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glowing-fish posted:. https://twitter.com/Ceilidhann/status/1105522389629259776?s=20
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It is much easier to pay more money than it is to get your idiot kid to do any kind of real work.
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Mar 12, 2019 19:58
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Piell posted:It's really dumb kids. What is sad about this, is that probably a lot of these kids have legitimate learning disabilities, and instead of just admitting that, which is nothing to be ashamed of, the parents decided to spend a million dollars to pretend they are soccer players? Like most teenagers are not stupid, and very few are lazy. Laziness is the last of most teenagers' problems. Most teenagers are just lazy about things they don't want to do. So if you have a 16 year old who only wants to paint, and you have the resources, get a diagnosis of dyslexia, and hire them a painting tutor. glowing-fish fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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Mar 12, 2019 21:00
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Piell posted:It's really dumb kids. I'm really dumb because I thought the funny part was the kid's handwriting.
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Mar 12, 2019 21:09
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Oh man, Deadspin has a bigger collection of simply hilarious details from this investigation. https://deadspin.com/here-are-all-the-incredible-details-from-the-college-ad-1833236579 The most remarkable part to me is how cavalier and up-front everyone seems to be in doing their crimes. Like, they're literally just putting it all into emails and calls with absolutely no concern.
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Mar 12, 2019 21:41
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dwarf74 posted:Oh man, Deadspin has a bigger collection of simply hilarious details from this investigation. It's cause rich people have literally always bribed their kids into big universities. Genuinely for the last thousand years. Thats just they ways it's always worked.
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Mar 12, 2019 21:49
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There's generally an awareness among people who do illegal things of what things are actually enforced (and who they are normally enforced upon), this appears to be the FBI deciding to enforce some stuff that normally is completely, 100% unenforced.
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Mar 12, 2019 22:08
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Herstory Begins Now posted:There's generally an awareness among people who do illegal things of what things are actually enforced (and who they are normally enforced upon), this appears to be the FBI deciding to enforce some stuff that normally is completely, 100% unenforced. Apparently the FBI wasn't even looking for this sort of thing but stumbled across it in the course of another investigation. I imagine the entire field office got into a fight over who got to take the easy case.
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Mar 12, 2019 22:12
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Shifty Pony posted:Apparently the FBI wasn't even looking for this sort of thing but stumbled across it in the course of another investigation. I imagine the entire field office got into a fight over who got to take the easy case.
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Mar 12, 2019 22:15
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Shifty Pony posted:Apparently the FBI wasn't even looking for this sort of thing but stumbled across it in the course of another investigation. I imagine the entire field office got into a fight over who got to take the easy case. This is what the investigation looks like for the FBI:  This also makes me wonder what the investigation that led to this was...
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Mar 12, 2019 22:35
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Is this better or worse than claiming to have bone spurs?
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Mar 12, 2019 22:37
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sticksy posted:Is this better or worse than claiming to have bone spurs? If we're still alive in fifty years we may find out.
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Mar 12, 2019 22:45
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Shifty Pony posted:Apparently the FBI wasn't even looking for this sort of thing but stumbled across it in the course of another investigation. I imagine the entire field office got into a fight over who got to take the easy case. Even by general white, white collar criminals are completely garbage at covering up their crimes standards, this one really seems to take the cake
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Mar 12, 2019 23:11
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Reading a longer story about it, it makes sense why the did it, in fact part of the article actually outlines why they took this route: Basically, "the back door is through institutional advancement", but that means you have to spend a lot of money, and the results are uncertain. The reason they did this was because it was a direct quid pro quo. That also leads back to the issues of how just this entire operation was, and who it was targeting. There are probably people with old money and lots of connections who just know how to "knows a guy who knows a guy" their children into "elite" universities, and have probably been planning for this since their kids were in preschool. The people who are caught up in this might be nouveau rich who don't have quite the same indirect resources, and so had to resort to more direct bribery.
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Mar 12, 2019 23:36
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glowing-fish posted:Reading a longer story about it, it makes sense why the did it, in fact part of the article actually outlines why they took this route: Most of your speculation would've been true 20 or 30 years ago, idk how true it is now. Interestingly, the traditional 'back-door' as he describes used to be a pretty much certain thing, but starting about 15-20 years ago schools started rejecting kids even after parents had made donations in the tens (and I think in a few cases hundreds, possibly) of millions of dollars. Obviously parents were completely loving livid, but it was a time when the Ivys were particularly able to be selective and rejecting like 1/10 billionaires kids let them pretend to still be independent and not cravenly out for cash It was lowkey a really big deal that donations stopped being a guarantee of admittance, so it makes perfect sense that these services were springing up, also 500,000 to get a kid into a school is a pittance compared to the probably 7 figures to even get you noticed as a donor wanting to get a kid in and 8 figures if you want to really give them a good chance of getting in. That said, donating money was always suggested as a part of getting kids into good schools, and like all bribes in the American system of bribery, doesn't even come with the promise of a result.
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Mar 12, 2019 23:47
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How do you guys think a certain Donald Trump, POTUS, managed to transfer from Fordham U. into U. Penn/Wharton, and why do you think they had Michael Cohen make a big deal to threaten Fordham not to reveal his transcripts? I'd be surprised if Trumpy was even close to a B student.
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Mar 13, 2019 00:39
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Zwabu posted:How do you guys think a certain Donald Trump, POTUS, managed to transfer from Fordham U. into U. Penn/Wharton, and why do you think they had Michael Cohen make a big deal to threaten Fordham not to reveal his transcripts? Actually, a Trump family friend got a job as a UPenn admissions officer and slipped him in. He undoubtedly was such a poo poo student that even money along wouldn't have been enough.
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Mar 13, 2019 01:15
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Zwabu posted:How do you guys think a certain Donald Trump, POTUS, managed to transfer from Fordham U. into U. Penn/Wharton, and why do you think they had Michael Cohen make a big deal to threaten Fordham not to reveal his transcripts?
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Mar 13, 2019 01:15
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Did the judge say that other than this, the convicted led an exemplary life in this case too?
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Mar 13, 2019 02:16
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Charlz Guybon posted:AOC vs Wells Fargo Pay careful attention to the banks language here. Particularly the distinction between "Owner" and "Operator" in a lot of transportation (and pipelines are) things don't work like one would normally expect with regards to liabilities. One would need to dig into the CFRs to get the specfics for different modes.
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Mar 13, 2019 03:30
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Boeing is going to be hammered by lawsuits https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2019/03/12/boeing-737-max-8-pilots-complained-feds-months-suspected-safety-flaw quote:Pilots repeatedly voiced safety concerns about the Boeing 737 Max 8 to federal authorities, with one captain calling the flight manual "inadequate and almost criminally insufficient" several months before Sunday's Ethiopian Air crash that killed 157 people, an investigation by The Dallas Morning News found.
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Mar 13, 2019 03:44
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Charlz Guybon posted:Boeing is going to be hammered by lawsuits The real mystery is why the gently caress the FAA hasn't grounded the drat thing yet. Even Ted Cruz is calling for an investigation. boeing practically bribed Trump and an ex executive is running the FAA
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Mar 13, 2019 04:23
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Northrop Boeing, here we come huh
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Mar 13, 2019 04:25
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To think Boeing would go the way of Pan-Am this soon!
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Mar 13, 2019 05:45
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Excited to hear about all the layoffs while the people who are responsible parachute away to greener pastures to ruin.
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Mar 13, 2019 06:32
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Cardinal Peel is backed by Murdoch, the former PM, and other big wigs. They are shocked at the allegations because he never raped people in front of them!
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Mar 13, 2019 07:13
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This guy is just begging to be arrested, but nobody will do it.  https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1105688835336388608
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Mar 13, 2019 08:02
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Shifty Pony posted:The real mystery is why the gently caress the FAA hasn't grounded the drat thing yet. Even Ted Cruz is calling for an investigation. Because the plane is safe. Most countries are grounding it as a political move.
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Mar 13, 2019 14:50
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My understanding of the matter is that the Indonesian flight had a sensor false positive a stall and the pilots didnt(couldn't?) disengage the system trying to prevent said phantom stall. And who knows what caused the Ethiopian crash, since there hasnt been a ton of information from investigators over there.
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Mar 13, 2019 15:19
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Important update on the college admissions case: The chief defendant was also, apparently, the chief cooperating witness: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-mastermind-cheating-scandal-involving-lori-laughlin-wore-wire-expose-n982421 I wonder how much this gives the charged parents an entrapment defense. Were they contacting him from the very beginning with the idea of "Lets bribe my kids into school", or were they contacting him saying "Is there anyway to get little Jenny into USC?", and then he responded "Well, we could fake her being on the Water Polo team!". Because it seems like he was offering something that, on the face of it, was a legitimate business. Isn't the defense for entrapment that they were persuaded to do something they would not have done? Will the records show that they approached him specifically because the knew he was doing things like this? As much as I like having the systemic problem exposed, and seeing corruption exposed, I also don't like the FBI entrapping people.
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Mar 13, 2019 15:39
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HootTheOwl posted:Because the plane is safe. Most countries are grounding it as a political move. Except for the fact that multiple pilots have reported that it has pitch control issues at low speed and the stall-avoidance software has issues? That's loving serious.
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Mar 13, 2019 15:54
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MA-Horus posted:Except for the fact that multiple pilots have reported that it has pitch control issues at low speed and the stall-avoidance software has issues? Even if it's pilot fuckups or not understanding the system that suggests a problem with training and/or the design of the controls. Multiple pilots shouldn't make the same mistake while also being unable to figure out what happened.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:12
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Even if it's pilot fuckups or not understanding the system that suggests a problem with training and/or the design of the controls. Multiple pilots shouldn't make the same mistake while also being unable to figure out what happened. If the Ethiopia crash winds up being for the same cause then the issue is spread across multiple airlines/nationalities so it'd be a drat big training problem if so. Like how Boeing certs the instructors who cert the pilots big.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:17
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MA-Horus posted:Except for the fact that multiple pilots have reported that it has pitch control issues at low speed and the stall-avoidance software has issues? Except you can turn that off. I don't consider "pilot error" the fault of the airplane. We pay pilots a lot of money to know how.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:22
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HootTheOwl posted:Except you can turn that off. I don't consider "pilot error" the fault of the airplane. We pay pilots a lot of money to know how. You can log off now, Muilenburg.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:24
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StealthArcher posted:You can log off now, Muilenburg. If this latest crash turns out not be "the system the pilot didn't turn off" I'll eat some poo poo. If it turns out that it's a different flaw of the aircraft I'll eat even more poo poo. Feel free to quote those and PM you favorite redtext. I'll buy it for myself. But so far there's been two accidents, one from pilot error and one that it's too early to tell.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:27
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glowing-fish posted:Important update on the college admissions case: Short version, since my text is wigging out: this is not entrapment in any way.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:28
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HootTheOwl posted:Except you can turn that off. I don't consider "pilot error" the fault of the airplane. We pay pilots a lot of money to know how. Pilots and thier training are a part of the designed system and blaming them is shifting the blame from the actually responsible parties. This is also the common tactic of the parties responsible, when these types of designed systems fail. Blame the operator.
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HootTheOwl posted:If this latest crash turns out not be "the system the pilot didn't turn off" I'll eat some poo poo. If it turns out that it's a different flaw of the aircraft I'll eat even more poo poo. On the vessel side if I saw an accident created by that type of error I would still characterize it as a failure of the vessel's safety management system (SMS). Airlines have the same safety managment systems, but they probably call them something slightly different. And it's also a failure of the regulator that approved said system.
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