2019 09:21
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System Metternich posted:Forget Guiana, I’m fascinated by Schrödinger‘s Amazon Delta which according to these maps is simultaneously a peninsula or a single big island off the coast while in reality being neither https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maraj%F3 is real. This is just a bad attempt to show it
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Mar 7, 2019 17:14
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Can someone post the joke versions of those dialect maps that go around? Please and thank you
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Mar 7, 2019 20:42
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These ones?
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Mar 7, 2019 21:56
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YES thank you. I forgot they were a front page article
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Armacham posted:YES thank you. I forgot they were a front page article There's a front page?
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It's nice to finally see a map with Eastern Europe in the top bracket. 
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*waits for the trap to fall on the celebrating Eastern Euros*
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Kamrat posted:It's nice to finally see a map with Eastern Europe in the top bracket. Communism was good for women.
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Mar 10, 2019 01:38
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No wonder they are so poor. 
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Mar 10, 2019 01:48
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 A map of all the places ruled by the United States of America in December 1941, to scale. I almost said "at the start of America's involvement in World War II" but then Woodie Guthrie's song The Sinking of the Reuben James started blaring in my brain. Still would've been true.
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Mantis42 posted:Communism was good for women. That doesn't make sense as the correlation since a bunch of former communist countries on there are all over the place in that regard, even ones who were within the same communist state.
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Grape posted:That doesn't make sense as the correlation since a bunch of former communist countries on there are all over the place in that regard, even ones who were within the same communist state. If you average it out dividing by west/east, former eastern bloc countries are definitely ahead.
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bagual posted:If you average it out dividing by west/east, former eastern bloc countries are definitely ahead. I'm talking about within the east bloc. Or hell even just within the former USSR. Or hell hell even within the Baltic states of the former USSR.
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Not even communism can help Germany’s numbers.
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Mantis42 posted:Communism was good for women. Yes and no. I can only speak about East Germany, where the party implemented early on full legal equality between the genders, and the percentage of women studying at university as well as the percentage of women in the workforce was constantly higher than in West Germany, all the way up to 1989. Otoh the number of women in leadership positions was minuscule both in the East and in the West (the SED Politbüro had exactly two female members throughout its history, both of them without voting rights), and a wide gender pay gap existed on both sides of the wall as well. While many West German women didn’t work because there was no need to (cultural reasons notwithstanding), the East German system forced both men and women into the workforce not only out of ideological reasons, but also because in most cases one salary simply wasn’t enough to support a family. Traditional domestic labour (ie child rearing, house cleaning, cooking etc) was still firmly a women’s job, however, so effectively many or even most women in the GDR were working two full-time jobs at once. Regarding the map: might it be that those numbers also reflect the effects of brain drain? Iirc it’s mostly men who migrate elsewhere in search of better opportunities, whereas women tend to stay home. Maybe the higher percentage of women scientists is a consequence of that?
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Judging from the Iberian peninsula, it looks like Franco and Salazar were good for women, too. Who would have guessed?System Metternich posted:Regarding the map: might it be that those numbers also reflect the effects of brain drain? Iirc it’s mostly men who migrate elsewhere in search of better opportunities, whereas women tend to stay home. Maybe the higher percentage of women scientists is a consequence of that? That's an interesting hypothesis, because it would not only decrease the proportion of men in poorer countries but also increase it in the better off countries. Though the UK still has a rather good score with 38.6% and with Oxbridge has the most prestigious and attractive universities in Europe. While looking for evidence for or against this hypothesis, I discovered that the program to attract researchers in Belgium is literally named BEWARE, like they're warning people not to actually come.
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System Metternich posted:Regarding the map: might it be that those numbers also reflect the effects of brain drain? Iirc it’s mostly men who migrate elsewhere in search of better opportunities, whereas women tend to stay home. Maybe the higher percentage of women scientists is a consequence of that?
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Mantis42 posted:Communism was good for women. I wouldn't go that far. As SM said, socialist policies successfully increased labor participation rates in traditionally woman dominated professions, but there was no real concept of gender equality like in the west. Women just had to work a full time job in addition to their traditional role in society. To this day, the further east you go in Europe the more hosed up and backwards gender relations get(with exceptions of course). Having said that, there were a couple of issues were the socialist states were truly more progressive than the West like abortion or divorce rights, but this was probably more due to not having to pander to religious interests when making laws and policies. Also, I'm kinda sceptical about that map. Any map that shows truly progressive countries like Sweden behind developing countries like Turkey makes me squirm. There might be something funny going on with the methodology, for example, how different countries define research positions
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Once true equality has been achiever, like in Germany or Holland, will gravitate back towards their true interests, hoovering and looking pretty for their mans
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I wonder if it's an older cultural issue. In America (and, I assume, Western Europe as well) women have traditionally been systematically discouraged from entering or even being interested in the maths and sciences from elementary school right through to highschool and beyond, instead being herded into the arts and humanities. Is the issue flipped in the green countries?
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Opferwurst posted:Also, I'm kinda sceptical about that map. Any map that shows truly progressive countries like Sweden behind developing countries like Turkey makes me squirm. There might be something funny going on with the methodology, for example, how different countries define research positions Yeah, I kind of wonder about the methodology and if they are only looking at STEM fields, because as far as I know there are plenty of fields in Western Europe that are dominated by women rather than by men (psychology, for example). Even if that's the case and they're only looking at the 'hard' sciences, that's still a noteworthy achievement for the green countries.
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Green country goon here. First of all, life sciences are considered women’s fields here and all the talented men are herded into more technical fields such as computer science, engineering and similar. Coincidentally, most of the research I know of in my country happens in life sciences. Lab work is also considered women’s work. Medicine is completely overtaken by female physicians aside from, of course, elite positions such as cardiac and neurological surgery. You also need to factor in the fact more women than men start higher education in EE, and more men drop out once they’ve started it.
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Green country goon here. First of all, life sciences are considered women’s fields here and all the talented men are herded into more technical fields such as computer science, engineering and similar. Coincidentally, most of the research I know of in my country happens in life sciences. Lab work is also considered women’s work. Medicine is completely overtaken by female physicians aside from, of course, elite positions such as cardiac and neurological surgery. It's the same in Western Europe, actually. Has been for a few decades now. e: when I entered college in the late 2000's, the social sciences had already been largely female for a long time...though interestingly, I majored in sociology and that was still fairly balanced, and the only ones in my class who pursued a doctorate afterwards were men. If the latter is a trend, it might explain these percentages. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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I imagine this also has to do with there being gently caress-all money in academic research in most EE countries. So men, expected to be the providers, go into private sector work instead.
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mobby_6kl posted:I imagine this also has to do with there being gently caress-all money in academic research in most EE countries. So men, expected to be the providers, go into private sector work instead. I think you're on to something here, but I think it's more due to the observed phenomenon that study disciplines become paradoxically more heavily gendered when gender equality increases in society in general. The current hypothesis is that women in countries with low gender equality pick a STEM subject because it's seen as the best way to achieve financial independence. I also surmise that it's easier to find research positions in STEM fields than, say, humanities, because there is more money going around. Together these add up to a larger proportion of researchers in being women.
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