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Overbite
Jan 24, 2004


I'm a vtuber expert
I’m betting they walk this back shortly after launch

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Hogama
Sep 3, 2011
The Gamerevolution article mentions normal checkpoints, so it sounds like it's a mix of spread out checkpoints and using Soul Tethers for discretionary in-betweens.

quote:

Wrath promises to take up a fair chunk of your time. There are secrets galore, power-ups and Soul Tethers (essentially respawn points that can be used alongside the game’s more traditional checkpoints) to find in crevasses, caves, and other hidden areas.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Digging the guns & gore.

Glagha posted:

That, or can we like... Just fuckin do autosaves? Give me some fuckin checkpoints or save points, spare me this item poo poo. Either let me save manually, or give me checkpoints.
Think I read somewhere that there will be checkpoints in addition to the Tethers.

You know, with all of these great, retro shooters coming out I really hope that Doom Eternal graduates from its predecessor's monster arena school of level design.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
That tooth gun is so fuckin gnarly

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Honestly, I wish that this didn't also copy the oldschool dark horror fantasy aesthetic. It's a bit boring.

Game looks fun, though.

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing
It's literally the Darkplaces engine so I bet you can plop down the console and type save whenever you want, or bind f6 to save quicksave.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

I know it's a minor nitpick but jumping in the water should wash the blood off the blade. Hope they fix that.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Mordja posted:

Digging the guns & gore.

Think I read somewhere that there will be checkpoints in addition to the Tethers.

You know, with all of these great, retro shooters coming out I really hope that Doom Eternal graduates from its predecessor's monster arena school of level design.

Agreed there, level design is the main thing I'd like to see them get ambitious with in Doom Eternal, since everything else is perfect. Even with them having the locked arenas thing, the level design was a big step in the right direction. I liked that the levels had enough twists, turns, optional places to jump and secrets that you even had an in-game map. It felt like the best FPS level design in a long time. But mixing up the arena formula and playing around with the possibilities would be great.

the nucas
Sep 12, 2002
the trailer says its coming from quake modding vets but the only name i've seen is in that one article saying the lead is someone called killpixel. anyone heard of this duder? curious if he's released any maps or anything.

trailer looks sick as poo poo though, i like the environment design.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

the nucas posted:

the trailer says its coming from quake modding vets but the only name i've seen is in that one article saying the lead is someone called killpixel. anyone heard of this duder? curious if he's released any maps or anything.

trailer looks sick as poo poo though, i like the environment design.

He made this unfinished but kind of cool map a couple years back. In the comments he hints he has something else in the works for which this was a dry run — guess he was right.

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost

I was getting some serious Hexen 2 vibes until it opened up into that huge swamp, and then all I wanted was to see some bunny hopping through that massive area. I really hope movement will be a big focus of the game because Dusk has set the bar pretty high, and what's on show in this video looks a bit stiff and slippery but that might just be IGN guy's inability to turn corners without running into walls. I also think saves as pickups is a great idea, fight me.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Whenever I see weird save systems I flash back to that bad Ultima Underworld successor last year where you have a Souls-like bonfire system but the game literally doesn't save progress until you beat a level which could be like 90 minutes. Just make a loving normal save system!

Vakal
May 11, 2008

al-azad posted:

Whenever I see weird save systems I flash back to that bad Ultima Underworld successor last year where you have a Souls-like bonfire system but the game literally doesn't save progress until you beat a level which could be like 90 minutes. Just make a loving normal save system!

I'm struggling to think of a worst save system than the original Crash Bandicoot's where you had to collect three tokens in order to go to a bonus level where you were given the option to save your game if you managed to complete it.

The problem is that since this bonus area was located in the middle of a stage, the game only saved your progress up to the last stage you completed. So if you managed to beat a hard level you were forced to play like 3/4 ths of another level just to get a chance to save.

The whole thing was a mess.

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
I'm really looking forward to this one, when I first checked out the Steam page I was disappointed since it said there would be no version for Linux and was quite confused since Darkplaces works fine on Linux but after reading the FAQ it seems like us and the Mac users will have to wait for early 2020 before trying this one out.

I might just buy the game and try to run it trough Proton or maybe I can even point my Darkplaces install to the Wrath folder in the meantime.

I really love the low-poly models combined with the pixelated textures, it gives me serious nostalgic feelings looking at the game, it looks like a game I would have loved to play as a younger lad. 3D Realms have been doing fine work as of late with this and Ion Maiden both looking great, I just hope they don't gently caress it up.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


anyone know if theres a hexen 2 sourceport?

koren
Sep 7, 2003

Yeah, it's called hammer of thyrion

HolyKrap
Feb 10, 2008

adfgaofdg
Or if you like using FTE for quake, it also works with hexen 2

BaconCopter
Feb 13, 2008

:coolfish:

:coolfish:
With all of the new Wrath stuff dropping today I'm not surprised this got missed, but one of the devs for Timesplitters Rewind posted this earlier today. The video shows a current build and explains a lot of what has happened behind the scenes on the project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkltJm1lWMc

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

BaconCopter posted:

With all of the new Wrath stuff dropping today I'm not surprised this got missed, but one of the devs for Timesplitters Rewind posted this earlier today. The video shows a current build and explains a lot of what has happened behind the scenes on the project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkltJm1lWMc

Completely surprised this is still going.

Surprised it actually ever got started, actually.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

the nucas posted:

the trailer says its coming from quake modding vets but the only name i've seen is in that one article saying the lead is someone called killpixel. anyone heard of this duder? curious if he's released any maps or anything.

trailer looks sick as poo poo though, i like the environment design.

Yep, he actually announced the project sneakily nearly two years ago on Doomworld.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/95047-yet-another-90s-inspired-shooter/
Unfortunately the WIP video in that thread has been deleted, so you can't compare now and then.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
New Civvie pro blood vid kinda sucked :c i was never able to get far at all in that episode and he kinda doesnt really have much too say

balls

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


koren posted:

Yeah, it's called hammer of thyrion

thank u homie i got confused when googling cause they list the linux and mac osx compatibility first so I figured it was just for those.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

verbal enema posted:

New Civvie pro blood vid kinda sucked :c i was never able to get far at all in that episode and he kinda doesnt really have much too say

balls

I think by episode 2 of pro blood he kinda said all you can about the game.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire
I'm replaying Arcane Dimensions and dang-- trying to go back to vanilla Quake levels after AD is a weird experience. Even that "5th Episode" DOPA release seems lame compared to AD levels.

Sock and his levels are a treasure.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

jeeves posted:

I'm replaying Arcane Dimensions and dang-- trying to go back to vanilla Quake levels after AD is a weird experience. Even that "5th Episode" DOPA release seems lame compared to AD levels.

Sock and his levels are a treasure.

DOPA was always lame and only hyped because MachineGames managed to land a half decent Wolfenstein revival.

Vakal
May 11, 2008

verbal enema posted:

New Civvie pro blood vid kinda sucked :c i was never able to get far at all in that episode and he kinda doesnt really have much too say

balls

Both episode 5 and cryptic passages were not really that great to begin with.

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only

Lemon-Lime posted:

Honestly, I wish that this didn't also copy the oldschool dark horror fantasy aesthetic. It's a bit boring.

Game looks fun, though.

People been asking for Quake to return this for ages and then we get it and now it's inexplicably not what they want.
Gamers.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

Vakal posted:

Both episode 5 and cryptic passages were not really that great to begin with.

Wasnt a big Cryptic Passage fan but i remember dad coming home with those expansions in their boxes oh man i was ready for some nostalgia

Instead i saw Civvie play some really bad maps full of enemies dude had 3k kills at the end of the episode

the nucas
Sep 12, 2002
i'd love the weird techno gothic horror of quake but this will fit the bill for sure. its not like we have a glut of this, do we? that witchfire game looked like a decent fit whenever it comes out in like 5 years or whatever but otherwise..?

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

the nucas posted:

i'd love the weird techno gothic horror of quake but this will fit the bill for sure. its not like we have a glut of this, do we? that witchfire game looked like a decent fit whenever it comes out in like 5 years or whatever but otherwise..?
Speaking of Witchfire, the developers have been posting weekly updates for a while about their progress. It's a nice look at how the sausage is made! It's still a heck of a long ways off, mind...

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

jeeves posted:

I'm replaying Arcane Dimensions and dang-- trying to go back to vanilla Quake levels after AD is a weird experience. Even that "5th Episode" DOPA release seems lame compared to AD levels.

Sock and his levels are a treasure.

I spent about 70 minutes last night trying to do everything in the Forgotten Sepulchre in AD and I got 15 god drat secrets out of 50. The map is nuts

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

i beat dusk

holy gently caress that was a good game

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

This is gonna out me as a horribly shallow person, but I find Dusk so aesthetically unappealing I've yet to give it a shot

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Diabetes Forecast posted:

People been asking for Quake to return this for ages and then we get it and now it's inexplicably not what they want.
Gamers.

I'm not one of the people asking for Quake to return.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

anatomi posted:

This is gonna out me as a horribly shallow person, but I find Dusk so aesthetically unappealing I've yet to give it a shot

i thought it looked garbage in every screenshot i saw (those weapon models lmao) but actually playing it for myself, it really comes together and works out as a genuinely great and creepy aesthetic

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

Overwatch Porn posted:

i thought it looked garbage in every screenshot i saw (those weapon models lmao) but actually playing it for myself, it really comes together and works out as a genuinely great and creepy aesthetic
Well, alright—that tips me over the edge!

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


the weapon models are trash but the game is a seriously impressive piece of work.

the fact it still works in a time when those graphics look cheesy and old is amazing, i wonder how people would have responded to it in the era when those graphics were cutting edge

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

DoomRL Arsenal updated after 4 years. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044 It now has ingame documentation so you can play it without having a wiki open and the wad open in Slade for all the poo poo the wiki's wrong about.

dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Mar 8, 2019

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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Dusk also definitely seems like it's one thing at first and ends up being another. When the first things I saw were all farms, cows, scarecrows and cultists and poo poo I thought it was going to be dumb, but it goes some real interesting places thematically the deeper you get in.

Also even in the farm parts the gameplay is good.

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Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Yes, the game improves in level design and in atmosphere later.

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