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Arcsquad12 posted:Is Jag incapable of using concrete examples in his speeches? Out of all three leaders he has got to be the least decisive sounding speaker. Trudeau might be wishy-washy and spout a whole lot of nothing but when he's working off of a script his speechwriters have tailored for him he can actually sound articulate. This isnt quite true. When Trudeau first took over and during the first half of the campaign that is very much what he sounded like. It was a big part of the reason expectations for him were so laughably low.
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Furnaceface posted:This isnt quite true. When Trudeau first took over and during the first half of the campaign that is very much what he sounded like. It was a big part of the reason expectations for him were so laughably low. The masses of the people demand feelings, not policies
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vyelkin posted:Never forget that one of the things JWR was told when they were pressuring her was "we can line up op-eds from here to the moon saying you did the right thing". The first factory closures and the like from relocation to China would've been the mid to late 70s as after Nixon's push to open trade. Shortly after that the rhetoric became a favorite tool of the establishment cause. However, it's a knife sharpened by economic downturns. We live in the shadow of 2008. Everyone is always terrified of losing their job still, it's the omnipresent post economic apocalypse feeling we likely won't escape from, absent a very big shift in societal perspectives.
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Le Saboteur posted:Just got retweeted by a super obvious Trudeau bot account. Very odd. https://twitter.com/judyjackson2086?s=09 The new ad money buy
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https://twitter.com/M_Vastel/status/1105426421642596353 This is a big get and dramatically ups the odds of the NDP holding the seat. The Khadir/Machouf household (and I do mean literally their house) has been at the nexus of all left politics in Montréal for like, two decades.
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My only hope is that this brings us one step closer to QS doing a hostile takeover of the federal NDP.
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vyelkin posted:My only hope is that this brings us one step closer to QS doing a hostile takeover of the federal NDP. My sense when I was in Mtl (which might be outdated, we've had a general election and mayoral election and provincial election since then) is that there was a big Project Montréal/QS activist overlap and a big Projet/NDP overlap, but not so much QS/NDP. Hopefully this helps bridge that!
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Yay https://twitter.com/EricGrenierCBC/status/1105450765722750976
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I really like how Eric Grenier doesn't provide any of his methodology for seat projections or probability of winning. 
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Proprietary haruspicy
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EvidenceBasedQuack posted:I really like how Eric Grenier doesn't provide any of his methodology for seat projections or probability of winning. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-vote-seat-methodology-1.4054947
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EvidenceBasedQuack posted:I really like how Eric Grenier doesn't provide any of his methodology for seat projections or probability of winning. what methodology
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To put probability into practical context, a party with a 25 per cent probability of winning has as much of a chance of winning the election as someone does of flipping a coin twice and getting "heads" both times. Unlikely — but still very possible.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:To put probability into practical context, a party with a 25 per cent probability of winning has as much of a chance of winning the election as someone does of flipping a coin twice and getting "heads" both times. Unlikely — but still very possible. WTF is this Discovery Math bullshit?
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 Just in case some of you political junkies have some love left in your hateful hearts:Lowtax discussing SomethingAwful Money Problems You can donate the usual way, or support the patreon, or buy some poster you think is really cool/stupid an AV that says "yo i'm cool/stupid as hell" and also there is apparently a store where you can buy the worst looking t shirts but the other options are better imo
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infernal machines posted:WTF is this Discovery Math bullshit? It's the last bit of eric grenier explaining his methodology to practical canadians. Lowtax is so hosed, why not get his canadian wife to sponsor him and move here in 6-8 months, spouses are exempt from the medically demanding denial.
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The seat projection ranges are hilarious. 90-190? Why not just say, I have no loving idea.
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Also lowtax has made a lot of money off mine and everybody else's content and i'm sorry he was too dumb to save it, but thems the breaks aint it.
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RBC posted:The seat projection ranges are hilarious. 90-190? Why not just say, I have no loving idea. Because that's always been his MO? His error bars are a mile wide and when reality lands just slightly outside of that he claims 90% accuracy. Postess with the Mostest posted:It's the last bit of eric grenier explaining his methodology to practical canadians. Lowtax is so hosed, why not get his canadian wife to sponsor him and move here in 6-8 months, spouses are exempt from the medically demanding denial. I'm pretty sure he's also being sued by the great state of Missouri for outstanding tax debt of like $100k, which might complicate things somewhat
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Seat projections are impossible without regional polling which no one wants to do here with any regularity so why not just throw darts at a dartboard and get a nice CBC paycheque
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Blood Boils posted:
I bought archives and donated before even seeing this post because if the forums die I'll lose all my friends by ranting at them about Canadian politics instead of doing it in this thread. Postess with the Mostest posted:To put probability into practical context, a party with a 25 per cent probability of winning has as much of a chance of winning the election as someone does of flipping a coin twice and getting "heads" both times. Unlikely — but still very possible. The actual most revealing part is when he says that a "star candidate" gives a flat 15% boost. Like the fact that it's such a nice round number says so much about how he just picked a number at random instead of bothering to look at whether or not running a high-profile candidate actually makes any difference. "Star candidate = +15%" is the kind of thing you would expect to see in a bad computer game about running an election, not in a supposedly serious poll tracker and election predictor.
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hello cbc i predict the liberals will win 0-338 seats can have money now
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Blood Boils posted:
That's why they never shoulda pera'd CI. Coulda just kept banning him once a week or so whenever he couldn't restrain himself. Easy money. For real though, support your forums and the Tax man, or were all gonna have to take the poli chat to r/canada. *shudder*
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RBC posted:Also lowtax has made a lot of money off mine and everybody else's content and i'm sorry he was too dumb to save it, but thems the breaks aint it. Hey banker man if you know of a better internet forum place then by all means give us the deets
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infernal machines posted:I'm pretty sure he's also being sued by the great state of Missouri for outstanding tax debt of like $100k, which might complicate things somewhat oh dear god what the gently caress lowta-- ohhhhhh poor guy. Suddenly being afflicted with a debilitating illness that requires major surgery sucks rear end Dreylad fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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vyelkin posted:if the forums die I'll lose all my friends by ranting at them about Canadian politics instead of doing it in this thread I think you speak for all of us here.
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American healthcare is worse than cancer
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THC posted:American healthcare is worse than cancer Thanks Obama. (no seriously, that one you can legit blame at least in part on Obama)
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infernal machines posted:I'm pretty sure he's also being sued by the great state of Missouri for outstanding tax debt of like $100k, which might complicate things somewhat If we band together we can sponsor him as a refugee
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THC posted:American healthcare is worse than cancer It's nice to have a
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Jan posted:It's nice to have a First they came for the single-use plastics and I didn't speak up because I- wait, that's not a bad idea actually?
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xtal posted:If we band together we can sponsor him as a refugee It's government oppression if I've ever seen it.
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Lobok posted:First they came for the single-use plastics and I didn't speak up because I- wait, that's not a bad idea actually? The only question I have is what the access will be like for medical/disability uses. Like straws are an easy target but make drinking a lot easier for people with physical disabilities. I’m going through a bunch doing voice therapy. I can imagine a douche being counted as a single-use plastic, although I reuse one for medical reasons daily. How will those kinds of uses be accounted for? I’m skeptical of Dougie caring for medical/disability rights.
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Arivia posted:The only question I have is what the access will be like for medical/disability uses. Like straws are an easy target but make drinking a lot easier for people with physical disabilities. I’m going through a bunch doing voice therapy. I can imagine a douche being counted as a single-use plastic, although I reuse one for medical reasons daily. How will those kinds of uses be accounted for? I’m skeptical of Dougie caring for medical/disability rights. Yeah I don't know how comprehensive it is in other states or countries that do it. There are lots of other medical examples of single-use plastic but my understanding is bans are usually centred more around basic consumer stuff like shopping bags and straws and take-out containers. Things that largely we could choose to avoid or replace. Not literally all single-use plastics including things we need to live.
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Speaking of previews. Things to look forward to on a federal level from the cons. The result of cuts to children's aid is already well underway just a few months into this train-wreck. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/budget-cuts-force-children-s-aid-layoffs-in-opioid-ravaged-brant-ont-1.4333758 quote:With more than 400 open cases and limited foster homes, the cuts will make an already difficult situation even worse.
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If I were witty I'm sure I could pen a modern satirical pamphlet mixing A Modest Proposal with Murray Rothbard.
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While I am sympathetic to Lowtax as a founder for this wonderful website, and I wish him all the best and hope he raises the money to pay off his debts, it's a shame he got rid of Laissez-Faire, the most popular subforum, because of a measly visit from the Secret Service. If he hadn't, perhaps we could have instituted some sort of public healthcare after the glorious revolution that was only months away!
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