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Ghost Leviathan posted:The tories already expect to let their business chums make out like bandits going all post-Soviet disaster capitalism on post-Brexit UK, and drat the consequences. They're probably entirely happy to burn down the country if they can rule the ashes. Sure but post-Brexit Britain would be the same kind of example that the Post-Soviet Russia serves for all the remaining Second World countries.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Sure but post-Brexit Britain would be the same kind of example that the Post-Soviet Russia serves for all the remaining Second World countries. You say that like anyone learned anything.
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British Beat: Brexit Brings Baleful Baying By Bratty Boys. Be Best.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You say that like anyone learned anything. China, Cuba, and Vietnam learned plenty.
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twoday posted:who the gently caress is scraeming "BREXIT" at the house of commons. show yourself, coward. i will never brexit
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Brexit is the UK's Afghanistan.
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Avirosb posted:Brexit is the UK's Afghanistan. Nah mate Afghanistan II was our Afghanistan I, Brexit is our gritty reboot of Suez
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Obliterati posted:Nah mate Afghanistan II was our Afghanistan I, Brexit is our gritty reboot of Suez Afghanistan II was back in 1878 and worked out fairly well though and tbh the 1842 retreat from Kabul actually works p. well as a comparison to Brexit since it was an all-time military disaster that was self-inflicted through stupid decisions and ineffectual leadership LGD has issued a correction as of 10:09 on Mar 15, 2019 |
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LGD posted:Afghanistan II was back in 1878 and worked out fairly well though Goddamnit I lost count of our military humiliations in Afghanistan, again, but yeah I can't stop thinking of the Flashman book where he just nopes out of the Kabul retreat
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You say that like anyone learned anything. Oligarchs learned they can get even richer by fireselling the whole country.
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Lighting it on fire first is just the natural prerequisite.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:"tragedy of the commons" yeah, house of commons
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Can EU members start making demands of the UK in exchange for not blowing up their dumb island? Like could Spain say "if you want us to agree to the extension, give us Gibraltar"?
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Goon Danton posted:Can EU members start making demands of the UK in exchange for not blowing up their dumb island? Like could Spain say "if you want us to agree to the extension, give us Gibraltar"? I think this is the best possible thing that could happen now. 
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Goon Danton posted:Can EU members start making demands of the UK in exchange for not blowing up their dumb island? Like could Spain say "if you want us to agree to the extension, give us Gibraltar"? Yes absolutely.
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lol my wife's old friend is still whole hog on Brexit, based on her recent post (because she thinks it'll stop
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Goon Danton posted:Can EU members start making demands of the UK in exchange for not blowing up their dumb island? Like could Spain say "if you want us to agree to the extension, give us Gibraltar"? The Brits will take Benidorm hostage in response.
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galagazombie posted:It seems it's in the EU's best interest to reject any extension no? They want leaving the EU to look and be as excruciatingly painful as possible to discourage anyone else from trying this. After all if one country can just leave the EU without too much hassle then the tragedy of the commons kicks in and everyone tries to leave and the EU ceases to exist. They kinda have to make an example.of the UK and mount its head on a pike for all to see. Also it's not so much that leaving is painful, it's that leaving with a dysfunctional government led by a bunch of clowns is painful. Granted, that probably applies to most countries at the moment, but I'm sure there's no shortage of nativist politicians who look to Brexit and think, "well, we wouldn't fail that badly"
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That all depends on if they've given up on 'no brexit'. The best possible outcome, ignoring this threads fetishistic lust for Brit death, is for brexit not to happen. I think the most unbelievable thing for the EU is that May's government hasn't collapsed. It really looked like it would at multiple points and i'm sure they were getting ready for better negotiations with a new government. But here we are. The idea that the EU is already in destroy Britain mode is just a fantasy of this thread because you're all loving weird and think normal everyday people should pay the price for what Lord Smithington Smithe the IVth did in 1858.
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Regarde Aduck posted:The idea that the EU is already in destroy Britain mode is just a fantasy of this thread because you're all loving weird and think normal everyday people should pay the price for what Lord Smithington Smithe the IVth did in 1858. I don't think they want to destroy Britain, but it makes sense that they don't want to make it super-easy to bail on the EU. It's a significant commitment. 
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counterpoint: perfidious Albion must be punished
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sullat posted:Also it's not so much that leaving is painful, it's that leaving with a dysfunctional government led by a bunch of clowns is painful. Granted, that probably applies to most countries at the moment, but I'm sure there's no shortage of nativist politicians who look to Brexit and think, "well, we wouldn't fail that badly" It would have been so easy for the UK to simply adopt the Norway status and have a relatively good outcome. It would have been so simple. The current near-catastrophe is tragic and unnecessary.
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Surely for businesses the uncertainty is worse than the inevitable wound in whatever form its coming. Is the best thing for the country not to just do *something* rather than just delay and make the uncertainty continue, at which point even more businesses gently caress off to the EU or elsewhere
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Nocturtle posted:It would have been so easy for the UK to simply adopt the Norway status and have a relatively good outcome. It would have been so simple. The current near-catastrophe is tragic and unnecessary. If Labour somehow gets to be in charge, they'll go for the Norway thing, right?
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I'm pretty sure that priority number one for the EU at this point is to just get this whole farce over and done with one way or another.
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the thing is Norway deals with the same “problem” that was the whole rationale for the uk leaving the eu to begin with (influx of brown people) so to have that kind of status was never the end goal when’s the next house of gammons vote. I want more members to breach a 3 line whip and say gently caress it I’ll vote how I want
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:counterpoint: perfidious Albion must be punished how is subjugating mostly poor and marginalized populations to American healthcare and food standards going to punish the Crown, the City and Canary Wharf
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dont be mean to me posted:how is subjugating mostly poor and marginalized populations to American healthcare and food standards going to punish the Crown, the City and Canary Wharf It seems to me that the hardcore group of people who want to leave desire a no deal Brexit for the ultimate goal of privatizing nearly everything and giving their speculating friends first dibs on all housing and businesses that have failed to kickstart an even worse wealth extractive economy. They desire the chaos and loving the poor over because of the profits it gets them.
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:the thing is Norway deals with the same “problem” that was the whole rationale for the uk leaving the eu to begin with (influx of brown people) so to have that kind of status was never the end goal Achieving a good Brexit outcome (Norway or similar) required the UK to seriously confront and refute exactly the racist sentiment that fueled the Leave vote. Instead they handed the DUP the balance of power. Everything went just exactly wrong.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:They desire the chaos and loving the poor over because of the profits it gets them. Eventually that's going to bite them in the arse, that's how stuff like the french revolution gets started.
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They'll be out of ideas in 2 years and end up putting the monarchy back in charge
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The Narrator posted:Dutch is definitely uglier than German Dutch is just Clown German. Which gives it an endearingly goofy quality to replace the guttural orc speech of Germany.
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Grape posted:Dutch is just Clown German. Which gives it an endearingly goofy quality to replace the guttural orc speech of Germany. 
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Regarde Aduck posted:That all depends on if they've given up on 'no brexit'. The best possible outcome, ignoring this threads fetishistic lust for Brit death, is for brexit not to happen. I think the most unbelievable thing for the EU is that May's government hasn't collapsed. It really looked like it would at multiple points and i'm sure they were getting ready for better negotiations with a new government. But here we are. I mean you're right. But lol at acting like the era of British crimes is deep in the misty mysterious past.
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Regarde Aduck posted:That all depends on if they've given up on 'no brexit'. The best possible outcome, ignoring this threads fetishistic lust for Brit death, is for brexit not to happen. I think the most unbelievable thing for the EU is that May's government hasn't collapsed. It really looked like it would at multiple points and i'm sure they were getting ready for better negotiations with a new government. But here we are. No one is lusting for Brit death. England was always the problem.
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Mackers posted:No one is lusting for Brit death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7woEXovruc[/quote]
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https://twitter.com/FiremanSamPlots/status/927435129785540608
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hey there folks, brexiting hard or hardly brexiting??
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Regarde Aduck: Now I know at one point Britain was responsible for many bads, but it's just so distant and unknown at this point, who can say what they were or where they happened? If only we knew... *Pakistani and Indian nukes fly overhead in opposite directions. Regarde Aduck: If only we knew....
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