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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

SimonCat posted:

Re-watching Willow and the making of special features on the Blu-ray. It looks like George Lucas just co-directed or ghost directed it with Ron Howard. He was the producer so maybe he was just very involved in the process, but I wonder why he just didn't direct it himself?

Lucas found the making of Star Wars to be a really draining and exhausting experience, which scared him off directing for a long time. He had creative oversight on the next two Star Wars movies but liked letting someone else be in the chair for the entire shooting day, and I imagine Willow was similar. (Especially with it being an effects heavy picture.)

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Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Parachute posted:

gremlins 2 suggested that gremlins taking over a skycraper in nyc would be pretty cool especially if there were some with special powers but i mean i can't really agree. they would gently caress everything up!

Clamp Tower was a stand-in for Trump Tower, so it would be very cool.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
get the hose ready

Groundskeeper Silly
Sep 1, 2005

My philosophy...
The first rule is:
You look good.
Is there a specific sheet made for putting over the camera & camera person to hide their reflection in a teapot or whatever or do they just like throw a moving blanket over them? Also is there a term for the blanket when they do it?

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Groundskeeper Silly posted:

Is there a specific sheet made for putting over the camera & camera person to hide their reflection in a teapot or whatever or do they just like throw a moving blanket over them? Also is there a term for the blanket when they do it?

People generally just use black cloth called duvetyne (duvy for short). Wouldn't work super well on chrome (depending) but works well for transparent reflective surfaces like a shop window.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

There's an adjustable lens mounted polarizing filter for reducing overall reflections

I'd imagine it's usually CG erasing these days.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

SimonCat posted:

Re-watching Willow and the making of special features on the Blu-ray. It looks like George Lucas just co-directed or ghost directed it with Ron Howard. He was the producer so maybe he was just very involved in the process, but I wonder why he just didn't direct it himself?

In addition to what the other poster said, Lucas had a falling out with the DGA. He supposedly pretty much directed "ROTJ", too, but didn't receive credit. Maybe he was content to do as much directing as possible without being the official director?

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


Here’s a question that’s been building over the last few months of watching a lot of newer movies (2016-2019) and have started noticing a camera effect appearing with a lot more frequency: The Last Jedi did it once or twice (I want to say during those long force/telepathy tunnel conversations s between Ren and Rey) and I saw it again the other night in Kong Skull Island (when a character was coming around a corner and the depth of field increases to focus on an item in the background).

The primary visible aspect for me is a clear warping of the dimensions of the frame’s contents, heads flatten slightly (or appear so as the focus shifts). I don’t dislike it, but it just really stands out to me whenever it happens in a way that makes me stop and notice.

Would like to know what that is I guess. New lenses being used? A focusing technique that for whatever reason is seeing a lot of use? Depth of field seems to be where it’s happening but I’m not quite there in terminology or eyeballing these things.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Peacoffee posted:

Here’s a question that’s been building over the last few months of watching a lot of newer movies (2016-2019) and have started noticing a camera effect appearing with a lot more frequency: The Last Jedi did it once or twice (I want to say during those long force/telepathy tunnel conversations s between Ren and Rey) and I saw it again the other night in Kong Skull Island (when a character was coming around a corner and the depth of field increases to focus on an item in the background).

The primary visible aspect for me is a clear warping of the dimensions of the frame’s contents, heads flatten slightly (or appear so as the focus shifts). I don’t dislike it, but it just really stands out to me whenever it happens in a way that makes me stop and notice.

Would like to know what that is I guess. New lenses being used? A focusing technique that for whatever reason is seeing a lot of use? Depth of field seems to be where it’s happening but I’m not quite there in terminology or eyeballing these things.

Are you talking about the effect discussed here?

https://www.reddit.com/r/videography/comments/4dbc53/why_does_the_video_seem_to_compress_during_focus/

It is because of the properties of anamorphic lenses, which were definitely used in Skull Island

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

If you mean stuff curving and compressing around the edges of the frame? That's the nature of anamorphic lenses. (e: What they said.) Old as the hills.
Here's a comparison. https://vimeo.com/222504711

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


Hmm my whole post doubled then deleted...oh well, shorter version:

Looking at the scenes again (as well as the one posted above) makes me think my brain just reacts weird to really fast focus racking with an anamorphic lens. Instead of tracking the focus my brain just steps back and takes in the whole frame right as the dimensions warp and so it registers almost more as a cut than a change of focus.

e: to clarify I find nothing wrong with it, I was just surprised to never have that sensation from it before to the point where I didn’t even compare it to other shots like it. My first dumb guess was that I was seeing some sort of digital correction of a racking shot.

Peacoffee fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Mar 19, 2019

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
No matter how many times I rewatch The Sopranos (huge spoilers)I always forget that Paulie is basically the only main mobster to end the series unscathed. I always block the attempted hit on Silvio out of my mind for some reason.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006


Can you find an example of it on Youtube?

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


Teenage Fansub posted:

Can you find an example of it on Youtube?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hdyWgA1xoIc

1:44 until the end.

It’s very much the same thing as in those other clips posted when I’m looking at it. I don’t know why it only recently started becoming a little jarring to me.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Gotcha. That's big ol' pro glass moving around. Bokeh (the appearance of out of focus light) comes out more ovular as it gets further from the focus point in anamorphic lenses, so a rack focus will give the out of focus element the appearance of a vertical stretch.

edit: Here's a CG simulation I saw Googling where you can see stuff blurring out at a taller ratio:


Not an expert so sorry if any of that's incorrect.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Mar 19, 2019

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Yep Anamorphic lenses. And if you're wondering *why* they have those unique weird ratio characteristics it's because the lens itself is oval.

They're really fun lenses to shoot with and add a lot of cinematic-ness to shots.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/video/features/anamorphic-lenses-key-widescreen-cinematic-imagery

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


Neat. Maybe I’m just seeing the technique being used by really nice new cameras. I was watching a lot of restored silent film prior to this, so maybe I just culture shocked myself. Thanks for indulging what has been a fairly indulgent question.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Peacoffee posted:

Neat. Maybe I’m just seeing the technique being used by really nice new cameras. I was watching a lot of restored silent film prior to this, so maybe I just culture shocked myself. Thanks for indulging what has been a fairly indulgent question.

Anamorphic lenses are actually very old and doesn't really have anything to do with new cameras. Often they're decades old lenses that are still used (and of course there are new ones)! You just usually see it in a certain breed of directors/DP (generally the Spielberg type). They ain't cheap to buy or rent.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Was John Malkovich legitimately drunk in Bird Box?
Either he's a phenomenally good actor, or he is actually drunk here - he's got the glazed eyes and slack jaw to perfection.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

TF CURES GENERATOR posted:

Was John Malkovich legitimately drunk in Bird Box?
Either he's a phenomenally good actor, or he is actually drunk here - he's got the glazed eyes and slack jaw to perfection.



Que no los dos?

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

In Event Horizon, when Smith discovers the bomb that Dr. Weir planted on the Lewis and Clark, why didn't he just press the "disarm" button :confused:

I was also noticing that the ship played on the crew members' fears. But some of them didn't seem to have any referenced, or I was wondering if someone could clarify:

captain miller: left crewmember to die in fire
dr. weir: wife committed suicide
peters: something about her disabled son's legs?

the other characters (Starck, Cooper, DJ, Justin) don't have anything mentioned.

edit: some of them appear to be mentioned in this video (cooper was afraid of losing someone he personally cared about, DJ's fear was being dissected alive as a result of a childhood operation, hence his surgical scar on his chest), apparently a lot of the extra footage was lost. that sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLu52bf-J5Q

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feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
That's because Event Horizon is a loving mess. It was hacked apart in editing to within an inch of its life so that likely has something to do with your specific issue.

That flick seems to get a pass from folks for being a fun piece of space horror, but I couldn't help but feel like it was a huge missed opportunity of a film which would have been better under any more interesting director. Like, the vision of a hell dimension is some 90s music video shots of some people with streaks of blood on their faces? Such creativity! I get that they probably had much more gruesome imagery that they couldn't show, but the lack of imagination is what gets me, not the lack of gore.

e: though I felt the same about Nightmare on Elm street so feel free to ignore my opinion. If you have a perfect setup for some surreal imagery, don't waste my drat time with a couple half-assed setpieces. But at least Nightmare on Elm Street is a solid movie outside of that.

feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Mar 25, 2019

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I think NOES 1 has a ton of great imagery.

Parachute
May 18, 2003

Teenage Fansub posted:

I think NOES 1 has a ton of great imagery.

for real

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


https://letterboxd.com/easydiff/list/end-credits-rap/

Am I missing any? I know I am, just curious if any of you can think of any?

double nine
Aug 8, 2013


Were those practical effects or CGI?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


double nine posted:

Were those practical effects or CGI?

All practical. They built an entire room-sized gimble and screwed down appliances to make the spinning room (like Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo would do a few years later), and this was just an upside-down room with a hole they dumped blood through with the footage played backwards.

The "freddy presses through the wall" was literally Robert Englund on a stepladder and some cheesecloth.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Easy Diff posted:

https://letterboxd.com/easydiff/list/end-credits-rap/

Am I missing any? I know I am, just curious if any of you can think of any?

Two songs that came to mind, but don’t qualify for various reasons
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZFQT-ntJs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tFOaxRu5afo

And one that I thought would fit the bill until I listened to it again :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaACrT6Ydik

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Mar 26, 2019

Parachute
May 18, 2003

Easy Diff posted:

https://letterboxd.com/easydiff/list/end-credits-rap/

Am I missing any? I know I am, just curious if any of you can think of any?

Dream Warriors - not rap but a titular track about the movie. not 100% sure on if it was played during the credits

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Parachute posted:

Dream Warriors - not rap but a titular track about the movie. not 100% sure on if it was played during the credits

Wasn't that a hair metal song by Dokken though? I didn't put Ray Parker's "Ghostbusters Theme" on the list for just this reason - not a rap. It's a very specific genre, I know.

Parachute
May 18, 2003
it was, and i can agree with your sentiment about not wanting to add it to that list but also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noLPhZvcBpw

this is an incredible tie-in video for the movie

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.

Easy Diff posted:

The "freddy presses through the wall" was literally Robert Englund on a stepladder and some cheesecloth.

Wait, seriously? That looks so cool and creepy, I would have never thought it was done with poo poo you can find at the grocery store.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clEi7TOebJs

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Apparently Deepest Bluest (Shark’s Fin) plays during the credits of Deep Blue Sea.
Edit: Did you just add it to the list or am I that blind?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cYcdBVQ8NM

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 26, 2019

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Easy Diff posted:

https://letterboxd.com/easydiff/list/end-credits-rap/

Am I missing any? I know I am, just curious if any of you can think of any?

This is the classic example!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNS4TQ-vM1o

If you want confirmation this plays during the credits it's here: https://www.artofthetitle.com/title/dragnet/

It's Dan Ackroyd and Tom Hanks rapping btw

Edit: Oh man this brings back memories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT_QRKfv8H4

CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Mar 26, 2019

Parachute
May 18, 2003
does this count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01trMZPdjmk&t=83s

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

This is the classic example!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNS4TQ-vM1o

If you want confirmation this plays during the credits it's here: https://www.artofthetitle.com/title/dragnet/

It's Dan Ackroyd and Tom Hanks rapping btw

Edit: Oh man this brings back memories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT_QRKfv8H4

Dan Ack likes rap, he even had a scene with tupac

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


I understand that "Rap Song explaining the plot of the movie" is a very specific genre, and we are all the poorer because Will Smith isn't rapping anymore.

Think of the Suicide Squad rap we could have gotten!

Almost Blue
Apr 18, 2018
I'm pretty sure the first Breakin' ends with a rap which recounts the plot of the movie and invites the viewer to watch Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo.

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Did they put the Deadpool rap in at the end as well?

I’m very into this list, though.

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