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Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
Lol the UK is going further and further into a dystopian police state.



Balancing Liberty and Security in the Fight Against Terrorist Propaganda

MARCH 14, 2019 | INTEL BRIEF

Bottom Line Up Front

A new U.K. law criminalizes accessing terrorist propaganda online, punishable by a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

Responding to the ubiquity of this propaganda, the new law updates existing legislation that criminalized collecting or archiving terrorist materials.

Proponents claim that these laws will prevent people from accessing terrorist propaganda, thus lowering the chances of online radicalization.

Human rights advocates have criticized the laws, despite exceptions for researchers, academics and others who access the materials for legitimate purposes.

In February, as part of its Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Act, the United Kingdom passed a law that criminalizes accessing terrorist propaganda and other related materials online, punishable by a sentence of up to 15 years in prison. A previous U.K. law included language criminalizing collecting or archiving terrorist materials, but policymakers removed this language from the new law, thus broadening its mandate to account for the prevalence of streaming propaganda videos. The U.K. used this law to prosecute individuals who had downloaded and stored propaganda and materials on their computers.

Proponents claim that the new law will deter individuals from accessing terrorist materials online, which will prevent or reduce radicalization. They also say that the law will not affect journalists, academics, terrorism analysts or others who have legitimate cause to examine propaganda or happen upon it accidentally. These individuals will reportedly be able to provide evidence of their credentials or activities to demonstrate that they are not accessing the materials for nefarious purposes, and the burden of proof will then be on prosecutors to prove otherwise.

This type of law may offer states an option for prosecuting returning foreign fighters from conflicts in Iraq and Syria. Countries have debated how to handle returnees since the collapse of the so-called Islamic State’s caliphate. Some states have prosecuted returnees for crimes committed abroad or for their membership in IS or other militant groups, but many cite the difficulty of collecting evidence that can be used in court. The new law gives the British government more leeway in prosecuting returnees that were engaged in producing or disseminating terrorist propaganda online, either in addition to or instead of tangible evidence of other crimes that may have been committed on the battlefield. The U.K. has favored measures like refusing entry and stripping citizenship, recently revoking the citizenship of 19-year-old Shamima Begum. That solution is not sustainable, however. Rendering individuals stateless violates international law. Further, refusing foreign fighters (and their family members) reentry or stranding dangerous individuals in states recovering from conflict may make peacekeeping efforts more difficult or exacerbate future conflict. As Ali Soufan recently noted in a discussion with former CIA director John Brennan, ‘By taking citizenship away from all those people who traveled to join the Islamic State, we are creating citizens of the Islamic State.’

The new U.K. law is part of a broader trend, especially among European governments, of restricting access to certain types of materials online, especially terrorist propaganda and other content. American social media companies like Facebook and Twitter have also made efforts to remove offensive or allegedly dangerous materials from their platforms, sometimes via automated processes. However, this attempt to scrub social media of terrorist content may make prosecuting returning foreign fighters more difficult and impede other intelligence efforts. The United Nations Special Rapporteur on the right to privacy has raised objections to the law, noting that the restrictions indicate a trend towards criminalizing thoughts, not actions. States face the difficult task of balancing their national security interests with fundamental rights and freedoms. However, legislation that criminalizes accessing certain kinds of information risks a chilling effect on legitimate research and analysis. It may also have the unintended consequence of states being unable to develop a more nuanced understanding of terrorist groups and their activities and may even hinder states’ ability to hold perpetrators accountable or prevent future conflict.

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Bored As gently caress posted:

Lol the UK is going further and further into a dystopian police state.



Balancing Liberty and Security in the Fight Against Terrorist Propaganda

MARCH 14, 2019 | INTEL BRIEF

Bottom Line Up Front

A new U.K. law criminalizes accessing terrorist propaganda online, punishable by a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

Responding to the ubiquity of this propaganda, the new law updates existing legislation that criminalized collecting or archiving terrorist materials.

Proponents claim that these laws will prevent people from accessing terrorist propaganda, thus lowering the chances of online radicalization.

Human rights advocates have criticized the laws, despite exceptions for researchers, academics and others who access the materials for legitimate purposes.

In February, as part of its Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Act, the United Kingdom passed a law that criminalizes accessing terrorist propaganda and other related materials online, punishable by a sentence of up to 15 years in prison. A previous U.K. law included language criminalizing collecting or archiving terrorist materials, but policymakers removed this language from the new law, thus broadening its mandate to account for the prevalence of streaming propaganda videos. The U.K. used this law to prosecute individuals who had downloaded and stored propaganda and materials on their computers.

Proponents claim that the new law will deter individuals from accessing terrorist materials online, which will prevent or reduce radicalization. They also say that the law will not affect journalists, academics, terrorism analysts or others who have legitimate cause to examine propaganda or happen upon it accidentally. These individuals will reportedly be able to provide evidence of their credentials or activities to demonstrate that they are not accessing the materials for nefarious purposes, and the burden of proof will then be on prosecutors to prove otherwise.

This type of law may offer states an option for prosecuting returning foreign fighters from conflicts in Iraq and Syria. Countries have debated how to handle returnees since the collapse of the so-called Islamic State’s caliphate. Some states have prosecuted returnees for crimes committed abroad or for their membership in IS or other militant groups, but many cite the difficulty of collecting evidence that can be used in court. The new law gives the British government more leeway in prosecuting returnees that were engaged in producing or disseminating terrorist propaganda online, either in addition to or instead of tangible evidence of other crimes that may have been committed on the battlefield. The U.K. has favored measures like refusing entry and stripping citizenship, recently revoking the citizenship of 19-year-old Shamima Begum. That solution is not sustainable, however. Rendering individuals stateless violates international law. Further, refusing foreign fighters (and their family members) reentry or stranding dangerous individuals in states recovering from conflict may make peacekeeping efforts more difficult or exacerbate future conflict. As Ali Soufan recently noted in a discussion with former CIA director John Brennan, ‘By taking citizenship away from all those people who traveled to join the Islamic State, we are creating citizens of the Islamic State.’

The new U.K. law is part of a broader trend, especially among European governments, of restricting access to certain types of materials online, especially terrorist propaganda and other content. American social media companies like Facebook and Twitter have also made efforts to remove offensive or allegedly dangerous materials from their platforms, sometimes via automated processes. However, this attempt to scrub social media of terrorist content may make prosecuting returning foreign fighters more difficult and impede other intelligence efforts. The United Nations Special Rapporteur on the right to privacy has raised objections to the law, noting that the restrictions indicate a trend towards criminalizing thoughts, not actions. States face the difficult task of balancing their national security interests with fundamental rights and freedoms. However, legislation that criminalizes accessing certain kinds of information risks a chilling effect on legitimate research and analysis. It may also have the unintended consequence of states being unable to develop a more nuanced understanding of terrorist groups and their activities and may even hinder states’ ability to hold perpetrators accountable or prevent future conflict.

That's a clever way of suppressing evidence for the upcoming bloody sunday trial I guess.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010




Well thanks for your time Mr. Shanahan, it’s been a pleasure having you in the federal government

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Lindsey is being even more of a piece of poo poo than usual today.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002




Who wants to guess what kind of kompromat is being used to make him do this?

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

It's why the "social justice warrior" stereotype originally came about and it's extremely discouraging that people are still loving behaving that way after 2016.

poo poo, Monty Python was making fun of it well before that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BpfwazhUA


lol what a stupid rear end in a top hat.

BUG JUG
Feb 17, 2005



DoktorLoken posted:

Who wants to guess what kind of kompromat is being used to make him do this?

It's literally two pictures of him kissing a dude but because he's from SC and also somewhat self hating them getting out would be literally worse than death.

jerman999
Apr 26, 2006

This is a lex imperfecta
Why is Avenatti losing his mind over Twitter slap fights?

https://twitter.com/popehat/status/1106336031823921152?s=21

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.
loving lmao Avenatti replied

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1106339076947480576?s=19

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


https://twitter.com/popehat/status/1106341562240229376?s=21

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
Cool

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
The left will never stop eating itself.

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Chichevache posted:

The left will never stop eating itself.

Avenatti is not "the left"

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Say what you will about fascists, you've got to admire their ability to unite against us.

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Chichevache posted:

Say what you will about fascists, you've got to admire their ability to unite against us.

So true

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Lou Takki posted:

Avenatti is not "the left"

Point proven.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
While the idea of a circular firing squad on the left is super duper a thing, Avenatti may not exactly be the best thing to point to as an example. Dude was always a horrendous rear end in a top hat going after an even bigger horrendous rear end in a top hat that just barely scraped into 'enemy of my enemy' status.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/starsandstripes/status/1106366906502541312

Remember this guy from last year, he apparently went to Iraq for a couple days while out on bond.

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

Bored As gently caress posted:

A new U.K. law criminalizes accessing terrorist propaganda online, punishable by a prison sentence of up to 15 years.

So no more brits in D&D then?

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/starsandstripes/status/1106366906502541312

Remember this guy from last year, he apparently went to Iraq for a couple days while out on bond.

Ok, this goober is p cool.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

Reign Of Pain posted:

So no more brits in D&D then?

It has an exception for researchers, academics, and I'm sure students researching the topics... but, yeah, probably.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

bird food bathtub posted:

While the idea of a circular firing squad on the left is super duper a thing, Avenatti may not exactly be the best thing to point to as an example. Dude was always a horrendous rear end in a top hat going after an even bigger horrendous rear end in a top hat that just barely scraped into 'enemy of my enemy' status.

Look at the right circle the wagons around Trump, Tucker Carlson, Bill Oreilly, Chris Kyle, literally every douche ever. Avenatti may not be the best example, but the fact that we are all so eager to kick him off our demonstrates exactly how different we are.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/starsandstripes/status/1106366906502541312

Remember this guy from last year, he apparently went to Iraq for a couple days while out on bond.

these guys should hang out

https://twitter.com/SeattlePD/status/1106297991009230848

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

KirbyKhan posted:

Ok, this goober is p cool.

No he's not. It'd be hilarious if it weren't for the fact that he was on a mental health hold for two months to see if he was competent enough to stand trial for his APC joy ride. It'd be funny if it weren't for the fact that he was looking up how to buy bomb-making components. He is either a highly disturbed individual with mental health issues, and/or a failed wannabe homegrown terrorist who was going to try to commit terrorist attacks.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Bored As gently caress posted:

No he's not. It'd be hilarious if it weren't for the fact that he was on a mental health hold for two months to see if he was competent enough to stand trial for his APC joy ride. It'd be funny if it weren't for the fact that he was looking up how to buy bomb-making components. He is either a highly disturbed individual with mental health issues, and/or a failed wannabe homegrown terrorist who was going to try to commit terrorist attacks.

It’s funny

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


mosque shooting in NZ: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47578798

I'm seeing from People On The Internet that there are at least 30 dead or injured, not confirmed in the BBC article. Also apparently some guy posted on 8chan that he was going to do this but I'm obviously not posting that

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Bored As gently caress posted:

No he's not. It'd be hilarious if it weren't for the fact that he was on a mental health hold for two months to see if he was competent enough to stand trial for his APC joy ride. It'd be funny if it weren't for the fact that he was looking up how to buy bomb-making components. He is either a highly disturbed individual with mental health issues, and/or a failed wannabe homegrown terrorist who was going to try to commit terrorist attacks.

It’s loving hilarious. It’s Caro meets Stripes.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
looks like this might be the shooter:

https://twitter.com/BrentonTarrant/

not seeing NWS stuff but theres a manifesto download and crazy writing on mags and equipment

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

mosque shooting in NZ: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47578798

I'm seeing from People On The Internet that there are at least 30 dead or injured, not confirmed in the BBC article. Also apparently some guy posted on 8chan that he was going to do this but I'm obviously not posting that

gently caress! Glad my family is on the North Island. Of course nothing on the US cable news channels yet....CNN and MSNBC crying about Trump and for some reason Laura Ingraham is interviewing known loving idiot Dan Patrick about O'Rourke

Hot Karl Marx posted:

looks like this might be the shooter:

https://twitter.com/BrentonTarrant/

not seeing NWS stuff but theres a manifesto download and crazy writing on mags and equipment

Is some of the poo poo thats written on his gear in Maori? Fucker was posting like a demon on the 12th which would be 3 days ago there now.

Looks like he's afraid of immigrants and seemed worried about birthrates.

Reign Of Pain fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Mar 15, 2019

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost
Corey Booker making a real hard play for president by dating Rosario Dawson

http://www.newser.com/story/272595/cory-booker-has-a-girlfriend.html

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/AP/status/11063...ingawful.com%2F

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
But Muslims are the problem!!!

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
He told people to subscribe to pewdiepie at the end of his livestreamed shooting as well. Don't watch the video, it's pretty horrible

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

Hot Karl Marx posted:

He told people to subscribe to pewdiepie at the end of his livestreamed shooting as well. Don't watch the video, it's pretty horrible

They just suspended his account

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

Hot Karl Marx posted:

He told people to subscribe to pewdiepie at the end of his livestreamed shooting as well. Don't watch the video, it's pretty horrible

Social media will certainly not have had a single thing to do with this happening. At all. Ever.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

Hexyflexy posted:

Social media will certainly not have had a single thing to do with this happening. At all. Ever.

Checking in on our NZ goons...

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Given that the Democratic base is increasingly unwilling to support a blank check for the government of Israel to continue expanding its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, I'm sure Nancy will champion the need to end oppressive policies, collective punishment and-BAHAHAHA
https://twitter.com/AIPAC/status/1106333603796054018?s=09

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



The video is horrific, I came across it scrolling for news on Twitter.

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug
The Twitter account got suspended while I was looking at it and only had one image open. Looks like he posted a manifesto or some poo poo 2 hours ago but I hadn’t opened it.

His Twitter feed was just crazy right wing poo poo including a upload of a “secret Muslim manifesto for Muslims only: DO NOT SHARE” that was obviously fake and made by some oval office who is now culpable for the deaths of 30 innocent people.

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Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
don't watch the stream... I made the mistake :(

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