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genocide is murder of a people, attacking their identity and suppressing their language etc you could genocide a minority simply by stealing all their children at birth and banning anyone from learning the language, for example - after a generation, that people is no more. it's kind of old-fashioned nowadays because it's much easier to just chase people off and let them so their thing Somewhere Else hence why the holocaust was a genocide, and hence why some people quibble about whether the armenian massacres technically constitute an attempt at genocide(they do)
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Squalid posted:whatever happened I'm sure we could all agree it would be a lot easier to resolve all these problems if Pakistan stopped protecting and arming Indian al Qaeda on their border at least? Pakistan are essentially a parasitic entity exploiting a situation that is presently largely of India's making. If the Kashmiri Muslims weren't getting raped every thirty seconds, they'd be a lot less interested in the standard state-sponsored terrorism export package from their friends across the border. Basically, you can believe that Pakistan is bad and that Kashmir probably needs to be free.
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Did Pakistan shelter Osama bin Laden because India rapes Muslims too? Is that why they have armed and provided logistical support to the Taliban for the past three decades? During the 1971 war, is that why West Pakistan tried to genocide and rape East Pakistan? If India is so bad to Muslims, why are there still more Muslims in India than in either East or West Pakistan? e: NICE. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...e-idUSKCN1QO0LP Oh no, Pakistan is starting to arrest Muslims and shut down religious schools!! Won't someone think of the islamists?? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-idUSKCN1QO0T1 svenkatesh fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Mar 7, 2019 |
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Being realistic India really needs to just give up the 90% Muslim areas of Kashmir, ie the Kashmir Valley. Whatever about Jammu and Ladakh, where the demographics are more favourable, India is never going to be able to hold an area with that significant a Muslim majority, on the Pakistan border, peacefully. Especially not when their occupying troops are so rape and general crime inclined. Give the population a UN monitored self determination plebiscite and let them go on their way.
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Mar 7, 2019 13:58
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svenkatesh posted:Did Pakistan shelter Osama bin Laden because India rapes Muslims too? Is that why they have armed and provided logistical support to the Taliban for the past three decades? During the 1971 war, is that why West Pakistan tried to genocide and rape East Pakistan? I don't think anyone on this board is pro-Pakistan but every time you post you convince people to take an anti-India stance. In support of your own obvious agenda you really need to consider how you're coming across and damaging your own arguments each time you say something.
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Mar 7, 2019 14:45
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My dude, on the one hand I'm not doing a good job representing dharmic interests. On the other hand, it doesnt matter. The West loves countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. It always has, it always will. It's outright weird how defensive the West is of Sunnis. For context, I have no problem with Iran. No Persian ever tried to suicide vest me
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Mar 7, 2019 15:01
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svenkatesh posted:If India is so bad to Muslims, why are there still more Muslims in India than in either East or West Pakistan? By this logic the southern US must be the best place for black people to live, since there's more of them there vs the other regions of the county. You don't need a passport to move from Mississippi to Montana, after all.
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Mar 7, 2019 15:34
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I didn't say that India was the best place for Muslims. If the southern US was really horrendous to blacks they would move to the North. Or to Liberia, a country created as a safe haven for African Americans (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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svenkatesh posted:Did Pakistan shelter Osama bin Laden because India rapes Muslims too? Is that why they have armed and provided logistical support to the Taliban for the past three decades? During the 1971 war, is that why West Pakistan tried to genocide and rape East Pakistan? Congratulations on completely failing to read my post and screaming into the void about Pakistan, I guess.
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Mar 7, 2019 15:48
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The point, since you seem to have weak comprehension, is that Kashmir is a really weak excuse given the history of Islamic terrorism.
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Mar 7, 2019 15:53
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reignonyourparade posted:'Deliberate act to destroy a people, in whole or in part' does not say anything about killing being part of that. I guess sterilizing a people would be killing them off without actually killing them so technically correct, I guess. Now in practice find me the genocide that didn't have killing.
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svenkatesh posted:My dude, on the one hand I'm not doing a good job representing dharmic interests. On the other hand, it doesnt matter. You're actually a crazy bigot
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svenkatesh posted:My dude, on the one hand I'm not doing a good job representing dharmic interests. On the other hand, it doesnt matter. What do you think Shia Kashmiris think about independence? That's a rhetorical question I already looked up the answer and they want it almost as bad as the Sunnis, just as long as it isn't under IS. svenkatesh I don't know why your heart is so full of hate, maybe there's something personal in your history, but the hate has twisted your countenance into an ugly mask. As long as Indians allow their reactions to be driven by the spite and pettiness you've evinced in this thread, it is hard not to conclude that Kashmiris have no choice but to fight for independence. I don't ever see independence happening realistically, so instead there's just going to be pointless violence and expense and waste and lives destroyed.
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Mar 7, 2019 16:03
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svenkatesh posted:If the southern US was really horrendous to blacks they would move to the North. Or to Liberia, a country created as a safe haven for African Americans Just want to re iterate that svenkatesh actually posted this. There is no need to continue arguing with him.
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Mar 7, 2019 16:57
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svenkatesh posted:If the southern US was really horrendous to blacks they would move to the North. Or to Liberia, a country created as a safe haven for African Americans  Boy howdy you've got a real poor understanding of race relations in the US, how hard it can be to just move your life across a country, AND the country of Liberia.
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Checking his rap sheet, Sven has previously attempted to defend Assad's mass prisoner executions and China's concentration camps. We've got a real charmer here.
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Mar 7, 2019 18:17
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svenkatesh posted:I didn't say that India was the best place for Muslims. Look at this post.
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Mar 7, 2019 19:14
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I support Kashmiri independence now.
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I support an independence of South Asian talk from this thread.
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Mar 7, 2019 21:58
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Even Saudi Arabia, the guardians of the Haraam, support China's deradicalization program. Please stop calling them concentration camps. The only thing they're concentrating on is stopping Islamist violence
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Grouchio posted:I support an independence of South Asian talk from this thread. We have an India Pakistan / S Asia Catchall thread right now! It's pretty okay!
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svenkatesh posted:Even Saudi Arabia, the guardians of the Haraam, support China's deradicalization program. Are you loving making GBS threads me? Go gently caress yourself, you racist dullard.
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svenkatesh posted:I didn't say that India was the best place for Muslims. Get the gently caress out of this thread already you stupid bigot
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HootTheOwl posted:I guess sterilizing a people would be killing them off without actually killing them so technically correct, I guess. The Canadian practice of forcibly removing native children from their families? Genocide is the attempted destruction of an identity, murder might be the most straightforward way to accomplish that but there are plenty of other ways to do it.
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I support the mods annexing svenkatesh's account.
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A big flaming stink posted:The Canadian practice of forcibly removing native children from their families? Genocide is the attempted destruction of an identity, murder might be the most straightforward way to accomplish that but there are plenty of other ways to do it. That was brought up and had (and continues to have) plenty of killing as well
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Don't think we've had someone flame out this hard in this thread since Liberal_L33t.
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Squalid posted:I remember the thread you made after your trip! You had a lot of good pictures. I'm no expert but probably that thread and the resulting discussion is responsible for most of what I know about Kashmir, at least the little I remember. Yeah, I was only in the valley. I have a long story about trying to go into the mountains and being surrounded by a mob of angry villagers...but ultimately the roads were just impassable because "4x4" means nothing when it's written on an Indian SUV. Another thing I didn't mention was electrical power. There's plenty of hydro - but from what I understood power was diverted away from the valley south so there were only ~6-12 hours of electricity a day in most places in the valley. Again this was 2009, I hope things have changed.
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svenkatesh posted:I didn't say that India was the best place for Muslims. What a surprise that the guy who is insanely racist and dismissive towards pakistanis is also insanely racist and dismissive towards black americans
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svenkatesh posted:If the southern US was really horrendous to blacks they would move to the North. Or to Liberia, a country created as a safe haven for African Americans 420 Gank Mid posted:What a surprise that the guy who is insanely racist and dismissive towards pakistanis is also insanely racist and dismissive towards black americans I have a hard time believing anyone seriousposting would throw out moving to Liberia as a solution to civil injustice.
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Delta-Wye posted:I have a hard time believing anyone seriousposting would throw out moving to Liberia as a solution to civil injustice. It's seriousposting, but it's not sincereposting. Dude was just frantically deflecting away from his transparently obvious lust for Muslim genocide. You see it a lot when Nazis who are trying to fit in get called out - they're so blinded by entitled rage that they can't even muster a decent defence even if they know they should. Speaking of, a month and no ban seems a little light for a repeated genocide apologist. Like, Is this really a useful contributor to the site we want to keep around?
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-06/trump-cancels-u-s-report-on-civilian-deaths-in-drone-strikes "Trump Cancels U.S. Report on Civilian Deaths in Drone Strikes" Well great. I guess all those pesky war crimes didn't look so good in the light of day
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Darth Walrus posted:Speaking of, a month and no ban seems a little light for a repeated genocide apologist. Like, Is this really a useful contributor to the site we want to keep around?
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Flayer posted:Echo chamber not echoing enough for you is it? The guy is a loving moron but don't start calling for people to be banned because you don't like their politics. Having your viewpoints challenged is healthy.
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Flayer posted:Echo chamber not echoing enough for you is it? The guy is a loving moron but don't start calling for people to be banned because you don't like their politics. Having your viewpoints challenged is healthy. Me (an idiot) Genocide and war apologia should be shunned and given no platform for debate. You (an intellectual) Actually genocide and wsr apologia is part of a complete and nutritious conversation
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Flayer posted:Echo chamber not echoing enough for you is it? The guy is a loving moron but don't start calling for people to be banned because you don't like their politics. Having your viewpoints challenged is healthy. Are you loving kidding me with this post ahahahahahaha Imagine walking into 2019 D&D with pretty much literally "guys we need to debate the nazis! Not silence them!"
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"Ok so you've referred to the Tutsis as "cockroaches". Strong words there. But let's analyze this a bit before we leap to hysterics. Why that particular insect and not say.... a mosquito? Or perhaps fruit fly?"
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I'm going to rate this thread a 5 for the last few pages alone, love me some genocide and concentration camp support And a dude came to his defense saying we should debate him instead of ban him holy shiiit is this the real life The SA forums must never die Regarding India and Pakistan I just wanna say that I'm in Dubai so if a war breaks out there's gonna be a civil war here
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I lived in Dubai during the Kargil war, nothing really happened. There was some fighting in the local universities and between kids in some neighborhoods that I can remember. Life is hard enough for expats front the subcontinent there without adding a war to the mix.
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Frond posted:I support Kashmiri independence now.
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