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CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

i volunteered for a bit and the jobcenter paid for my NVQ and i used that to get into temping, which i eventually used towards full employment in the NHS. then after being there a few years i became a steward so i can gob off to managers. i'm having a real good time.

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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

why hello there friend I can recommend a food service job

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

Theft

E: oh wait you said no skills. Hmmm. This one's a brainer

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

Working in care is good.

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

My brother got some sort of security guard license and now works at Tesco, and has met "Every shithead in Kings Lynn".

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

CoolCab posted:

i volunteered for a bit and the jobcenter paid for my NVQ and i used that to get into temping, which i eventually used towards full employment in the NHS. then after being there a few years i became a steward so i can gob off to managers. i'm having a real good time.

Hmm I might have to poke what's left of the welfare state to see if there's a qualification in it somewhere. If they can get me a forklift license or a CSCS card I can probably get myself into a job around here.

Gonzo McFee posted:

Working in care is good.

Really? I've heard it's horribly underpaid and the conditions are stressful. I guess there's the warm fuzzy feeling of knowing that you helped.


I don't have the mathematical mind for the financial sector.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Forklift operation is black magic and frankly if you manage to get a license for one I'd probably trust you to do most minor surgeries.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

yaffle posted:

My brother got some sort of security guard license and now works at Tesco, and has met "Every shithead in Kings Lynn".
Can confirm that security work requires only basic human skills and is an excellent way to meet shitheads.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Gonzo McFee posted:

Working in care is good.

don't get me wrong it is an unambiguous net good and i salute the poo poo out of anyone able to do it but i wouldn't work in a care home if they paid me in diamonds and rubies. i delivered furniture there a few times and holy poo poo it's the most soul wrenching thing.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

Traditionally, have rich parents.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Same. Granny grappling is something that requires a much more durable brain than I have.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

OwlFancier posted:

Same. Granny grappling is something that requires a much more durable brain than I have.

are we still talking about care

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

are we still talking about care

Pro Wrestling

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

Call Centre

You can advance fairly quickly without qualifications if you aren't a dick, have decent interpersonal skills, and can put up with members of the public screaming at you for 7.5 hours a day.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as Azza (except a year younger) and, with the best will in the world, I absolutely can't even consider going into care work. I'd be a wreck within days.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

keep punching joe posted:

Call Centre

You can advance fairly quickly without qualifications if you aren't a dick, have decent interpersonal skills, and can put up with members of the public screaming at you for 7.5 hours a day.

yeah, plus for the right company you can do the night shift which is real cushy.

I did this for first line car insurance response (when you make the first call to your insurance company after you have a car accident) and it was a pretty sweet gig.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

keep punching joe posted:

Call Centre

You can advance fairly quickly without qualifications if you aren't a dick, have decent interpersonal skills, and can put up with members of the public screaming at you for 7.5 hours a day.

Disclaimer: You do need to have the mental fortitude to deal with a whole load of lovely people

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Rarity posted:

Disclaimer: You do need to have the mental fortitude to deal with a whole load of lovely people

I mean that's just advice for dealing with life outside your house. and sometimes within it.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

matched betting.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



yaffle posted:

My brother got some sort of security guard license and now works at Tesco, and has met "Every shithead in Kings Lynn".

That's a lot of shitheads!

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
well it's all food for thought. I was worried I'd have to get good at drawing and then start putting out naked anthros for cash.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

yaffle posted:

My brother got some sort of security guard license and now works at Tesco, and has met "Every shithead in Kings Lynn".

I can confirm that company will hire literally anyone.

They are also poo poo to work for, I used to be management for them.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

mate if I could draw I would draw soo much furry filth for cash you don't even know.

mooore than happy to facilitate people's imaginary sex weirdness for lucre.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

Find a sugar daddy/whatever-the-opposite is called.

Serious answer; Others and I have been in pretty much the same boat (excepting that I've never applied to join the military, and the two I know who did, couldn't because of medical conditions), and we all spent a long time as expolited agency workers before being lucky and landing a contract at a factory doing low-skilled work, before progressing slightly, and being given the opportunity to learn more specialised technical skills - technician/mechanic/forktruck licence, etc.

Agency work is an option, if you're desperate, though it's pretty soul crushing, disruptive, and exploitative as gently caress. There's always call centres - again though, depends on what they're representing - and you'll probably end up hating the rest of mankind - same for any kind of interaction with the general public, if you're not that sort of person. That's one of the pros of factory work, that I don't have to interact with the general public anymore after having worked in a complaints department.

Wish could be more helpful. When I was unemployed, the job centre did sweet gently caress all to help me gain any kind of long term employment, and it seems to have gotten worse/massively less "helpful", since then. :/

Azza Bamboo posted:

well it's all food for thought. I was worried I'd have to get good at drawing and then start putting out naked anthros for cash.

Cash for dog dicks is always a fallback option.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

CoolCab posted:

don't get me wrong it is an unambiguous net good and i salute the poo poo out of anyone able to do it but i wouldn't work in a care home if they paid me in diamonds and rubies. i delivered furniture there a few times and holy poo poo it's the most soul wrenching thing.

There's other places to work in than care homes. Community centres, help at home, low maintenance wards.

Plus I'm pretty numb to it now.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Azza Bamboo posted:

Pro Wrestling

tai chi

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

How much can you touch computer?

How much do you require this job to have things like "soul" and "meaning"?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pesky Splinter posted:

Cash for dog dicks
The Damian Green scandal.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


goddamnedtwisto posted:

As a matter of interest, was the OU free before all this tuition fee bullshit popped off? And more importantly will it be free in the era of Glorious Jam Socialism? I'm long past the age where a degree will have any material effect on my job prospects, but I'd really love to actually challenge myself a bit with one, but the costs are prohibitive for what would basically be a little time-filler for dull Tuesday nights.

It's hard to find info online, but it was never free. It did however cost £20 in 1971 for a full undergraduate course, had risen to £55 by 1979 and by the time Thatcher was out of office it was over £200. But the real increases happened under New Labour, before being ramped up under the coalition to the point where mature students just aren't applying to the OU anymore because it's too expensive.

Which makes it a bitter pill to swallow that it was the Right Honourable Tony Blair MP who declared "education is the best economic policy we have." And incidentally says a lot about that neoliberal mindset about the commodification of education into purely "economic value" rather than anything else.

keep punching joe posted:

Call Centre

You can advance fairly quickly without qualifications if you aren't a dick, have decent interpersonal skills, and can put up with members of the public screaming at you for 7.5 hours a day.

As someone whose work history is primarily in call centres, I think it's deeply irresponsible to recommend this without at the very least including the caveat of making sure it's an Inbound centre, because nobody wants to be stuck cold calling people. And even that can be a loving miserable, soul crushing experience. Depends on your employees I suppose, maybe it's not so bad if you're at like an internal company call centre, but the outsourcing companies are loving dreadful. Capita man. gently caress those guys.


The Holy Emperor spells it Taichi, all one word. (Taichi is a Japanese wrestler. It is a bad joke for an audience of about 4 UKMT regulars, only one of whom is cool enough to share my appreciation of The Holy Emperor)

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 8, 2019

seizure later
Apr 18, 2007

namesake posted:

Sounds awesome do you have a link?

In the vein of:

"They are wonderful, in that they inspire wonder; fantastic, in that they fabricate fantasies; marvellous, in that they generate marvels; and even terrific (they inspire terror)."

Sorry for being late on this, but I just saw it from this:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vbwpdb/the-climate-change-paper-so-depressing-its-sending-people-to-therapy

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

I was studying at the local college last year but my manager moved my shifts so I'm toasting sandwiches instead of getting a gcse lol

I just started going to an anti-fascist boxing club, going to do more of that if I can get some shifts swapped

Thanks for your understanding comrades, think I just needed to put that sense of despair for the future into words somewhere

The one thing we can say about the future is that it won't be the same as now
- Chuka Umunna

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

It's hard to find info online, but it was never free. It did however cost £20 in 1971 for a full undergraduate course, had risen to £55 by 1979 and by the time Thatcher was out of office it was over £200. But the real increases happened under New Labour, before being ramped up under the coalition to the point where mature students just aren't applying to the OU anymore because it's too expensive.
What was their deal with ensuring that the people most culturally scared of taking on large debts (the 'traditional working class' so to speak) were put off of any further education?

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Guavanaut posted:

The Damian Green scandal.

I long for the day when an MP has to declare their furry art sales as an interest in parliament.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

forkboy84 posted:

The Holy Emperor spells it Taichi, all one word. (Taichi is a Japanese wrestler. It is a bad joke for an audience of about 4 UKMT regulars, only one of whom is cool enough to share my appreciation of The Holy Emperor)

Well I was about to make the exact same joke so know that it was appreciated :unsmith::respek::unsmith:

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Pochoclo posted:

How much can you touch computer?

How much do you require this job to have things like "soul" and "meaning"?

I'm willing to sacrifice soul in proportion to the wages received.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
If you truly have no qualifications, then Adult Functional Skills courses in Maths and English are free at many local colleges. They're one of the few courses that the Government funds so colleges will bend over backwards to enrol as many students as possible.

Get a security job if you don't have a nasty criminal record. I have an acquaintance who is astoundingly useless at everything, has been sacked or mysteriously no longer required within weeks of joining somewhere, and yet is almost always employed. He bounces around from agency to agency and security job to security job and is hardly ever out of work despite not being able to keep a job long. This is not to suggest you're inept or anything, but it can be a steady income, flexible hours if you need to attend classes, and if you're on nights in an office, there's time to do a bit of studying whilst getting paid to work :)

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Azza Bamboo posted:

What's a good way to make money if you're unemployed, 27, can't join the military because of a dietary condition and don't really have much in the way of skills, qualifications, money or connections?

Asking for a friend.

If you can install windows & have half a clue how to use ms office, 'tech support' is your next step mate.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Talking about security nights in an office: man do I know someone with the cushiest job ever.

There's loads of chemical plants, power plants and other huge machinery in this county. One guy I know is a Hole Watcher. When there's big maintenance going on at these industrial facilities, the contractors have to go into all kinds of dangerous crawlspaces and the like. His job is to watch the entrance of these crawlspaces and radio every 10 minutes to see if the guy down there is still responding. If not, or if it looks like something has gone down in the hole, their job is to stay put and call for assistance.

They don't provide any assistance themselves. Their job is literally to sit and radio guys every 10 minutes and call for help if they don't answer.

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010
Worried about my job security when brexit happens, it hasn't begun yet but I genuinely think a lot of businesses are going to be hosed, if they aren't already

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Azza Bamboo posted:

I'm willing to sacrifice soul in proportion to the wages received.

If you don't feel deathly afraid of typing things in a little black box that makes computer do thing, know how to google things, can follow instructions, and can stand large amounts of boredom, you can probably get an entry level job in IT support very easily without any previous experience. Companies need a lot of warm bodies. Just read a sysadmin tutorial or something and as long as you learn some basic words like "ssh", "chmod", "bash", "vmware", etc, you're already better than 80% of the candidates they get.

It's kind of like a call centre except the aggressiveness of the people calling you is significantly reduced, the pay is slightly better, and you develop valuable computer skills that will eventually land you a better job where you don't need to deal with people calling you as much

If you're a nocturnal person you can get a night shift position and get paid literally to just watch a screen and call someone else if something goes red on the screen.

It is in fact very soulless but I'd argue that retail and food industry are a lot worse

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