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echinopsis posted:the alphabet poo poo has been quite enlightening and i’m glad english has hosed up grammar and inconsistent pronounciation rather than dealing with weird looking letters hangul's fuckin great, shut up
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i thought hangul had really logical and cool looking letters tho? (idk i never learned it)
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is it korean which is the only “designed” language?
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mandarin has a different letter for every single word in their language
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did you quit drinking yet echi
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echinopsis posted:mandarin has a different letter for every single word in their language nope
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it’s more complicated than that
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Lutha Mahtin posted:did you quit drinking yet echi i’ve significantly decreased my alcohol intake this year and am currently aggressively sober (because I am at work)
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general rule : don’t drink when at home
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a chinese character represents a single syllable, and pretty much always has a meaning on its own as a word. but a majority of words have two syllables, and thus two characters, and some have more than that. and then some characters have been merged into one so today you have some single characters that represent more than one word, and which word it means depends on context
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fart simpson posted:a chinese character represents a single syllable, and pretty much always has a meaning on its own as a word. but a majority of words have two syllables, and thus two characters, and some have more than that. and then some characters have been merged into one so today you have some single characters that represent more than one word, and which word it means depends on context 너무 복잡하다 좀 더 간단하게 해라
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and then there’s some words that have one character and one meaning but different pronunciations for some reason? like 血 means blood but it can be pronounced in two different ways and afaict you just pick which way you wanna use it
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echinopsis posted:general rule : don’t drink when at home good poo poo, op
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fart simpson posted:and then there’s some words that have one character and one meaning but different pronunciations for some reason? like 血 means blood but it can be pronounced in two different ways and afaict you just pick which way you wanna use it like tomatoe and tomayto
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i’ve been playing assassins creed origins and so i’m a bit of an expert in highroglyphics and I think most languages could also benefit with the addition of people doing that walk like an egyptian letter
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𓂸 𓂹 𓂺
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echinopsis posted:is it korean which is the only “designed” language? excuse me but i am fluent in both klingon and sindarin, and furthermore,
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pseudorandom name posted:also keep in mind that OS X has a case-insensitive Unicode normalized file system, but it doesn't store any kind of case folding table or deal with the fact that the Unicode normalization algorithm has changed with every revision of the spec this seems bad from a keep-poo poo-working-into-the-future perspective
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tim cook: 🤷♂️
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tim cook : not doing our job on the language front? check this out mates ... *releases new pedofile emoji in the LGBTA emoji group, with 4 hair colour opinions*
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are you okay friend
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:"chateau" is also a cool word because it falls into my favorite bucket of loan-words: words borrowed from french twice, with different meanings my favourite is suit vs suite
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see also danish boulevard from the french, who borrowed it from old germanic bollwerk whence also old norse bolvirki and modern danish bolværk (bulwark in english)
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Krankenstyle posted:see also danish boulevard from the french, who borrowed it from old germanic bollwerk whence also old norse bolvirki and modern danish bolværk (bulwark in english) okay, ill post it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
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speaking of tim cook: his recent twitter name change to "tim <apple logo>" using a codepoint in the Private Use Area showcased some topical unicode fun. on huawei phones, the apple logo instead renders as a tibetan glyph: https://twitter.com/FakeUnicode/status/1103827658373132293 because in china, it's legally mandated to put precomposed variants of tibetan glyphs in that range. which huawei does, of course. please consider any potential geopolitical and legal issues before comparing strings for equality. thank.
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echinopsis posted:tim cook : not doing our job on the language front? check this out mates ... *releases new pedofile emoji in the LGBTA emoji group, with 4 hair colour opinions* don't do this thanks
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http://yosefk.com/blog/its-done-in-hardware-so-its-cheap.html > Leaving aside the question of what "high-level language" means (I really don't find it obvious at all, but never mind), object-orientation and dynamic typing frequently result in indirection: pointers instead of values and pointers to pointers instead of pointers. Sometimes it's done for no apparent reason – for instance, Erlang strings that are kept as linked lists of ints. (Why do people even like linked lists as "the" data structure and head/tail recursion as "the" control structure? But I digress.) is this true? lol
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Suspicious Dish posted:http://yosefk.com/blog/its-done-in-hardware-so-its-cheap.html sort of. it's technically true that if you put `"hello world"` in an erlang source file you'll get a linked list of integers as a result, but the string type everyone actually uses in erlang and elixir is called a binary and it's a contiguous segment of bytes or a pointer to one (for large binaries or ones that are shared with another process)
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the talent deficit posted:sort of. it's technically true that if you put `"hello world"` in an erlang source file you'll get a linked list of integers as a result, but the string type everyone actually uses in erlang and elixir is called a binary and it's a contiguous segment of bytes or a pointer to one (for large binaries or ones that are shared with another process) default string being linked lists is a scourge of functional langs. same in haskell.
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lomarf
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do the major functional languages do things like cdr-coding by default and just present the list abstraction, or do they use literal singly linked lists?
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what does your heart tell you
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my heart tells me they're languages made by academics high on their own farts
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people bitch about academics, but the thing is there's no funding to work on designing libraries. like, the biggest problem in PL research is how to design the standard library's string types, but this is unacknowledged and totally unfunded, and so of course nobody works on it. it's not like the people behind Haskell's Prelude String type are proud of it, they're like "gently caress you, pay me"
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it kind of sounds like how null came about. like they've already implemented lists, and haven't done any string ops, and are like "hey maybe i can stick type String = List[Char]" in there until I've done it properly why not
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lmao if your most fundamental datatype wasn't designed immediately after reading the first 10 pages of the Okasaki data structures book
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Dijkstracula posted:lmao if your most fundamental datatype wasn't designed immediately after reading the first 10 pages of the Okasaki data structures book i have this on my shelf. never done more than skim it ofc
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gonadic io posted:i have this on my shelf. never done more than skim it ofc
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gonadic io posted:i have this on my shelf. never done more than skim it ofc I read most of it at some point, and IIRC the various heaps in it were pretty cool (esp. because I had only seen the CS 101 heap before).
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