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doomrider7 posted:I don't know how they tie-in, but there were some seasons of an animated series of this that apparently built up the world. Again not sure how it ties into the movies proper. I'm gonna assume 'it doesn't' as a rule for TV spinoffs.
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Let’s all just take a moment to appreciate how far the medium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wAVpcvIrQM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G5XI61Y9ms I still think this looks awful but everywhere I'm seeing is like "this actually looks good now!" and I don't get it.
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Mar 12, 2019 14:10
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Macaluso posted:I still think this looks awful but everywhere I'm seeing is like "this actually looks good now!" and I don't get it. It looks better.
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Mar 12, 2019 14:39
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It's better, but not good. At least it's showing an inkling of personality, even if that personality is pretty "blah"
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Mar 12, 2019 14:40
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If the original didn’t exist to compare it to, it would look like an okay movie.
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Mar 12, 2019 14:41
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At least the genie isn’t a 3D blue will Smith all the time I Guess???
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In other news, I’m currently rewatching Ratatouille and this movie is amazing. Might very well be my favorite Pixar movie. I forgot how funny it was! Ian Holm as the bad guy (who is also short as a hobbit, I just realized) is cracking me up.
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ALFbrot posted:It's better, but not good. At least it's showing an inkling of personality, even if that personality is pretty "blah" I dunno, I think with that footage we're into "good enough" territory now, even if that ain't "great." The reviews will tell. Maybe it won't be a classic but I actually can see myself going to watch it in a premium theater showing (provided the reviews are "good enough" of course.)
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BigglesSWE posted:In other news, I’m currently rewatching Ratatouille and this movie is amazing. Might very well be my favorite Pixar movie. I forgot how funny it was! It's not just funny, but I always find it quite touching as well. I just love Anton Ego. The way he's introduced and the way he responds to Remy. I recently watched Coco for the first time. To be honest I was disappointed in it. It looks interesting (and at times gorgeous) and I feel like I learned some things about Mexican Culture. But the movie self felt very flat and predictable.
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THANK YOU I just can't get into Coco. Maybe it's because my family was lovely? I don't know. But it's not my jam and I can't figure out why. I love every individual aspect of it, but put together I just want to fall asleep.
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Darth TNT posted:It's not just funny, but I always find it quite touching as well. I just love Anton Ego. The way he's introduced and the way he responds to Remy. I thought it was incredibly good and beautiful looking, but I 100% agree with that sentiment. The instant that Ernesto died in his backstory from the bell falling on him I knew he wasn't the kids real ancestor. Ditto for the down on his luck skeleton being his real ancestor. Of the two movies about Day of the Dead, I honestly liked Book of Life better.
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^^ Imo, Book of Life is too Christian-colonial with its Tale of Job take with the Good/Evil struggle. Coco tracks more towards the syncretic cultural with the ofrendas being slightly martyr-saint veneration. The minute Skeleton Hobo Dad ran from Calavera Border Patrol I turned to my wife and said "That's gonna be the dad". I think what works about Coco is that it captures the broad strokes of family members you have (esp as a latinx with ties to foreign countries). The overbearing but loving grandmother, the bratty nerdy cousin, the big oaf cousin, the shrewlike aunt that gives you The Look, the chubby comic relief relatives... the twins. That's all something I can look to my family tree and see reflected, so it was something both personal and relatable. There's a concept in LatAM studies dealing with the annexation of Mexican territories called The Wound (La Herida) whereby the familiar became foreign and estranged suddenly, and I think the work draws upon that subconsciously. Part of why the story doesn't quite click is because Miguel's antagonist goes from Social Norms to De La Cruz, and it kind of quickly papers over this generational pain of being disconnected from family and being the odd man out to kind of comic booky villainy. There's a dark mirror there to Miguel's pursuit that is a little underdeveloped as well. But goddamn if the music scene with Mama Coco doesn't get me every time. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Mar 14, 2019 |
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FilthyImp posted:^^ Not religious in the slightest so I had to look up the Tale of Job thing and I'm not quite sure I follow how it was done in Book of Life. I just liked since it felt more universally relatable to me in terms of it's overall message of being the adult son who is the odd one out of the family and being held in lower opinion by your parent for not falling in line with a family business that while you're good at, you find distasteful and not the career you want and those people actually being the ones to see that fault and coming to accept you and I kind of felt that Book of Life did the social norms antagonism better since it showed how it showed how it negatively impacted both Manolo and Joaquin. I do find the awkward family thing relatable as well since my situation is similar(Hispanic from PR with lots of extended family if different quirks).
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poo poo, did I misremember BoL? I recall Muerte and Devilguy making a wager over souls or and the ability to mess with human lives? That's what I meant with it feeling slightly Christian-filtered.
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FilthyImp posted:poo poo, did I misremember BoL? I recall Muerte and Devilguy making a wager over souls or and the ability to mess with human lives? That's what I meant with it feeling slightly Christian-filtered. Oh that no. They DO wager, but it's on who the girl will fall in love with. The wager was switching realms since Xibalba(the Devil guy) is tired of ruling over the land of the forgotten which is a depressing gray wasteland and wants to switch with his wife La Muerte's realm which is an eternally festive party realm. A big part is that neither can interfere with their lives, but Xibalba cheats twice. First by giving Joaquin the Medal of Life that protects him from harm, and later by sending the poisoned snake to the girl and making a Faustian deal with Manolo. I guess you could make a sort of religious reading there, but it feels more universal than strictly religious since Xibalba tilts more towards the idea that humanities more negative aspects(though he's not evil) while La Murte tilts and sees their better qualities. I really need to watch that movie again to fully parse things better.
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Queen Combat posted:THANK YOU My family was loving and good and it still didn't connect with me. Though I will admit that seeing so many dead people being celebrated did remind me that I miss my parents and that I hate cancer.  I suppose that that counts as a connection.Also shame on me for failing to mention the music of Coco, which was also great. I had guitars playing in my head for the rest of the day. I think the predictable plot just did a massive disservice to an otherwise well crafted movie, causing the whole to actually be less than the individual parts.
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Coco is a curious film. As stated above, it’s very clear where the movie is going and there are no real surprises to speak of. But it’s the first movie in 20 years to make me cry, so clearly it hits a nerve somewhere. I like it quite a bit, even if I think that Inside Out was more creatively playful.
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I'm still disappointed that Inside Out didn't have someone's inner control room be the Megazord.
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Someone pointed out that Pixar repeatedly turns an imaginative concept into corporate bureaucracy and I can't stop being sour about it.
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Das Boo posted:Someone pointed out that Pixar repeatedly turns an imaginative concept into corporate bureaucracy and I can't stop being sour about it. Can you elaborate more on that? I've heard stuff about this with the whole Lasseter fiasco, but not the exact full details.
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doomrider7 posted:Can you elaborate more on that? I've heard stuff about this with the whole Lasseter fiasco, but not the exact full details. They mean in their movies. Not all of them but definitely a few. Inside Out: the human mind is like a corporation staffed by different emotions. Coco: the land of the dead has an immigration department. Monsters Inc., it's right there in the title.
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Sir Lemming posted:They mean in their movies. Not all of them but definitely a few. Inside Out: the human mind is like a corporation staffed by different emotions. Coco: the land of the dead has an immigration department. Monsters Inc., it's right there in the title. Ah ok. That actually makes a lot of sense and I hadn't noticed that.
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It's an effective concept because it immediately grounds the seemingly outlandish in a relatable setting and allows for plenty of easy jokes through contrasting the fantastical elements with the mundanity of professional work. That said, the idea of a bureaucratised afterlife predates Coco by quite a bit. It's surprisingly common in mythology and has found its way into a number of films, the most famous probably being A Matter of Life and Death and Beetlejuice.
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and the ancient chinese afterlife - even it's entire catherd of gods is known as the celestial bureaucracy
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Samuel Clemens posted:It's an effective concept because it immediately grounds the seemingly outlandish in a relatable setting and allows for plenty of easy jokes through contrasting the fantastical elements with the mundanity of professional work. maybe it's just me but i find the portrayal of the mind as a mini-bureaucracy to be incredibly alienating
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Looper posted:maybe it's just me but i find the portrayal of the mind as a mini-bureaucracy to be incredibly alienating Instead of brain pulleys and gears you have discrete offices.
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Robindaybird posted:and the ancient chinese afterlife - even it's entire catherd of gods is known as the celestial bureaucracy Most people have seen a depiction of this afterlife because it's what Dragonball goes off of.
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mycot posted:Most people have seen a depiction of this afterlife because it's what Dragonball goes off of. I recall Yu Yu Hakusho doing the same.
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doomrider7 posted:I recall Yu Yu Hakusho doing the same. Yeah, it's quite common in anime and chinese productions.
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Dragon ball has the best hell because it's a nice place with friendly and muscular demons where bad souls go to get purified so they can reincarnate into better people Instead of the whole lovely eternal fire and brimstone thing
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So Love, Death & Robots showed up on Netflix. Its a animated anthology show developed by Tim Miller (Deadpool and Blur Studios) and David Fincher (you should already know). I'm a handful of episodes in and I'm really enjoying it to be honest. Its a little overly edgy at times with f-bombs here and there or stuff like a Dracula monster getting specifically shot in the dick. It is also very NSFW with lots of animated nudity. So many dicks. That said, the animation is varied and really well done at times with lots of styles from hand-drawn to total CGI. The anthology style of story telling is great for short stories they are trying to tell. Some work better than others so far but its at least interesting and experimental even if some are just a bit too shock-schlock. So far I'd recommend the episode "Suits" which has a bunch of farmers in mech suits fighting off some kind of inter-dimensional zergling attack. The art style really reminds me of Blizzard's attempts at motion comics in World of Warcraft but with a bigger budget. I really enjoyed the cartoony style here. "Three Robots" is a lot of fun with some robots exploring a post-apocalyptic city as tourists. "Sucker of Souls" has some nice art, the dracula dick shooting, and I do love Fred Tatasciore's gruff mercenary voice. "Shape-Shifters" has that weird, overly realistic CGI thing going on but if the idea of werewolves fighting for the marines in Afganistan against Taliban werewolves gets your inner 12 year old going, its neat. Skip "The Witness" as its porn masquerading as a chase sequence with a twist ending. Is anyone else enjoying the series so far?
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Calaveron posted:Dragon ball has the best hell because it's a nice place with friendly and muscular demons where bad souls go to get purified so they can reincarnate into better people Dragon Ball afterlife is a lot like prison, you go there, get super buff, and sometimes let out early for good behaviour. They do basically the equivalent of fire and brimstone for the real jerks, though.
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HFIL is one of the rare cases where the localization vastly improved over the original.
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They actually bring up HFIL in one episode of the Super dub. (a very silly episode everyone should watch, Vegeta gets bizarrely meta)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:They actually bring up HFIL in one episode of the Super dub. (a very silly episode everyone should watch, Vegeta gets bizarrely meta) What episode is that?
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ThermoPhysical posted:What episode is that? Episode 69, of course. Really.
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I can't stop listening to the Spiderverse soundtrack. Absolute jams from start to finish. It beats the hell out of the Black Panther soundtrack by only having full songs that at least fit the vibe if not outright reflect the content of the movie. I hope this new era of movies getting paired with kickass mixtapes continues.
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Moon Atari posted:I can't stop listening to the Spiderverse soundtrack. Absolute jams from start to finish. It beats the hell out of the Black Panther soundtrack by only having full songs that at least fit the vibe if not outright reflect the content of the movie. I hope this new era of movies getting paired with kickass mixtapes continues. it's the loving sickest soundtrack, loving drat.
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I personally liked the Black Panther soundtrack more than Spider-Verse's, but Spider-Verse's is very good too. Elevate is so goddamn hype. Conversely, despite being a pretty big fan of Ludwig's, and the fact that his Black Panther score won an Oscar, Spider-Verse's score is much better. I've listened to it at least twenty times.
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