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Is Kraft going to Florida specifically for a $50 handjob weirder than Mark Davis travelling $400 miles to get his haircut? It's a close call.
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R.D. Mangles posted:i feel like there's just one gigantic recursive omni-scandal Probably. Drawing a scandal family tree would be incredible.
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Mar 12, 2019 23:15
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General Dog posted:Is Kraft going to Florida specifically for a $50 handjob weirder than Mark Davis travelling $400 miles to get his haircut? It's a close call. IIRC ... he was in Miami for the NBA All-Star Game, so the spa trip was for a side job.
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Mar 12, 2019 23:45
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How did he even know about the place?
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Mar 13, 2019 00:00
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:How did he even know about the place? 
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Mar 13, 2019 01:09
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:How did he even know about the place?
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Mar 13, 2019 02:15
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:How did he even know about the place? I heard he used a nifty little website called RubMaps.com. Maybe you've heard of it.
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Mar 13, 2019 03:45
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:I heard he used a nifty little website called RubMaps.com. Maybe you've heard of it. More likely he has an assistant who uses RubMaps but has convinced Kraft he was a sixth sense for finding the rub-n-tugs in the near vicinity.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:30
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Trump Jr. told him about the place.
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Mar 13, 2019 21:41
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he was doing Undercover Boss: sex trafficking edition. where did the rubmaps meme come from?
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Mar 13, 2019 22:37
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General Dog posted:Is Kraft going to Florida specifically for a $50 handjob weirder than Mark Davis travelling $400 miles to get his haircut? It's a close call. Kraft lives in south Florida. It’s his primary residence to take advantage of Florida’s generous homestead exemptions.
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Mar 13, 2019 22:40
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I have to reiterate, this was Bob Kraft’s regular rub and tug spot. He was a frequent customer as it’s around the corner from his palm beach home.
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Mar 13, 2019 22:41
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Mr. Nice! posted:I have to reiterate, this was Bob Kraft’s regular rub and tug spot. He was a frequent customer as it’s around the corner from his palm beach home. Like I noted somewhere earlier he went twice in 24 hours before the AFC championship game. He probably had favorites.
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Mar 13, 2019 22:43
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Gay Horney posted:he was doing Undercover Boss: sex trafficking edition. where did the rubmaps meme come from? That wondrous site is how the cops found the place. Then they started surveillance.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:15
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It's amazing to me the lengths that Donnie will go to ensure every story is about him. Conservative news is missing an opportunity if they don't try to explain this away by saying that Jesus also spent a lot of time around prostitutes.
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Mar 14, 2019 13:36
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:I heard he used a nifty little website called RubMaps.com. Maybe you've heard of it. No. Definitely not. I would remember if I had, for example, typed that url into my address bar every day for the last three years. Nope. Not ringing any bells
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Mar 15, 2019 00:00
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Eifert Posting posted:It's amazing to me the lengths that Donnie will go to ensure every story is about him. Conservatives would have to actually know something about Jesus to make that point.
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Mar 15, 2019 00:21
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Mr. Nice! posted:I have to reiterate, this was Bob Kraft’s regular rub and tug spot. He was a frequent customer as it’s around the corner from his palm beach home. Jupiter home
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Mar 15, 2019 03:13
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Amy Pole Her posted:Jupiter home I don’t know all of south florida that well it’s all palm beach then miami to me. I’ve only even been in the area twice in my life.
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Mar 15, 2019 12:12
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don’t know all of south florida that well it’s all palm beach then miami to me. I’ve only even been in the area twice in my life. Haha it’s ok, gotta stand up for my tiny hometown whenever I can
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Mar 15, 2019 13:34
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Amy Pole Her posted:Haha it’s ok, gotta stand up for my tiny hometown whenever I can Is it all just nothing but suburban sprawl for hundreds of miles? I drove around for a few hours yesterday up and down highway 1 and everything looked exactly the same.
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Mar 15, 2019 20:44
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Mr. Nice! posted:Is it all just nothing but suburban sprawl for hundreds of miles? I drove around for a few hours yesterday up and down highway 1 and everything looked exactly the same. My in-laws live in Stuart, and I cosign your observation.
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Mar 15, 2019 22:23
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Mr. Nice! posted:Is it all just nothing but suburban sprawl for hundreds of miles? I drove around for a few hours yesterday up and down highway 1 and everything looked exactly the same. Not in this area. We’ve got a weird intersection of 3 islands and gorgeous views
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Mar 15, 2019 23:27
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lmao they're going to drop the charges against Kraft because he's too rich what a pathetic excuse of a system we live in
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Mar 19, 2019 18:34
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SKULL.GIF posted:lmao they're going to drop the charges against Kraft because he's too rich https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1108051856532615168 that's, uh, an odd offer - admit we'd find you guilty and we won't. of note, it's being given to more than just kraft, but it's reasonable to assume that everyone else its offered to is just cover.
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Mar 19, 2019 18:37
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A happy ending to this story for Kraft.
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Mar 19, 2019 18:38
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Mar 19, 2019 18:53
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Florida prosecutors have offered to drop charges against New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft and a number of other men charged with soliciting prostitution, according to a person familiar with the matter, but there is a catch. The proposed agreement calls for the men to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial. The proposed deferred prosecution agreement calls for completion of an education course about prostitution, completion of 100 hours of community service, screening for sexually transmitted diseases and... (rest of story needs a login)
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Mar 19, 2019 19:21
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:The proposed agreement calls for the men to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial.
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Mar 19, 2019 19:47
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Basically a no contest plea, it sounds like. "I'm not pleading guilty, but at the same time, I concede that if it went to trial I'd likely be found guilty." is pretty much what it tends to be.
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Mar 19, 2019 20:03
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1108051856532615168 Isn’t that technically how every deferred prosecution agreement works?
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Mar 19, 2019 20:04
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Isn't this just an Alford Plea?
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Mar 19, 2019 20:18
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Proteus Jones posted:Isn't this just an Alford Plea? alford/no contest pleas end with you actually being found guilty not with you getting the charge cleared
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Mar 19, 2019 20:34
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evilweasel posted:alford/no contest pleas end with you actually being found guilty not with you getting the charge cleared Not necessarily, it’s probably a deferred adjudication thing where he pleads guilty but the court doesn’t proceed to find him guilty and then it gets dismissed after a certain period of time as long as he goes that long without getting in more trouble and complies with whatever other conditions they set. If he doesn’t comply, they can just summarily find him guilty and sentence him because he already pled to it. In this context, being allowed to do an Alford plea is a pretty big deal because it just requires him to admit there is enough evidence to find him guilty, he doesn’t have to admit that he actually IS guilty.
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Mar 19, 2019 20:42
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Thermos H Christ posted:Not necessarily, it’s probably a deferred adjudication thing where he pleads guilty but the court doesn’t proceed to find him guilty and then it gets dismissed after a certain period of time as long as he goes that long without getting in more trouble and complies with whatever other conditions they set. If he doesn’t comply, they can just summarily find him guilty and sentence him because he already pled to it. i think we'll need more than the intro paragraph to resolve this but when i hear "charges dropped" i interpret that as stronger than a deferred adjudication or the like, and mean that it actually gets dismissed and they're off scot-free. but it's silly to argue more without the details, either is a reasonable interpretation.
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Mar 19, 2019 20:44
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evilweasel posted:i think we'll need more than the intro paragraph to resolve this but when i hear "charges dropped" i interpret that as stronger than a deferred adjudication or the like, and mean that it actually gets dismissed and they're off scot-free. but it's silly to argue more without the details, either is a reasonable interpretation. Dismissed without prejudice one would assume?
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Mar 19, 2019 20:45
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It's not a differed adjudication, alfred plea, or anything of the sort. It's a standard florida DPA. I've mentioned it in here a few times. These are routine at the misdemeanor level and are a program operated entire within the State Attorney's Office. The court is not involved at all with a DPA. It's an agreement between accused and the state attorney. In this case, the DPA carries with it the same requirements that statutorily would come with a conviction - 100 hours community service, $5k fine, STD testing, sex trafficking class, etc. The statement admitting guilt is not an admission that can be used in court against them and they are never adjudicated in any way by a judge. They aren't on probation, either, although the DPA may be administered by the same office locally that manages probation. Basically, if it's your first offense in Florida and a misdemeanor, it's pretty easy to get into a DPA. They're set by the SAO, so there are different requirements depending on the crime that are standard. At the end of the DPA the charges are dismissed with prejudice. They're eligible to be expunged. If he were to plea and be put on probation, he would not be able to seal this offense.
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Mar 19, 2019 21:03
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in other words he's being treated like a middle class white guy, not a rich guy
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Mar 19, 2019 21:04
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He’s still gonna fight it because he’s a moron.
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Mar 19, 2019 21:07
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:in other words he's being treated like a middle class white guy, not a rich guy basically
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