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Seven Hundred Bee posted:because the aliens didn't take 'modern' form until alien: covenant Here's something I'm calling because I think Scott has planned this out... David himself will become the official progenitor of the "classic" Alien. Because, if you look at the Xenomorph in Covenant it lacks the piping of the classic Xeno. Its limbs are smooth and sinewy. Its not as "bio-mechanical" as the one from the first film, so I think they'll pull some kind of "David isn't fully robotic and is some kind of biological/android construct" and that's where the classic Xeno look will come from.
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The music in Prometheus was so bad and then in Covenant David is playing the theme song on his flute. lol Covenant music was decent though from what I remember.
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Drunken Baker posted:The music in Prometheus was so bad and then in Covenant David is playing the theme song on his flute. lol My sister and I turned and laughed together a good hearty laugh when the David's were playing a recorder together. No one in the theater cared or told us to shut up.
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Owlbear Camus posted:You're gonna have a good time. I did in fact have a good time. Agreed on the Hadley's Hope scenes, everything else was fine though.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I dunno, I think there are good Alien stories left, but they don't involve Ripley and they don't involve some kind of overarching mythology. This. One of the biggest problems with movie franchises is the need to connect every loving thing back to the original good movies. I don't need the hero of the movie to be Ripley's grand nice who inexplicably meets and falls in love with Orin Hicks who joined the colonial marines like his hero great uncle did.
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RossMan4Life posted:Do the chest bursters and face huggers have variants like the final form had in AVP? Like would a face hugger just punch through an eye if the host didn't have an orifice out in the open? I am fully convinced that FaceHuggers are only known as FaceHuggers because we've only ever seen them laying eggs down peoples throats. It's just that the face of the host was always the most readily accessible orifice, and generally facing the direction of the FaceHugger when it attacked. I believe, that if presented the opportunity, say, like a FaceHugger was hiding in the toilet, it would be more than happy to latch on and lay it's eggs in the hosts rear end. Also... 
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Jay_Zombie posted:I believe, that if presented the opportunity, say, like a FaceHugger was hiding in the toilet, it would be more than happy to latch on and lay it's eggs in the hosts rear end. I know in one of the comics there was a T-Rex Xenomorph. No way a Facehugger could wrap around its maw. So either it laid an egg in its rear end or up its piss hole. This theory passes the test imho.
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Drunken Baker posted:I know in one of the comics there was a T-Rex Xenomorph. No way a Facehugger could wrap around its maw. So either it laid an egg in its rear end or up its piss hole. This theory passes the test imho.  AND its peehole. As the ancestors of birds, dinosaurs almost certainly had cloacas.Also in this scenario the t-rex alien emerged as an assburster
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Smiling Mandrill posted:This. One of the biggest problems with movie franchises is the need to connect every loving thing back to the original good movies. I don't need the hero of the movie to be Ripley's grand nice who inexplicably meets and falls in love with Orin Hicks who joined the colonial marines like his hero great uncle did. Imagine who are the type of people who fill movie test audiences. They love that poo poo. Same reason Taco Bell does all of their new food testing in Ohio.
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Smiling Mandrill posted:This. One of the biggest problems with movie franchises is the need to connect every loving thing back to the original good movies. I don't need the hero of the movie to be Ripley's grand nice who inexplicably meets and falls in love with Orin Hicks who joined the colonial marines like his hero great uncle did. A Hundred Years of Solitude and Aliens
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My headcanon for the xenomorphs is the AvP comics explanation: the xenomorphs just existed, the Predators discovered them and went on to seed countless worlds with their eggs so they could hunt them. Simple, explains everything, contradicts nothing. But Ridley of course has never been told his ideas are bad so here we are with dumb convoluted prequel poo poo.
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I was thinking as a read this what happen to the first queen from the first movie is she still drifting in space??
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I was rather content knowing nothing. The only explanation needed is Ash's: Parker : That's bullshit. Ash : You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility. Lambert : You admire it. Ash : I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
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Dynastocles posted:My headcanon for the xenomorphs is the AvP comics explanation: the xenomorphs just existed, the Predators discovered them and went on to seed countless worlds with their eggs so they could hunt them. Simple, explains everything, contradicts nothing. It's a better idea because then we could see the hell world that would cause the xenomorphs to evolve. What sort of predators did they face that required they evolve loving acid blood?
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The alien doesn’t need to be explained, its origins should be unknowable, and Aliens pushes the explanation about as far as it can go (there’s a big one that shits out the little ones) without making it silly as gently caress like Promo/Covenant or AVP. Though personally I think the lifecycle depicted in Alien is much more elegant and creepy: one facehugger makes one alien larva, which grows up and cocoons an animal before impregnating it with another embryonic facehugger as it melts into a protective eggcase. No big obvious weak point to shoot full of grenades, if a single alien has enough fauna to rape it can breed a thousand more.
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What's the best Alien game, AVP 2 (2002), or Alien Isolation?
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Jay_Zombie posted:
I remembered this scene but had forgotten that they literally got John Hurt to do the cameo.
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skasion posted:The alien doesn’t need to be explained, its origins should be unknowable, and Aliens pushes the explanation about as far as it can go (there’s a big one that shits out the little ones) without making it silly as gently caress like Promo/Covenant or AVP. Though personally I think the lifecycle depicted in Alien is much more elegant and creepy: one facehugger makes one alien larva, which grows up and cocoons an animal before impregnating it with another embryonic facehugger as it melts into a protective eggcase. No big obvious weak point to shoot full of grenades, if a single alien has enough fauna to rape it can breed a thousand more. Yeah mystery is good. The more you explain something, the less scary it is. I'd rather speculate on whether the Alien is a bioweapon or a natural organism. Fun to imagine.
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Jay_Zombie posted:I am fully convinced that FaceHuggers are only known as FaceHuggers because we've only ever seen them laying eggs down peoples throats. It's just that the face of the host was always the most readily accessible orifice, and generally facing the direction of the FaceHugger when it attacked. You all are very right that Aliens was a great movie and a cinematic high water mark for practical effects. But I'm watching Spaceballs tonight!
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so this is kinda ot but Ridley scott directing this crazy commercial for hennessy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ruuTs134k The guy hosed up my favorite movie series but god drat he is good at visuals.
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Smiling Mandrill posted:This. One of the biggest problems with movie franchises is the need to connect every loving thing back to the original good movies. I don't need the hero of the movie to be Ripley's grand nice who inexplicably meets and falls in love with Orin Hicks who joined the colonial marines like his hero great uncle did. This is true. The thing connecting every movie can just be the aliens. They could have episodic stuff that isn't connected and they can really do whatever they want. I'd of course love to see another confrontation between the xenomorphs and marines. Hollywood would never allow this or anything even remotely close to it in any form.
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Jay_Zombie posted:Also... A goon made this one. I always laugh when I see it. Ash at the end lol. https://i.imgur.com/toB5u9G.gifv Yip yip.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:A goon made this one. I always laugh when I see it. Ash at the end lol. That is pure gold.
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Btw the artwork of older Ripley and one eyed Hicks was badass
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Pennywise the Frown posted:A goon made this one. I always laugh when I see it. Ash at the end lol. Holy poo poo that is perfect.
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skasion posted:The alien doesn’t need to be explained, its origins should be unknowable, and Aliens pushes the explanation about as far as it can go (there’s a big one that shits out the little ones) without making it silly as gently caress like Promo/Covenant or AVP. Though personally I think the lifecycle depicted in Alien is much more elegant and creepy: one facehugger makes one alien larva, which grows up and cocoons an animal before impregnating it with another embryonic facehugger as it melts into a protective eggcase. No big obvious weak point to shoot full of grenades, if a single alien has enough fauna to rape it can breed a thousand more.
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gonna rewatch Aliens DC and Alien 3 Assembly cut over the next few days. for kicks I also reread some of the mediocre alien novels I read as a kid. alien: rogue would make a decent movie.
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Splicer posted:These are not mutually contradictory! All we know from Aliens is that a mature colony can contain a giant fuckoff near unkillable super alien that can poop out stockpiles of eggs like an assembly line. How hard or easy it is to get to that, whether that's the end game of a colony of just something that happens under certain circumstances etc, that's all up in the air. it makes them thematically a lot less scary if they're just giant murder ants tho, the Aliens aliens are absolutely less a horrifying unfathomable demon and more something that would've been a slightly dangerous nuisance if not for Gorman and W-Y actively loving everything up A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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Pennywise the Frown posted:So this is just a reminder that Aliens is one of the best movies ever made. Don't even try to argue that. I like the idea of putting my Aliens (Directors Cut) on the TV on repeat. Doing it. And yeah that automatic targeting computer controlled gun thing should have been in the original. It's intense. I remember one time I was with my friend at Maccas (McDonalds) and he had a vanilla shake. He put his head on the table and let the white liquid dribble out of his mouth and said "Not bad for a human." I nearly choked from laughing so much.
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Splicer posted:These are not mutually contradictory! All we know from Aliens is that a mature colony can contain a giant fuckoff near unkillable super alien that can poop out stockpiles of eggs like an assembly line. How hard or easy it is to get to that, whether that's the end game of a colony of just something that happens under certain circumstances etc, that's all up in the air. I tend to go with the explanation that some of the books use which is that a drone can - if not in the presence of a queen - morph into a queen to start a new colony. It's elegant, there's precedence for it, and it's all the explanation that is necessary. Predators seeding planets for hunts is a neat little side add-on, but like others have said outside of specific "biology" stuff there's no reason to explain where they came from. They don't need to be a creation myth. A Wizard of Goatse posted:it makes them thematically a lot less scary if they're just giant murder ants tho, the Aliens aliens are absolutely less a horrifying unfathomable demon and more something that would've been a slightly dangerous nuisance if not for Gorman and W-Y actively loving everything up I think it makes them different scary, tbh. The complete alien-ness of the creature from the original movie is basically obliterated by the second film for sure, but the giant murder ants are scary in their own way, especially when you get into some of the EU stuff where they're decimating units not led by fuckups like Gorman
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Here's a dumb opinion, I like the first AvP way more than requiem.
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i thought AvP: requiem was bad because the characters were killed off too quickly. what makes aliens good is you get invested into the dynamics of the marines and then they get killed, not just randomly introducing them and killing them off within minutes. also none of the characters in requiem react appropriately to literally hundreds of people being ripped apart around them.
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I mean, the first AvP was way closer to what the AvP comics were like than Requiem. It’s not exactly a bad take, considering both movies were pretty bad. I only like Requiem cause it has that dope scene where the dad gets loving wrecked as he’s peering through the sliding glass door.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Here's a dumb opinion, I like the first AvP way more than requiem. This isn’t a dumb opinion at all. AVP is clumsy in execution (PG13 Alien movie? PG13 Predator movie? Lmao) on top of the whole idea being dumb, but it’s a fun dumb. It’s essentially one big crackpot pastiche of “At the Mountains of Madness” and it’s hard to go all the way wrong with that premise. Requiem is a terrible movie with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, there’s really nothing worse to say about it than that it looks like complete poo poo despite being conceived and directed by two special effects guys.
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any alien movie is improved by 75% by not. casting. loving. lance. henriksen.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:HBO needs to make a sick aliens series. I would love to see this, but at the same time, I wouldn't. If it were like, a high budget 5 part series, where some marines or a science team get marooned on a planet while checking out a research station that dropped communication, and the story arc was all the things that happened while they were trying to get off the planet, over the span of like a week or something, then yeah, that would be cool. But I can't see it being something that runs for multiple seasons without it turning into the Walking Dead: Alien Edition.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:any alien movie is improved by 75% by not. casting. loving. lance. henriksen. Where the gently caress did this cspam mod take come from?
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