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We still telling near-abduction stories? When I was 17, I was living with my sisters (25 and 27) while going to college in Washington. We lived in a really lovely town and would often go out on little semi-nature walks. A lot of towns in the PNW are inundated with nature, so it's easy to go from residential sidewalk to secluded forest path to Haggen's parking lot in a half hour walk. This day we decided to walk along this patch of forest near the main road. There was a field between the two, maybe 100 yards wide? So main road in sight, broad daylight, in a group. As we were walking along, we noticed a little path leading into the forest and saw a little shamble pile of tin and such. It wasn't far in, no more than 20 feet. I was closest to the pile and we were joking about it being a hobo hut when my sisters started quietly, frantically whispering that we should go. I had no idea what the hell changed, but they ushered me out of the woods and started across the field instead of continuing the forest-side path. I told them that I was wearing sandals and the brambles in the field were cutting my feet, but they just each grabbed an arm and lifted me across the drat field. When we got back to the roadside, they finally explained. As we were looking at the hobo hut, they turned around to see a man in a suit coming into the forest behind us, arms wide in that sort of bear hug gesture. When they made eye contact, he dropped his arms and did a heel-turn out of the forest and started walking the way we had come. As this was all being explained to me, forest and suit man still in sight, we saw a second man in a suit walking to where we had been. I think we interrupted a drug deal and Suit 1 was going to grab one of us as leverage...?
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When I was 1, my parents lived on Capitol Hill in DC. They we're moving out and carrying stuff to the car where I was sleeping in a car seat. Some guy came up, robbed my mom at gunpoint and took the car keys from her. He then got in the car with me and almost drove off till my dad ran up and the guy either saw me in the back or was spooked by my dad yelling. He got out and ran off. I don't recall any of this.
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Mar 9, 2019 17:53
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InediblePenguin posted:i just don't think it's because of testosterone and while, as a person who has been a victim of harassment by men who perceived me as a woman, i completely understand and support talking about how and why men as a group suck, i think it's loving stupid to turn to biotruths because testosterone and penises don't actually force people to be lovely any more than estrogen and vaginas make people sweet angels fit only for housewifery. is the topic understandable? yes but it's also loving stupid I have one near abduction story and I ended up not being abducted because I'm a woman. I had just crossed the road when a car with like 4 bald dudes stopped right next to me. One of them opens the car door reaching out for me when one of them yells "Dude it's not him it's a girl!" and they sped off. When I told my friends they told me that they were definitely neonazis who thought I was the only black antifa dude in town who had the same piercings as me. Said dude had just gone off the map (he literally spend like a year terrified at his mom's home playing WoW because he was the only recognizable dude there because a lower facemask will in fact not hide your skin color) because him and two other antifa dudes had badly beaten up some neonazi like a week before that so they were probably out to get some retribution. This is the only time I've thought "Thank god I was a woman and not a man walking home alone". But on the other hand I can't stop wondering if they just found some random black dude in black clothing and beat him up instead.
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Mar 9, 2019 19:42
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Man, I must have been an ugly kid because I don't have an almost abducted story at all.... 
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Mar 9, 2019 19:52
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http://www.kamikazeimages.net/writings/Flight Petty Officer 2nd Class Nobutaka Inoue posted:
Ensign Shigeru Masaki posted:
Corporal Toshio Nagata posted:
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InediblePenguin posted:i just don't think it's because of testosterone and while, as a person who has been a victim of harassment by men who perceived me as a woman, i completely understand and support talking about how and why men as a group suck, i think it's loving stupid to turn to biotruths because testosterone and penises don't actually force people to be lovely any more than estrogen and vaginas make people sweet angels fit only for housewifery. is the topic understandable? yes but it's also loving stupid There's plenty of evidence that men are the more criminal sex, especially when it comes to homicide and rape. This is true across a wide range of cultures and time periods. I actually went looking for any examples of this not being the case and couldn't find any- it is true no matter where you live, if you're in a city or a hunter-gatherer group. Men being violent obviously isn't inevitable but they definitely have a much higher tendency toward it, however and wherever they're raised. While I don't subscribe to  and I doubt it's as simplistic as "penises and testosterone!!!" I also don't think it's ridiculous that it could be partly due to biology.
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I feel like alot of people think of things as binary; Testosterone doesn't force people to be monsters, but it is probably a factor and bias things one way or another. It is definitely wrong to say hormones don't affect us mentally and why the hell would we be immune from hormones or have completely different reactions to hormones than other animals, especially ones that are only a few million years different than us? Also, remember that guassian distributions describe a hell of alot of reality and we certainly aren't immune from being described by them.
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Mar 9, 2019 20:51
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Telemaze posted:There's plenty of evidence that men are the more criminal sex, especially when it comes to homicide and rape. This is true across a wide range of cultures and time periods. I actually went looking for any examples of this not being the case and couldn't find any- it is true no matter where you live, if you're in a city or a hunter-gatherer group. Men being violent obviously isn't inevitable but they definitely have a much higher tendency toward it, however and wherever they're raised. One reason men might be the more violent sex is simply a result of being larger and/or more dense (har har) than women. Simple physics means you get better results from using violence, as you have greater mass to leverage. That slight advantage can be the difference between leaving a nasty bruise or snapping a bone. The propagation of firearms was the first truly feminist movement; “The real use of gunpowder is to make all men tall,” as it were.
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Mar 9, 2019 21:20
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:I feel like alot of people think of things as binary; Testosterone doesn't force people to be monsters, but it is probably a factor and bias things one way or another. It is definitely wrong to say hormones don't affect us mentally and why the hell would we be immune from hormones or have completely different reactions to hormones than other animals, especially ones that are only a few million years different than us? There are exceptions to this in the case of people with, like, legitimate brain damage destroying their impulse control, but if someone has a problem on that level then they need medical support and not to be left in situations where they could injure themselves or others.
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Mar 9, 2019 21:36
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It's not the job of women to jump in say "but we're not perfect either!!" every time it's pointed out we crime less.
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Mar 9, 2019 21:55
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Please don't take violent crime away from us! It's the last thing we men have that hasn't been ruined by modern feminism and misandry!
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Mar 9, 2019 22:00
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Pick posted:It's not the job of women to jump in say "but we're not perfect either!!" every time it's pointed out we crime less. We already know you're not perfect Pick.
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Mar 9, 2019 22:04
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I never crime, there are Powerful Institutions that have my fongerprints
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Mar 9, 2019 22:19
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Solice Kirsk posted:Please don't take violent crime away from us! It's the last thing we men have that hasn't been ruined by modern feminism and misandry! Apparently doing a murder isn’t “politically correct” anymore! EDIT: I think I’ve made this exact joke in this exact thread before. Ariong has a new favorite as of 23:06 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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Mar 9, 2019 22:28
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Pick posted:It's not the job of women to jump in say "but we're not perfect either!!" every time it's pointed out we crime less.
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Mar 9, 2019 22:39
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i've seen enough forensic files to know when women do crimes they're just as likely to be incredibly stupid when doing it as men
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Mar 9, 2019 22:46
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When it comes to violent crime the answer is unequivocally that we crime less.
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Mar 9, 2019 22:47
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Solice Kirsk posted:Man, I must have been an ugly kid because I don't have an almost abducted story at all.... Any potential abductors could tell that, while they were finishing their basement dungeon, you were studying the blade and were therefore too powerful an opponent.
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Mar 9, 2019 22:53
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Telemaze posted:When it comes to violent crime the answer is unequivocally that we crime less. Maybe that's because women just aren't competent enough to do violent crimes
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Mar 9, 2019 22:54
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Or maybe it's because we're so competent nobody realizes it's us 
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Mar 9, 2019 23:07
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M_Sinistrari posted:Longform article which is unnerving in how the slightest thing can set off obsessive revenge. A wealthy California lawyer power couple feels thier child was insulted by a volunteer mom at the school and engage in a year long campaign of ruining her life. That's a pro read. The detective work is amazing.
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Mar 9, 2019 23:13
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PetraCore posted:Do we crime less or do we crime smarter? More like we crime differently. Women are more likely to use methods like poison or while being a caregiver in general. https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/angel-death-nurse-suspected-killing-kids-indicted-for-murder-year-old-case/hhcwdJFC6U0pTLmozkZl5H/ https://globalnews.ca/news/3027315/angel-of-death-a-look-at-health-care-professionals-charged-with-killing-patients/ https://www.tulsaworld.com/archives/only-in-oklahoma-black-widow-enjoyed-the-limelight/article_72d236aa-b108-5a0f-bec7-d21e5197193d.html https://strangeremains.com/2014/05/18/a-nightmare-at-murder-farm-the-story-of-one-of-americas-most-prolific-serial-killers/ https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-39330793
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Solice Kirsk posted:Man, I must have been an ugly kid because I don't have an almost abducted story at all.... These jokes really aren’t funny, not to be an rear end in a top hat about it. Nobody who has experienced assault thinks of it as a thumbs-up on their attractiveness, trust.
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Mar 9, 2019 23:59
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Reading those semi-abduction stories made me remember that time when I was 8 and some mister came to me in the playground close to home and asked me directions to the school nearby. I told him, he said thanks and gave me some comic book (he seemed to be its publisher representative). I went home and told my parents. They were pissed at me and for years I never understood why and how it could be a dangerous thing. Nowadays I do. If he were a pedo rapist I wouldn't be here posting this.
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AlbieQuirky posted:These jokes really aren’t funny, not to be an rear end in a top hat about it. Yeah, I always stick my foot in my mouth in this thread with this poo poo. I know it's not funny to people but I keep making the same jokes. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but that takes more introspection than I care to take. Probably something to do with making light of all tragedies makes the ones I have to live with easier. Who knows. 
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AlbieQuirky posted:These jokes really aren’t funny, not to be an rear end in a top hat about it. It reminds me of how in the MJ doc Robson used that joke until he literally couldn't handle it anymore
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mllaneza posted:That's a pro read. The detective work is amazing. Now for unnerving imagine if this had happened in a less affluent county with stretched police resources and the victim was not white.
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Mar 10, 2019 00:31
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when i was 10 a man at the bus stop took my hands in his and told me i had "really pretty hands", then left
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Pvt.Scott posted:One reason men might be the more violent sex is simply a result of being larger and/or more dense (har har) than women. Simple physics means you get better results from using violence, as you have greater mass to leverage. That slight advantage can be the difference between leaving a nasty bruise or snapping a bone.
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Mar 10, 2019 01:27
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The 'Amazons' were based on scythians and other caucasian tribes, right? Or am I thinking of something else?
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Oh man (heh), I've been reading this thread over the last couple of days and trying to formulate a reply, and I still don't think this post will cover very much. Most of the stories in this thread about crimes committed by women were against their kids or an adult they were caring for, so it could be that people in general commit crimes against someone less powerful than them. We just happen to be in a society that gives men a shitload of power. (PYF unnerving article or story: Ugh, patriarchy.) As far as the testosterone argument goes, even if it does play a role in aggression, the perpetrators are repeatedly shown to plan their attacks with sufficient care that they're obviously in control of their actions. It's like when domestic abusers only "lose control" when there aren't any witnesses. I saw a quote over on Reddit talking about narcissistic abusers, saying "they don't understand empathy, but they do understand consequences." That argument could apply to sexual harassers and rapists as well. The thing about consequences is that right now they're inadequate not just for major offenders, like Convicted Rapist Brock Allen Turner, but for everyday low grade creeps as well. The metoo movement is full of stories about bystanders minimizing what they've seen, excusing the offender and generally acting like there's a filter between them and the victim changing "help me" into "tell me everything's fine." The low-level offenders get positive reinforcement by being allowed to get away with it and some of them will escalate to more severe offenses as time goes on. Anyone who witnesses it or hears about it secondhand learns the same lessons and because it's so common, they learn it enough to internalize it. Even though the actual perpetrators are a minority of repeat offenders, our society basically trains men to have a sex-crime-shaped blind spot unless they actively fight against it. Terrible Opinions posted:Wasn't there some Chinese ethnic group where women tended to be larger than men and as a result had differing dynamics there, or was that a traveler's tall tale? Also, I now have "Let's Generalize About Men" from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend stuck in my head.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:The 'Amazons' were based on scythians and other caucasian tribes, right? Or am I thinking of something else? Yes and no. The Amazon 'lore' that the Greeks dreamed up was absolutely inspired by the Scythians/Saka and other Euro-Asian nomadic tribal people at the time. The (most likely) reason that it was 'easier' for women to join the fighting forces of these tribes is because they relied on horseback tactics and LOTS of archery trickshot riding - something that women, with lighter frames can get very, very good at. The Scythians were loving insane though. They've found a skeleton of a dude with an iron arrowhead embedded in his spine and completely healed over with bone in a burial mound. I can't even loving imagine the level of pain. Ugh. That Damn Satyr has a new favorite as of 02:55 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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M_Sinistrari posted:More like we crime differently. Women are more likely to use methods like poison or while being a caregiver in general. There are two really good Texas Monthly articles about this case. Holy poo poo the lady is just stone cold. https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-death-shift-2/
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That drat Satyr posted:Yes and no. The Amazon 'lore' that the Greeks dreamed up was absolutely inspired by the Scythians/Saka and other Euro-Asian nomadic tribal people at the time. The (most likely) reason that it was 'easier' for women to join the fighting forces of these tribes is because they relied on horseback tactics and LOTS of archery trickshot riding - something that women, with lighter frames can get very, very good at. If memory serves the conditions in that part of the world were also nasty enough that having women fight was also a practical measure. A lot of those folks were nomadic born in the saddle horse people that learned to ride while they learned to walk. It wasn't just a matter of being easier; it was a matter of everybody fighting as a matter of survival. You learned to ride, fight, and hunt or you died. Didn't matter who you were so of course the people who did manage to survive were tough as nails and nasty as hell on the battlefield.
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Varkk posted:Now for unnerving imagine if this had happened in a less affluent county with stretched police resources and the victim was not white. Yup, years in prison.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If memory serves the conditions in that part of the world were also nasty enough that having women fight was also a practical measure. A lot of those folks were nomadic born in the saddle horse people that learned to ride while they learned to walk. It wasn't just a matter of being easier; it was a matter of everybody fighting as a matter of survival. You learned to ride, fight, and hunt or you died. Didn't matter who you were so of course the people who did manage to survive were tough as nails and nasty as hell on the battlefield. Yeah, you're absolutely right. These guys were basically out there clashing with other tribes just like them, while also living on the very edge of the beginning of the silk road trade route and beginning to learn to profit from that. Scythian art is absolutely loving amazing because right as their culture came to it's peak they had access to a huge variety of goods, so we have a ton of extant precious metals doodads and trinkets. Their stags and one of my all-time favorite icons. We even know a bit about their tattoos because one of the most famous mummies ever is Scythian and has crazy probably-spiritual-stuff tattoos. (Possible  for mummy photos?)https://siberiantimes.com/culture/others/features/siberian-princess-reveals-her-2500-year-old-tattoos/
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Pick posted:It's not the job of women to jump in say "but we're not perfect either!!" every time it's pointed out we crime less. To be fair Pick if there’s anything I’d be confident about in this world it’s that you could crime just as much as any man if you wanted to
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On the whole make vs female crime stats I remember a few years back the local police commander said that they were seeing a shift in offending. Basically things which until recently they only arrested males for they were now seeing more and more young women doing. Dangerous driving and street racing etc he said was now about 50/50. And they were even having a number of women arrested for brawling assualt type offences. He put it down to shifting attitudes in society and the girls can do anything mantra was applying even in negative aspects.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Wasn't there some Chinese ethnic group where women tended to be larger than men and as a result had differing dynamics there, or was that a traveler's tall tale? I see you’ve read my fanfic, please don’t dox me
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Pirate Radar posted:To be fair Pick if there’s anything I’d be confident about in this world it’s that you could crime just as much as any man if you wanted to I'll take it
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