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Sham bam bamina! posted:It's taken almost verbatim from The Well of Ascension. I... see. Milkfred E. Moore posted:
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Speaking of Atwood, I tried to read Blind Assassin, and it got impenetrably boring half way through. I'd rather read Ruth Rendell, to be honest.
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Mar 9, 2019 17:43
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The description of it may suck but the actual 1000 year breeding programs are one of the things that really drive home how hosed up the "Hero Didnt Win" setting of Mistborn is. I was sold on first reading the book when someone described it as "frodo keeps the ring."
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Mar 10, 2019 00:15
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http://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/53959a/turns-out-a-pile-of-writhing-maggots-sounds-a-lot-like-a-hot-casserole
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Mar 10, 2019 00:44
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pile of brown posted:The description of it may suck but the actual 1000 year breeding programs are one of the things that really drive home how hosed up the "Hero Didnt Win" setting of Mistborn is. I was sold on first reading the book when someone described it as "frodo keeps the ring." i want to make it clear that i hate not only this post and all of the ideas contained therein but also you, personally, as a human being
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Mar 10, 2019 01:08
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pile of brown posted:The description of it may suck but the actual 1000 year breeding programs are one of the things that really drive home how hosed up the "Hero Didnt Win" setting of Mistborn is. I was sold on first reading the book when someone described it as "frodo keeps the ring." rape as character development bad, but rape as worldbuilding... good?
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Mar 10, 2019 01:18
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The vaguely interesting ideas don't compensate for bad writing.
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Mar 10, 2019 01:28
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i want to make it clear that i hate not only this post and all of the ideas contained therein but also you, personally, as a human being ~whatever.you.like.TMI.mp3~ Milkfred E. Moore posted:rape as character development bad, but rape as worldbuilding... good? Yeah that's the exact thing I said, when I wrote "hosed up" I actually meant "good" Anyway gonna go watch The 100 now, which, while terrible, has no rapes Edit: yet pile of brown fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Mar 10, 2019 01:41
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pile of brown posted:The description of it may suck but the actual 1000 year breeding programs are one of the things that really drive home how hosed up the "Hero Didnt Win" setting of Mistborn is. I was sold on first reading the book when someone described it as "frodo keeps the ring." That seems like an okay concept for a book. Too bad it's Sanderson.
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Mar 10, 2019 01:44
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Well yeah that's why I read it (first Sanderson) I read Thomas covenant for similar reasons I blame goons pile of brown fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Mar 10, 2019 01:46
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pile of brown posted:Yeah that's the exact thing I said, when I wrote "hosed up" I actually meant "good" Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Mar 10, 2019 02:08
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pile of brown posted:I read Thomas covenant for similar reasons (the similar reasons are rape)
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Mar 10, 2019 02:47
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it really baffles me that sanderson's writing is so bad when he does so much of it. like you think the sheer weight of all that practice would force him to develop some kind of spark or voice or poetic flair, but somehow the more he writes the more flat and mechanical it seems to become
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Mar 10, 2019 02:48
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It's not that strange. Think of rocks in a tumbler.
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Mar 10, 2019 02:52
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Ok well for the records I think centuries long eugenics programs are bad and bransans writing of them is also bad and if that means to you that I think they are good ok sure whatever. Also if me thinking they are bad is good I'm fine w that too chernobyl kinsman posted:(the similar reasons are rape) yeah I didn't care for the rape. It did make Thomas a far more complex character than every one in bransans oeuvre combined tho (but still bad). I just like genre fantasy dystopias I guess and there aren't a shitload of them I know of avshalemon posted:it really baffles me that sanderson's writing is so bad when he does so much of it. like you think the sheer weight of all that practice would force him to develop some kind of spark or voice or poetic flair, but somehow the more he writes the more flat and mechanical it seems to become As surprising as it is, the further back you go, the worse it gets Mormobot pile of brown fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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Mar 10, 2019 03:09
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avshalemon posted:it really baffles me that sanderson's writing is so bad when he does so much of it. like you think the sheer weight of all that practice would force him to develop some kind of spark or voice or poetic flair, but somehow the more he writes the more flat and mechanical it seems to become Piers Anthony was the same way. I mean that's how I feel about Stephen King, and Dean Koontz. There's any number of people making a living doing bad writing, but lots of it. Commercially a lot of good writing isn't rewarded, but bad writing is. Good writing may make the reader struggle, or feel stupid as they have to wrestle with concepts or learn new words. Also, being Mormon probably encourages you to just blurt out bullshit and do no critical thinking about it, I mean the LDS beliefs are loving batshit insane, like at last Christianity happened long enough ago we can't prove it's wrong. And Smith clearly couldn't be bothered to do any re-writes, so they (Card, Meyers, Sanderson etc..) are just following their prophet in making up crazy poo poo that makes no sense and selling it.
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Mar 10, 2019 03:16
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pile of brown posted:Ok well for the records I think centuries long eugenics programs are bad and bransans writing of them is also bad and if that means to you that I think they are good ok sure whatever. Milkfred E. Moore posted:rape as character development bad, but rape as worldbuilding... good?
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Mar 10, 2019 03:55
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Sham bam bamina! posted:This is the (completely correct) post that you've been responding to: To be fair so does God. Trump is a rapist. Kavanaugh is a rapist. Our world is built on rape.
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Mar 10, 2019 05:06
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Sham bam bamina! posted:This is the (completely correct) post that you've been responding to: I think that a world that has institutionalized rape is bad. It's not the most subtle or most vociferous way to tell you the world is bad. In Mistborn it is a very heavy-handed way to tell you that the world is hosed to pieces and ruled by the corrupt. I liked that Mistborn takes place in a world that is basically Ruined. I didnt love reading about every element of it but it serves a narrative purpose beyond "lol rape", and a centuries long eugenics scheme is pretty monstrous, same as robot Hitler from the space navy books. Do you also think the Tleilaxu solely mean "rape is good worldbuilding?" I liked my blindsight derail a lot more stop yelling rape at me
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Mar 10, 2019 05:31
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Mar 10, 2019 06:00
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pseudanonymous posted:To be fair so does God. Trump is a rapist. Kavanaugh is a rapist. Our world is built on rape. this is it. this is the Post. it fulfills the Prophecy
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Mar 10, 2019 06:14
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the telos of the something awful forums was this, the production of the worst post ever made. the Platonic form of a bad post, made incarnate
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Mar 10, 2019 06:17
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the seventh seal is opened, and the vessels of the wrath of God shall be poured out upon the earth. ia! ia! Cthulhu ftagn!
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Mar 10, 2019 06:19
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I don’t think Stephen King is anywhere near as bad as Sanderson ( of which I’ve only read the exceprts here). At least King has an identifiable style and sensibility and so forth. His writing appears to come from actual lived experience.
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Mar 10, 2019 06:27
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Ah, my favorite kind of experience.
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pile of brown posted:I think that a world that has institutionalized rape is bad. It's not the most subtle or most vociferous way to tell you the world is bad. In Mistborn it is a very heavy-handed way to tell you that the world is hosed to pieces and ruled by the corrupt. I liked that Mistborn takes place in a world that is basically Ruined. I didnt love reading about every element of it but it serves a narrative purpose beyond "lol rape", and a centuries long eugenics scheme is pretty monstrous, same as robot Hitler from the space navy books. Sounds like bad writing.
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Mar 10, 2019 07:19
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Ah, my favorite kind of experience. Videogames are only worth fake experience points (FXP)
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Mar 10, 2019 07:21
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if you want to experience some real world building you should read Justine, or The Misfortunes of Virtue
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Wheeee posted:if you want to experience some real world building you should read Justine, or The Misfortunes of Virtue Justine is really hosed and I don’t understand how anyone can enjoy it even as pornography, and this is coming from someone who likes some pretty questionable erotica.
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Mar 11, 2019 04:23
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Pull up!
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Ships of Merior/Warhost of Vastmark by Janny Wurts: See, this is epic fantasy at its highest levels. Absolutely jawdropping prose, with a soaring plot and characters who leap from the pages. I'm gushing. These two books made me cry in good ways, and I would follow this author anywhere. They're the second book in her epic series "War of Light and Shadow" and form a complete story arc as Arithon completes his bard's apprenticeship with Halliron, as Lysaer finally finds and raises an army to kill Arithon, and as everything goes to Hell for everyone. Also includes the mages dealing with an invasion of evil space ghosts in the background, which was hilarious and desperate to read.
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Mar 11, 2019 10:54
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You're being sarcastic, right?
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Mar 11, 2019 14:07
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Part of the horror of the Axlotl tank in Dune is they never come out and say what they are, just a bit here or there. We're left to fill it in on our own.
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Mar 11, 2019 14:31
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terminal tor.com blog brain poisoning
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Doctor Faustine posted:Justine is really hosed and I don’t understand how anyone can enjoy it even as pornography, and this is coming from someone who likes some pretty questionable erotica. well it was written by the guy whose name is the etymological origin of the word sadism
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pile of brown posted:I think that a world that has institutionalized rape is bad. It's not the most subtle or most vociferous way to tell you the world is bad. In Mistborn it is a very heavy-handed way to tell you that the world is hosed to pieces and ruled by the corrupt. I liked that Mistborn takes place in a world that is basically Ruined. I didnt love reading about every element of it but it serves a narrative purpose beyond "lol rape", and a centuries long eugenics scheme is pretty monstrous, same as robot Hitler from the space navy books. Do you also think the Tleilaxu solely mean "rape is good worldbuilding?" I find it pretty distasteful that the murder-rape-brothels are just a background to a swashbuckling fantasy romp. If you're going to have atrocities in your work I feel you should handle them with a certain degree of effort and seriousness. Shoving them in because "lol evil" is just lazy and offensive. It's also worldbuilding in its worst form - outside the first chapter I don't think it's even tangentially related to the plot. We don't meet any characters from them, nobody has any emotional response to their existence, it's just "oh, this is a thing too" So that's exhibit B on "why Sanderson is worse about sex than Bakker" Strom Cuzewon fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Mar 11, 2019 |
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It's lazy characterization. There are plenty of ways to write antagonists, yet fantasy authors go straight for 
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:It's lazy characterization. There are plenty of ways to write antagonists, yet fantasy authors go straight for or, if you are Goodkind, the protagonists
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Mar 11, 2019 18:37
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CountFosco posted:You're being sarcastic, right?
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Sham bam bamina! posted:It's clearly a quote, although I couldn't find the source. It's someone from the Sci-Fi Fantasy thread gushing about books.
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