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Vlex posted:The most on-brand thing for May out of those four options is an extension. She never backs down, I don't even think she knows how. The problem is that she can't secure an extension without a referendum or an election. And parliament knows this, so depending on how it goes, if she just goes and asks for an extension without a reason, that might not constitute fulfilling the instruction.
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JFairfax posted:parliament TVs streams are loving shite My stream's about 1-2 minutes behind Owlfancier's posting
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RagnarokZ posted:This is so much fun. I mean that's usually how ours works too, but hey, we are now STONG AND STRABBLE since May decided an election in 2017 would crush the saboteurs.
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I don't quite understand the strategy of anti-Brexit MPs here: doesn't this make Brexit more likely now? As in, won't hard Brexit No Dealers be far more likely to push May's deal through now, if she puts it before the house once again, if the only credible options are May'd deal or no Brexit?
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it owns that after already being found in contempt of parliament May might try and push things even further by trying anotehr vote for her deal
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Watch the Guardian's Youtube stream, I find it's been the best one so far
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Vlex posted:The most on-brand thing for May out of those four options is an extension. She never backs down, I don't even think she knows how. When she's requesting that extension I'd like to be a fly on the wall and hear the EU discuss how much confidence they have in her actually producing something worthwhile before the EU elections
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forkboy84 posted:This is honestly far stupider than I expected Now that I understand it, it's absolutely hilarious The government made a motion and then it got amended by a 4 vote majority (in a free vote) into a significantly different motion. Now the government wants to whip against the amended motion, and now at least one Tory faction is going to be pissed off
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Pochoclo posted:Watch the Guardian's Youtube stream, I find it's been the best one so far is it HD?
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I love our parliament flailing in confusion amongst the dark realities of hell world
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Essentially the government's position is weak at the moment, bercow is getting sick of them, parliament just rejected no deal, may's deal is dead, and we're at the deadline. It's all a bit weird cos what happens is gonna be heavily determined by who puts what amendments and motions up and if/how bercow enforces the prerogative of the house over the government.
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JFairfax posted:is it HD? The light bouncing off gapes’ head is blinding yes
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JFairfax posted:is it HD? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30wXiZ41Ds
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JFairfax posted:is it HD? Yeah up to 1080 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30wXiZ41Ds although the source isn't
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100 Tory abstentions, about 50 Referendumers given they voted against it. Good numbers if you want to stop Brexit.
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It's gonna be kinda darkly amusing if after all this there's a desperate third meaningful vote on March 26th and the ERG has to vote for it to make Brexit happen in the first place. Unicorn amendment (Delay to May 22nd and have a transition period until 2021) just got rejected by 210 votes
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Amendment F has failed heavily.
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JFairfax posted:parliament TVs streams are loving shite Sky News (Youtube) and BBC Parliament (iPlayer) both have it live.
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Malthouse magic got recked.
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CHOO CHOOOOOOO the Brexit train is off the rails
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Next vote is to pass the entire motion, with amendment A. So we want this to pass, I think. This would be the government getting its motion hijacked by its own rebels and party.
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Ayyyyy lmao here we loving go
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https://twitter.com/rosskempsell/status/1105914875451195393
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Lol JRM got told to get hosed.
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WhatEvil posted:I remember seeing a thing a while back, quite possibly on youtube, which was about how reporters in the uk media have changed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ygyucuDeuk Starts at about 7:10
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get hosed Malthouse wankers
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okay this is better than the others. need to get this poo poo in 4k
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I look forward to reading the book about this week in a couple of years. Good lord.
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So the final vote is on rejecting No Deal forever now?
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OwlFancier posted:Next vote is to pass the entire motion, with amendment A. So since A passed in the first place you'd except the entire motion to pass. Unless they voted it in as a poison pill.
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Also when bercow asks for an aye/nay shout is that literally just him asking "do we need to go to division on this?"Brown Moses posted:So the final vote is on rejecting No Deal forever now? In principle, yes, I think. But we still need some actual mechanism to do that.
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So wait hang on the whole motion could now fail due to the amendment that passed?
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Brown Moses posted:So the final vote is on rejecting No Deal forever now? yeah, but it doesnt actually *stop* no deal
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Mighty Steed posted:So wait hang on the whole motion could now fail due to the amendment that passed? yes, but you would expect the whole motion to fall along the same lines as amendment A
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OwlFancier posted:Also when bercow asks for an aye/nay shout is that literally just him asking "do we need to go to division on this?" Yup. They literally need to leave the room and then get back in through two separate entrances where they are counted. Parliamentary procedure in the 21st century.
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OwlFancier posted:Also when bercow asks for an aye/nay shout is that literally just him asking "do we need to go to division on this?" Yes, if he only calls for a full division of the house of there are two sides that aren't massively lop sided.
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