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Play posted:You're not getting this. I'm getting it perfectly, I just think you're over complicating it. It's pretty basic football knowledge that the same position plays differently in different schemes.
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IcePhoenix posted:I'm getting it perfectly, I just think you're over complicating it. It's pretty basic football knowledge that the same position plays differently in different schemes. Or even different players at that position in a similar scheme. Nobody would say Harrison Smith doesn't play safety because he's often near the line of scrimmage.
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lol play is a dumbass when it come to linebackers
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IcePhoenix posted:I'm getting it perfectly, I just think you're over complicating it. It's pretty basic football knowledge that the same position plays differently in different schemes. When you compared it to AP and Dalvin Cook playing differently it made me think that you didn't get what I was saying, but that's fine. In my experience playing off the ball and on the ball are different enough in every part of the job to necessitate different labels. It makes no sense whatsoever to call them by the same name, in a league where players are constantly switching teams and schemes. In any case, I'm aware of the different schemes but what confused me is that he was going into a 3-4 with the Jets, where his position would be ILB because he plays off the ball, not OLB. So I was wondering if they were actually planning to move him to 4-3 OLB or if the terminology was just getting screwy. Turns out it's just the terminology. GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:Or even different players at that position in a similar scheme. Nobody would say Harrison Smith doesn't play safety because he's often near the line of scrimmage. This isn't the same situation, either. Safeties play in the box all the time, and Harrison Smith plays deep too. In this case he's just a safety that is used in the box more than average, but still a safety. Whatever, from now on I'm gonna use SLB , MLB and WLB for strong, middle and weakside off-ball linebacker. OLBs are 3-4 on-ball outside pass rushers. Seems like a lot of places have already started using this nomenclature in any case, if you look at this depth chart that's how they do it: https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/MIN Dubious posted:lol play is a dumbass when it come to linebackers sure it's real smart to call totally different things by the same name  If I hear about a college player and he plays "outside linebacker", personally I'd like to know what position he actually plays without having to guess what scheme some random college chooses to run
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Play posted:In any case, I'm aware of the different schemes but what confused me is that he was going into a 3-4 with the Jets, where his position would be ILB because he plays off the ball, not OLB. So I was wondering if they were actually planning to move him to 4-3 OLB or if the terminology was just getting screwy. Turns out it's just the terminology. Honestly he likely would have been an olb for the jets he's a really good pass rusher
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nothing during what was said during Anthony Barr's short stint as a New York Jet suggested he was going to be anything other than an OLB, whether they're sticking with the 3-4 or converting to 4-3.
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Mar 13, 2019 01:24
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Malaria posted:Browns are going to be better than the Lions this year Browns are going to be better than the Steelers this year. 
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Mar 13, 2019 01:37
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Why don't you call olbs that rush "edge" like everyone else
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R.D. Mangles posted:this is loving underwhelming 670 this morning- wow they're freeing up all this extra cap space theyre going big!! 670 this evening - what if the ball bounced off the crossbar the other way
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I was going to be all upset about the Packers not going after one of the high profile Safeties in FA, but after seeing the numbers on that Collins deal and seeing them spend money on positions of need I think I'm good with this. The Thompson era is truly over, it seems. I'm still dumbfounded by what I've seen from some mad fans though. Like, there are actual Packer fans (not just people posting ironic/silly poo poo in here) that wanted Brown and/or Bell. LabyaMynora posted:Browns are going to be better than the Steelers this year.
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Mar 13, 2019 01:53
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Fenrir posted:I was going to be all upset about the Packers not going after one of the high profile Safeties in FA, but after seeing the numbers on that Collins deal and seeing them spend money on positions of need I think I'm good with this. The Thompson era is truly over, it seems. Brown and Bell are big names that an average fan knows about and are exciting skill positions. I think that's mostly the reason you'll see weirdo packer posting like that. It was like when I think they hired Mike Sherman, Steve Mariucci was available and everyone was clamoring for him.
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Fenrir posted:I was going to be all upset about the Packers not going after one of the high profile Safeties in FA, but after seeing the numbers on that Collins deal and seeing them spend money on positions of need I think I'm good with this. The Thompson era is truly over, it seems. I would have been fine with trading for Brown tbh. Bell not so much.
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Mar 13, 2019 01:59
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Malaria posted:Browns are going to be better than the Lions this year They were better than the Lions last year....
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Mar 13, 2019 02:04
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Some Chicago fans aren't taking the Amos move well...
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WHOOPS posted:Seems like they'll be some heavily backloaded deals. From what I've seen so far they're indeed backloaded, but it looks like most of the potential dead caps come in the first 2 seasons, so if they don't perform to expectations this year or next year then the Packers can cut them with minimal fuss. If they do perform well then they get their big pay raises and the Packers get a good player on a fair contract. Seems pretty well planned out to me.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Some Chicago fans aren't taking the Amos move well... I hate our fans.
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Whatever it was one moron. And there’s already a bunch of dudes going to that guys page to call him a piece of poo poo
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If you run an amateur reporting social media page to follow one team your brain is already irreparably broken
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What the gently caress are the bears doing I'm getting mad
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mastershakeman posted:What the gently caress are the bears doing In what are you referring to? I haven't seen anything too dumb by the Bears.
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Cordarelle Patterson and the return of Ted Larsen doesn't seem too bad.
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GNU Order posted:If you run an amateur reporting social media page to follow one team your brain is already irreparably broken Same level dudes trying to obtain press passes without qualifications.
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Bird in a Blender posted:In what are you referring to? I haven't seen anything too dumb by the Bears. After a decade playoff drought they've immediately lost a couple solid players off their excellent defense and upgraded their bottom third offense with a 3rd string rb, kick returner who will be 7th in targets , and a backup guard They have no 1st-2nd round picks and restructured mack to have more money to spend and aren't spending it. Granted they aren't the colts sitting on 100mil but come on, now is the time Pace decides to reign in free agent spending, after years of going overboard? mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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mastershakeman posted:After a decade playoff drought they've immediately lost a couple solid players off their excellent defense and upgraded their bottom third offense with a 3rd string rb, kick returner who will be 7th in targets , and a backup guard I must be missing the 2nd guy on defense because I can only think of Amos and he got way overpaid. Bears would have been silly to try and match that offer.
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Bird in a Blender posted:I must be missing the 2nd guy on defense because I can only think of Amos and he got way overpaid. Bears would have been silly to try and match that offer. Callahan, best nickel corner in the league. Despite being in nickel and getting injured, was 10th in snap count on defense. More snaps per games than akiem Hicks or Floyd, for instance mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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mastershakeman posted:Callahan, best nickel corner in the league. Despite being in nickel and getting injured, He sure won’t be the best nickel corner in the league without the Bear’s front 7 and Fangio.
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Bird in a Blender posted:I hate our fans. All fan bases are poo poo. There's awful, racist fans of every team on the drat planet, and it takes roughly 2 minutes to search and find an example. Just be content that your fan base and team has a long and storied history, has a SB victory in the books, Hall of Fame players, a vibrant culture, and is not Jacksonville.
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Abugadu posted:All fan bases are poo poo. There's awful, racist fans of every team on the drat planet, and it takes roughly 2 minutes to search and find an example. At least the Lions have two of those things. 
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Abugadu posted:All fan bases are poo poo. There's awful, racist fans of every team on the drat planet, and it takes roughly 2 minutes to search and find an example. True. And for some reason I initially read that as a bunch of messages from multiple people, not just one dumbass.
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Abugadu posted:All fan bases are poo poo. There's awful, racist fans of every team on the drat planet, and it takes roughly 2 minutes to search and find an example. for sure. the vikings had to turn off comments of an instagram post congratulating kirk cousins on his new baby because there were fans littering the feed with poo poo talk about kirk himself. it's a great measuring stick for how much of a dipshit fan you really are.
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Abugadu posted:All fan bases are poo poo. There's awful, racist fans of every team on the drat planet, and it takes roughly 2 minutes to search and find an example. The fans here generally tend to be pretty awesome. You get a few bad apples here and there but largely they're chill here.
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Well yeah SA has moderation, and repeated interactions with the same crowd. The internet at large does not, and drive-by shitposting has become the norm Out There.
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Abugadu posted:Well yeah SA has moderation, and repeated interactions with the same crowd. The internet at large does not, and drive-by shitposting has become the norm Out There. Not just moderation but an entry fee. You can't just create a new account in five seconds to continue shitposting.
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IcePhoenix posted:Not just moderation but an entry fee. You can't just create a new account in five seconds to continue shitposting. Lowtax just needs to court the shitposters with disposable income and SomethingAwful's money problems will solve themselves.
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iospace posted:The fans here generally tend to be pretty awesome. You get a few bad apples here and there but largely they're chill here. I really have to say, in the years I've posted in SAS I've really come to appreciate the vast majority of people here. I mean sure, I want all your teams to be burned to ash and the earth salted so that the Lions have some company in the dustbin of history (  ), but for the most part you're all cool dudes I think I'd enjoy hanging out and watching a game with. Can't say that about many other places on the internet, that's for sure.
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