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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jez suggesting a GE I bet.

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c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing
He just suggested a GE yes

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

CyberPingu posted:

Someone explain what is meant by a free vote and why that's bad?

Basically there's no whip so Tory mps can vote how they like without fear of being disciplined

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

ShutteredIn posted:

Is the no whip vote tomorrow?

Yep. And then a further vote on extending Art.50 on Thursday if the house votes again no deal tomorrow.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
Surely it's gonna be an easy No for No deal right?

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

ThomasPaine posted:

Basically there's no whip so Tory mps can vote how they like without fear of being disciplined

Ah right. Cheers

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

CyberPingu posted:

Surely it's gonna be an easy No for No deal right?

Hellworld

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

CyberPingu posted:

Surely it's gonna be an easy No for No deal right?

Yeah there's nowhere near a majority for no deal

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

CyberPingu posted:

Surely it's gonna be an easy No for No deal right?

Yeah no deal doesn't have the numbers

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

CyberPingu posted:

Surely it's gonna be an easy No for No deal right?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


CyberPingu posted:

Someone explain what is meant by a free vote and why that's bad?

Doing a free vote is basically admitting you can't control your MPs. Corbyn did one for the Syrian bombing vote where Hilary Benn apparently made the greatest speech in history (in favour of bombing folk in the Middle East of course) and it was a big deal

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

serious gaylord posted:

The government is about to firebomb the media with no deal planning. THey're finally going to admit how much of a shitshow it will be.

this seems somewhat opimistic, not convinced may isn't an actual convert brexiteer these days

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

No Deal will probably be voted down on a majority of 300+. It's just that "We want a deal but not that deal or that deal" will not do anything meaningful.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


The best part in this is that May said absolutely gently caress all about her own future & the future of the government, just that she's mad Parliament didn't vote for the thing Parliament had already rejected once and threatened to reject on multiple other occasions before the vote was pulled. What an absolutely abjectly useless leader.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I guess it's gonna depend on what happens after tomorrow.

I doubt no deal would pass, especially not on a free vote for the tories, but it depends entirely on what gets put up to vote after that.

To be honest it seems a bit like May backing down, really. Abdicating responsibility. Saying do what the gently caress you like I'm sick ofit.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

V. Illych L. posted:

i feel as though offering a free vote on "disaster yes/no" is somewhat irresponsible

Don't worry it's non binding so even if these idiots vote against the disaster it will still happen anyway, just as the British people requested

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
big vince is making a mess of this

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
So realistically were headed for an extension and possibly either another referendum or a GE

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Okay "Since the American war of independence" was a good line lmao

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

OK, which fucker is wandering around the Commons lobby wearing a red nose?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

loving sky talking over Cable dropping burns.

And then Bercow asking the right honourable gentleman to drop his burn a second time, louder and clearer.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
its ridiculous that she's making the no deal vote one that still causes no deal

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Just got an email from my good mate Jez:

quote:

Dear Goon,

Defeated - twice. Theresa May's awful Brexit deal has just been defeated yet again.

A snap General Election has never been more likely. We must be ready.

The Prime Minister is driving Britain closer and closer to the cliff edge on March 29. Her failed negotiations have given us a deal that threatens jobs, workers rights and our economy. Theresa May wants people to believe the choice is her deal or no deal.

Neither are acceptable.

Goon, a General Election is a step closer tonight. You and I know we can't rely on a handful of donors like the Tories. We have to work together.

Will you help fund our people-powered movement?

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 12, 2019

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Is bercow literally bullying cable lmao

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



lmao Bercow just dunked on Cable

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
Tess pulling faces

or maybe her skin suit is malfunctioning

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
So what now?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
UK is crashing out unless a GE is called, the No Deal vote doesn't matter

seizure later
Apr 18, 2007
if May could feel humiliation I'd expect her to have hanged herself by the morn.

shame she doesn't

UnlimitedSpessmans
Jul 31, 2015

Pochoclo posted:

So what now?

nothing has changed.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






What's the best galaxy brain centrist take on this so far?

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
Watched Maybot eat poo poo just now. Made my day.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

CyberPingu posted:

So realistically were headed for an extension and possibly either another referendum or a GE

Or No Deal! It's not off the table unless A50 is extended and agreed to unanimously by the EU27.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Gorn Myson posted:

What's the best galaxy brain centrist take on this so far?

Still waiting for Tony Blair to weigh in

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
IIRC, we already had one vote on no deal and it was rejected by something silly like 500 to 33. This one will probably work out similarly. It's just a purity test for the ERG, not something we seriously want to worry about.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Gorn Myson posted:

What's the best galaxy brain centrist take on this so far?

TIGgers continuing to refuse to vote no confidence in Maybot?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

forkboy84 posted:

Doing a free vote is basically admitting you can't control your MPs. Corbyn did one for the Syrian bombing vote where Hilary Benn apparently made the greatest speech in history (in favour of bombing folk in the Middle East of course) and it was a big deal

ah the days when corbyn was trying very hard to get the PLP on-board and they interpreted it as a sign of weakness

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Gorn Myson posted:

What's the best galaxy brain centrist take on this so far?

What we need is Tony Blair to save us.

Vlex
Aug 4, 2006
I'd rather be a climbing ape than a big titty angel.



WhatEvil posted:

Just got an email from my good mate Jez:

Alright, George

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Pochoclo posted:

So what now?

Now we're heading for No Deal unless there's a general election, which there won't be because Theresa doesn't want to get voted out of office.

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