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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
cspam. cspam no you’re taking the wrong lessons away from this. cspam

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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

redsniper posted:

Syzurp to cure depression. Got it. :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=?96UoEcLR-Lc

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)


that's a dead link, Chokes

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Filthy Hans posted:

that's a dead link, Chokes

turn on your monitor






anyway it’s cspam whatever

bebop esq
Apr 17, 2006

hi boys
Questioning my almost 6 year relationship is really good for my mental status, yup.

:(

Maybe I should drink some cough syrup :shrug: (that never had any effect on me besides helping a cough anyway, heh)

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



cspam enters the purple drank era

PerilPastry
Oct 10, 2012

pre-op bebop posted:

Questioning my almost 6 year relationship is really good for my mental status, yup.

:(


Been there. Don't do what I did and allow that crap to fester. Sit down with your SO and discuss your concerns. Or maybe just have a chat with a friend or someone you trust, to begin with. Often times just giving voice to your pent-up feelings and frustrations can be really cathartic and help make things seem much more mundane and manageable.

Anyway, I've had an awful day, but as I was walking home tonight - desperately trying to suppress an anxiety attack - my neighbor's cat suddenly appeared from the bushes and started rubbing against my leg until I picked him up. Cats are the loving best, you guys :unsmith:

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Moist von Lipwig posted:

Esketamine is just the s isomer of ketamine which is normally racemic (the r isomer is a little less potent and has some slightly different affinities)

for what it's worth the FDA did some major fuckery on this and the numbers are pretty bad. ketamine is routinely outperformed by good old dextromethorphan (yes the cough syrup) for treating depression.

I've personally used both at a huge range of dosages for quite severe bipolar depression and I'll take the DXM any day of the week in terms of effectiveness. it's an NMDA antagonist like ketamine but the primary metabolites half life is waaaay longer so the mood lift lasts for weeks and not days.

the real magic is that it's also a very unusual SSRI that hits some very specific receptor subtypes that other ssris don't that do fun stuff like upregulate BDNF, increasing neuroplasticity like you see in traditional psychedelics

the next day afterglow from a DXM trip is really tempting me to go grab a bottle of gelcaps rn

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Moist von Lipwig posted:

now I'm not saying treat your depression with cough syrup buuut next time you're feeling down what do you have to lose by taking two tablespoons of Robitussin versus infusions of a drug that causes bladder cancer?

so youre saying taking a reccomended dose of dxm helps? i'm not gonna start robotripping to alleviate my depression because of a cspam post, but if it's just a dose of the magnitude listed in thr bottle i might as well give it a shot

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

PerilPastry posted:

Anyway, I've had an awful day, but as I was walking home tonight - desperately trying to suppress an anxiety attack - my neighbor's cat suddenly appeared from the bushes and started rubbing against my leg until I picked him up. Cats are the loving best, you guys :unsmith:

Cats are pretty dang cool. Mines getting old but in a rad and not depressing way, she still has crazy energy and can jump up to pretty much anything from ground level but now she naps a lot more and is super lovey dovey for attention

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
guys seriously don't take cough syrup for your depression it's self medicating why do I even have to type this

if your doctor says sip on that sizzurp then ok but I am quite frankly wary of Dr. Nona, M.D.'s credentials

Murrah
Mar 22, 2015

Surprised I didn't find this thread sooner

Bp 1, my manic episode in 2014 largely revolved around delusions of designing a computer that would help solve climate change. Been receiving treatment since then and no repeat episode

Makes consuming news media like about climate change a little challenging not exactly triggering but yeah

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Finicums Wake posted:

so youre saying taking a reccomended dose of dxm helps? i'm not gonna start robotripping to alleviate my depression because of a cspam post, but if it's just a dose of the magnitude listed in thr bottle i might as well give it a shot

back's double blind study used 75mg and 75mg again after 4 hours

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02860962

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012
Ex girlfriend popping over tomorrow, presumably to make sure I haven't necked myself yet.

Cool. Cool.

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012
And it has been literally months since I quit escitalopram and I'm still getting zaps.

I should probably go back on meds huh.

Altimeter
Sep 10, 2003


this makes me nervous as a 20mg dose haver

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012

Mutar posted:

this makes me nervous as a 20mg dose haver

It shouldn't. I should still be on lexapro. The zaps are my own fuckup.

Man I need to see a proper shrink instead of a fuckin GP who hasnt a loving clue about this. Thoughts getting dark even for me :(

Mackers has issued a correction as of 04:21 on Mar 10, 2019

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012
I dont want the sum total of my life to be a painful thought that intrudes in the head of people who cared about me.

this is v hard

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

bob dobbs is dead posted:

back's double blind study used 75mg and 75mg again after 4 hours

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02860962

So like 5 times the normal dosage for coughing


Mackers posted:

I dont want the sum total of my life to be a painful thought that intrudes in the head of people who cared about me.

this is v hard

It won't, because you will live

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Even in spite of your ex girlfriend pooping over tomorrow which is how I read it at first

One day she was fine the next just pooped right over

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Finicums Wake posted:

so youre saying taking a reccomended dose of dxm helps? i'm not gonna start robotripping to alleviate my depression because of a cspam post, but if it's just a dose of the magnitude listed in thr bottle i might as well give it a shot

my experience and the data in the literature has shown non-psychoactive doses to have a mood lifting effect, yes. 0.8-0.9mg/kg seems to be the sweet spot where you can avoid feeling weird and still get the SSRI / NMDA effect.

the dose listed on the bottle won't be bodyweight based (it's usually 30mg) so it'll be somewhere between 1-2 doses for most people.

if you do decide to try it I suggest the cough gels. if you do get syrup make absolutely sure it's just DXM and doesn't have acetaminophen or guafensin in it because you'll make yourself super sick.

self medicating is obviously a weird area but people were expressing interest in ketamine therapy and I've personally had my life saved by a small dose of DXM before when things seemed really dire.

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Moist von Lipwig posted:

now I'm not saying treat your depression with cough syrup buuut next time you're feeling down what do you have to lose by taking two tablespoons of Robitussin versus infusions of a drug that causes bladder cancer?

am I shaking the shoulders of skeletons in the catacombs and yelling at them to take DXM

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

does anyone ever get video game anxiety? I know it sounds stupid. There's this dumb level in Resident Evil that I can't beat and it keeps annoying me. I know it's possible, it's a matter of luck and persistence. I can't tell if I want to stop playing or just grind it out.

I've always been an anxious/neurotic person. Sometimes it feels like games exacerbate all this stuff under the surface. I place a lot of emphasis on "solving" the "problem" of a game I like. It's hard to relax.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Smirking_Serpent posted:

does anyone ever get video game anxiety? I know it sounds stupid.

I routinely get so anxious about not playing a game right that I will dwell on it until I’m sick of thinking about it and never actually play past the first 5%.

it feels stupid, that’s for sure.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Smirking_Serpent posted:

does anyone ever get video game anxiety? I know it sounds stupid. There's this dumb level in Resident Evil that I can't beat and it keeps annoying me. I know it's possible, it's a matter of luck and persistence. I can't tell if I want to stop playing or just grind it out.

I've always been an anxious/neurotic person. Sometimes it feels like games exacerbate all this stuff under the surface. I place a lot of emphasis on "solving" the "problem" of a game I like. It's hard to relax.

it sounds like a highly visible symptom of wider ocd but ianad

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Even in spite of your ex girlfriend pooping over tomorrow which is how I read it at first

One day she was fine the next just pooped right over

look when your bathrooms out of commission it’s either that or the floor

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Victory Position posted:

am I shaking the shoulders of skeletons in the catacombs and yelling at them to take DXM

mekyabetsu
Dec 17, 2018

Subjunctive posted:

I routinely get so anxious about not playing a game right that I will dwell on it until I’m sick of thinking about it and never actually play past the first 5%.

it feels stupid, that’s for sure.
In a similar vein, I’ll often be reading a book, start getting paranoid that I missed some minor but important plot point a few paragraphs prior, then go back and read from the beginning of the paragraph/page/chapter/etc. I’ll literally do this five or six times before I’m fully “satisfied” that I completely absorbed the material, and I can go on. This behavior extends to games and movies. Just replace going back a few pages with reloading a save game, rewinding the movie, etc.

This always seems like textbook OCD or ADHD to me, but apparently it isn’t, because every doctor and therapist I’ve brought it up with attributes it to generalized anxiety. I can see how that might be the case, but sometimes I feel like my doctor doesn’t give this symptom the attention it deserves. It really makes enjoying any story-based media nearly impossible :(.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Zyla posted:

you know what sucks?

I do.

oh? :bigtran:


someone in one of these threads mentioned avoidant personalty disorder past week and it was like a flashing light in my head, it nails my main problem, so i went back to my old therapist and mentioned it this week and maybe they'll call back with an appointment

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

got any sevens posted:

oh? :bigtran:


someone in one of these threads mentioned avoidant personalty disorder past week and it was like a flashing light in my head, it nails my main problem, so i went back to my old therapist and mentioned it this week and maybe they'll call back with an appointment

holy Jesus Christ on a stick this is a thing?

I just put the Wikipedia article in front of my wife, she read through the entire thing and went “yeah that’s basically exactly everything you’ve expressed to me about your problems”

so welp, thanks op, now I know what’s up!

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

I have also been struck by how familiar the description of Avoidant Personality Disorder seemed when I first read about it. I have mentioned it to a doctor, but they said that there's nowhere in Devon that specialises in personality disorders (in case you were wondering where we are with the NHS and mental health - someone I know has said her daughter had to go to London for treatment, though I think that was a different condition, but I didn't want to be nosy). Though some people think AvPD and severe social anxiety are the same thing, and I have been diagnosed with the latter by Proper Doctors (also "some autistic traits" and "mild schizoid traits" according to one doctor several years ago) so I may or may not be one of those self-diagnosed weirdos people make fun of, depending on who you ask. Even the DWP doesn't think I'm fit for work, though, so there's clearly something there that other people can see.

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice
Lexapro taker here. I don't feel anything different in my brain on it, but I do know for sure that the physical, crushing feeling that I always had in my chest went away as soon as I started on it a couple of years ago. I went off it for about a month last year because I was afraid of becoming dependent and I definitely got the brain zaps and vertigo for a while (which I actually liked!), but then the chest pain came right back. So I guess I'm on it forever now??

In better news, it finally stoped raining a few days ago so I was able to go outside and mow my lawn and pull weeds and I'm gonna go do the same today! Yard work is the best medicine, folks.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Chokes McGee posted:

holy Jesus Christ on a stick this is a thing?

I just put the Wikipedia article in front of my wife, she read through the entire thing and went “yeah that’s basically exactly everything you’ve expressed to me about your problems”

so welp, thanks op, now I know what’s up!

That linked to Sensory processing sensitivity and holy poo poo that's good to know about. drat if I'm not super sensitive to car horns, light, caffeine, touch, hunger and all sorts of poo poo as of recent years.

e: Hmmm, take "Sensory processing sensitivity" and its article with a grain of salt. Looking at its talk page it appears to not have very strong academic backing at all

Happy Thread has issued a correction as of 21:36 on Mar 10, 2019

mekyabetsu
Dec 17, 2018

I was feeling miserable today because my anemia was kicking my rear end, and I barely had the energy to get up and shovel the snow from my sidewalk after last night’s snowstorm. I heard a knock at my door, and these two girls with shovels told me they were raising money for a youth program at their school. They were asking for :10bux: each. I gave them :20bux: each, and the way their faces lit up when I gave them the money was the greatest drat thing :3:. I don’t plan on having any kids of my own, but when I see the kids in my neighborhood being helpful and kind and amazing, it makes me so happy. I hope I can do more for them in the future.

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



I've forgotten how to act like a human so now I'm just a posting golem

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

mekyabetsu posted:

I was feeling miserable today because my anemia was kicking my rear end, and I barely had the energy to get up and shovel the snow from my sidewalk after last night’s snowstorm. I heard a knock at my door, and these two girls with shovels told me they were raising money for a youth program at their school. They were asking for :10bux: each. I gave them :20bux: each, and the way their faces lit up when I gave them the money was the greatest drat thing :3:. I don’t plan on having any kids of my own, but when I see the kids in my neighborhood being helpful and kind and amazing, it makes me so happy. I hope I can do more for them in the future.

Yeah one of the coolest things about living in the city is the roving packs of kids who have off school and will shovel your car out for a few bucks. Fighting over parking places that people have blocked with lawn chairs is somewhat worth it to have a mobile shoveling force in place

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

mekyabetsu posted:

I was feeling miserable today because my anemia was kicking my rear end, and I barely had the energy to get up and shovel the snow from my sidewalk after last night’s snowstorm. I heard a knock at my door, and these two girls with shovels told me they were raising money for a youth program at their school. They were asking for :10bux: each. I gave them :20bux: each, and the way their faces lit up when I gave them the money was the greatest drat thing :3:. I don’t plan on having any kids of my own, but when I see the kids in my neighborhood being helpful and kind and amazing, it makes me so happy. I hope I can do more for them in the future.

this is good, thank you :)

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Poniard posted:

I've forgotten how to act like a human so now I'm just a posting golem

I am made entirely of posts and I poo poo posts, literally poo poo them

Ayin
Jan 6, 2010

Have a great day.

Smirking_Serpent posted:

does anyone ever get video game anxiety? I know it sounds stupid.
Extremely yes, but not for the reasons you have... I get a near-panic response from getting attacked in first-person games, which is incredibly stupid. And really lovely because Doom and Unreal are two of my favorite games. :negative:

Dumb Lowtax posted:

That linked to Sensory processing sensitivity and holy poo poo that's good to know about. drat if I'm not super sensitive to car horns, light, caffeine, touch, hunger and all sorts of poo poo as of recent years.

e: Hmmm, take "Sensory processing sensitivity" and its article with a grain of salt. Looking at its talk page it appears to not have very strong academic backing at all
Try looking for "sensory processing disorder", it is (or was when I read about it in the early 00's) heavily associated with autism but lately seems to be just as accepted in relation to ADD And Maybe Other Things Too

Admittedly I haven't followed up on the research for it because after learning the nature of the problem, it turned out I could just avoid my Problem Materials most of the time. sorry! :ohdear:
Also, going on my first SSRI had a very obvious effect in blunting the problem (along with many other processing troubles; it practically proved that my processing problems are amplified by anxiety).

before meds my faceblindness was bad enough that i couldn't even recognize my own mother by her face alone lmao

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Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Mackers posted:

It shouldn't. I should still be on lexapro. The zaps are my own fuckup.

Man I need to see a proper shrink instead of a fuckin GP who hasnt a loving clue about this. Thoughts getting dark even for me :(

you absolutely should see a psychiatrist for your psychoactive drug needs, especially since your GP sounds like a dud in the brain department

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