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Shaocaholica posted:So what you're saying is that its not impossible for Tom Cruise and Ving Rhames to walk into the facility wearing overalls and hack the poo poo out of that dam before it explodes. Physical infiltration of important facilities isn't some movie grade fantasy, it's a real world concern.
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Look like you're supposed to be there, and you'll be amazed at how easily you can get into places you shouldn't without anyone batting an eye.
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ltugo posted:Ving Rhames was in the truck. It was Tom and Jean Reno who hacked the CIA. Exhaust from the truck started the brushfire
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*Mission Impossible music plays* *Tom Cruise casually walks into an unlocked side door* *Walks past six people and goes into the head engineer’s cubicle and turns over the keyboard revealing a post-it note with “password = Password123” written on it. *Places a finger to ear* “I’m in...”
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Mar 15, 2019 20:43
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Yeah that's basically how it would happen irl  I do this stuff for a living specifically for critical infrastructure
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Mar 15, 2019 21:04
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Actual leaked CIA examples of electrical grid sabotage is pretty clear that low-tech stuff like throwing chains on power lines is a better route. More reliable, cheaper, and hard for anyone to prove until ten years later when some whistle-blower dumps a bunch of documents. Not that "defense" and "intelligence" orgs aren't suckers for aesthetics who will pour fifty million dollars into hi-tech boondoggles because they like the sound of it, or set up pointlessly byzantine schemes because they all think they're Otto van Suntzu-Machiavelli come again.
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Mar 15, 2019 21:14
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What other world leaders are calling out the NZ attacks explicitly like this? https://twitter.com/maduro_en/statu...ingawful.com%2F
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Mar 15, 2019 21:33
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Noted tankie outlet https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/...ingawful.com%2F
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brugroffil posted:What other world leaders are calling out the NZ attacks explicitly like this? That really means a lot coming from such a moral man like maduro.
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brugroffil posted:Noted tankie outlet]
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patonthebach posted:That really means a lot coming from such a moral man like maduro. Yeah shows you how low the bar is, and how seemingly everyone else isn't clearing it?? Anyway https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/...ingawful.com%2F
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Mar 15, 2019 21:50
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Oh my God this guy makes Tom Clancy look like Homer. Read the synopsis of his book on Amazon. I'd link it if I wasn't phone posting. It's fuckin gold.
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Please stop making me parse Johnson's hosed up dishonest tweets. I think this is the third or fourth time. He's selectively quoting the Military Times, which is itself selectively quoting Fulton Armstrong, who starts by saying that the US is trying to get the military to overthrow Maduro, and that the quoted action is a farfetched idea that someone like Bolton might propose. I can't get full context for the Armstrong quotes because the MT doesn't contextualize the quotes in full. But I don't have to to be able to tell that Johnson is full of poo poo.
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brugroffil posted:What other world leaders are calling out the NZ attacks explicitly like this? https://twitter.com/MaithripalaS/status/1106636025151934464 https://twitter.com/theresa_may/status/1106593184396787712 i assume you mean specifically him using the words "white supremacy" also i was ready to lol at Modi not responding but he did send a boilerplate condolence, he just didn't post it on Twitter, The Platform Of Choice For World Leaders quote:BEIJING, March 15 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping sent a message of condolence to New Zealand Governor-General Patsy Reddy on Friday over the deadly shooting incidents earlier Friday in New Zealand's Christchurch City. tbf, if I had to guess Maduro's response, it'd look something like it did
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GreyjoyBastard posted:https://twitter.com/MaithripalaS/status/1106636025151934464 Yeah, straight condemnation of right wing white terrorism without both sides/"we condemn all bad things" Both of the ones you posted fall short of that easy standard
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brugroffil posted:Yeah shows you how low the bar is, and how seemingly everyone else isn't clearing it?? It's amazing how we keep saying the quiet part loud, this may be the dumbest coup in the modern age
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brugroffil posted:Yeah, straight condemnation of right wing white terrorism without both sides/"we condemn all bad things" sirisena's one is particularly (darkly) funny because he is probably in the process of selling his soul (back) to Former President Mahinda Rajapaksa, who is a very interesting former overlord but his relevance to this exact moment in this exact topic is that he's currently allied with the very, very worst sri lankan buddhist-supremacist shitbags
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sexpig by night posted:It's amazing how we keep saying the quiet part loud, this may be the dumbest coup in the modern age say that poo poo as loud as possible is a core part of the Trump administration Venezuela strategy. The point is to tell everyone inside Venezuela, especially the military, that if they move against Maduro the US will have their back. Anyone who kills Maduro is going to instantly have recognition, sanctions relief, credit released etc. They don't care if you hear what they're saying as well because you hardly matter.
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sexpig by night posted:It's amazing how we keep saying the quiet part loud, this may be the dumbest coup in the modern age That dude writes airport fiction. He isn't the Supreme Allied Coup Commander.
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Mar 16, 2019 08:05
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Wow it's amazing how two lovely posters getting hosed up makes this thread have about 10x less posts an hour.  https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article227844739.html Looks like Cuba's about to be thrown under the bus by the US, and, entertainingly, possibly Venezuela as well. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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AGGGGH BEES posted:Wow it's amazing how two lovely posters getting hosed up makes this thread have about 10x less posts an hour. Wow, apparently PDVSA has been buying the oil to ship to Cuba from Rostneft and selling it at a loss since at least 2017.
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MullardEL34 posted:Wow, apparently PDVSA has been buying the oil to ship to Cuba from Rostneft and selling it at a loss since at least 2017. Where does your assertion that they’re “selling at a loss” come from? The article says the pdsva has been buying oil, but it doesn’t put a sticker price on the medical services Cuba is providing. On a side note, I guess it shouldn’t be surprising that thread regulars are cheering guaido attempting to cut medical services to his country for petty reasons in the middle of an already present medical services shortage in said country
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AGGGGH BEES posted:Wow it's amazing how two lovely posters getting hosed up makes this thread have about 10x less posts an hour. I'm thinking many of the anti-lovely dictator posters are sick of arguing with those with obvious brainworms. There is only so many times you can dunk on the same inaccurate propaganda points. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Condiv posted:Where does your assertion that they’re “selling at a loss” come from? The article says the pdsva has been buying oil, but it doesn’t put a sticker price on the medical services Cuba is providing. It says right in the article that they are buying the oil from Rostneft at a price above the subsidized rate at which they then turn around and resell it to Cuba.
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MullardEL34 posted:It says right in the article that they are buying the oil from Rostneft at a price above the subsidized rate at which they then turn around and resell it to Cuba. quote:PDVSA bought the crude for up to $12 per barrel more than it priced the same oil when it shipped to Cuba, according to prices on internal documents reviewed by Reuters. But Cuba may never pay cash for the cargoes because Venezuela has long accepted goods and services from Cuba in return for oil under a pact signed in 2000 by late presidents Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. So yeah, your assertion does not hold up to scrutiny
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I was trying to look up the value of the exchange between both countries and there's frustratingly little info. The most recent source on the wikipage on Cuban-Venezuelan relations is like 2005. Everyone seems to agree that Cuba is taking the lions share of the value, but nobody can really say how much Venezuela gets out of the relationship. Current estimates are there are about 15,000 Cubans working in Venezuela as part of their trade arrangement. I also found this quote in a NYtimes article, which i thought was lol: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/world/americas/venezuela-cuba-oil.html quote:During the Venezuelan economic crisis of the past several years, however, crude exports to Cuba have dropped as Venezuelan oil production has collapsed. In 2017, the financial health of Venezuela’s state-run oil company, Pdvsa, had declined so much that Cuba took the company’s 49 percent share in a Cuban refinery as payment for outstanding debts. Cuba repossessing Venezuelan assets for failure to pay debts. Still trying to wrap my mind around that.
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The Cuban government may be quite bad on a number of different levels, but I still believe they honestly think they have the people's best interests at heart and try to act in accordance with that, even if we recognize they've hosed up a lot. Also they aren't quite as staggeringly loving incompetent as Maduro.
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PT6A posted:The Cuban government may be quite bad on a number of different levels, but I still believe they honestly think they have the people's best interests at heart and try to act in accordance with that, even if we recognize they've hosed up a lot. Also they aren't quite as staggeringly loving incompetent as Maduro. I’m not a fan of the Cuban government, but even I have to admit that they’re wildly more competent than The PSUV.
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MullardEL34 posted:I’m not a fan of the Cuban government, but even I have to admit that they’re wildly more competent than The PSUV. It should be emphasized that this is an incredibly low bar to pass.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/for-economy-czar-of-crisis-hit-venezuela-inflation-does-not-exist-idUSKBN0UL27820160107 The most amazing sign of incompetence was in 2016 when maduro appointed as minister of the economy a guy who argued that inflation due to printing money doesn't exist. quote:“Inflation does not exist in real life,” he wrote in a 2015 pamphlet called “22 Keys to Understanding the Economic War.” “When a person goes to a shop and finds that prices have gone up, they are not in the presence of ‘inflation.’”
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Venezuela doesn’t have an inflation problem because inflation doesn’t exist. I’d like to visit the alternate universe where Maduro and Trump are buddies.
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Pharohman777 posted:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/for-economy-czar-of-crisis-hit-venezuela-inflation-does-not-exist-idUSKBN0UL27820160107 It a real ham fisted and dumb way of approaching the concept of real versus nominal values I think.its theoretically possible to print a lot of money and not raise inflation,if you're the US circa 1942.what the hell is a economy czar and why is he a sociology major?
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:It a real ham fisted and dumb way of approaching the concept of real versus nominal values I think.its theoretically possible to print a lot of money and not raise inflation,if you're the US circa 1942.what the hell is a economy czar and why is he a sociology major? a "czar" is a generic press term for a high ranking official (almost always executive) with a specialized policy area responsibility. The term is especially popular for weird, but prominent, appointees that have access to the president, and for foreign executive appointees whose formal titles aren't very revealing (so for instance the Chinese Vice Primer Liu He is called the economy czar, because Chinese leadership titles are inconsistent and opaque and he's swapped them dozens of times-but the dude's functionally the guy who has had Pooh Bear's ear on domestic and international trade for years). Salas seems to have rotated into and out of VP positions a couple times; his degree was in "sociology of development", which is...sort of qualifying? But it's clear from propaganda interviews and publications that he's selected for being able to state the party line. edit: ugh, read a venezuelanalysis interview and I can feel the brainworms.
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How is the electrical situation today?
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Venezuela has become a front page oddity multiple times this week on Reddit, showcasing bizarre imagery of collapse. Videos of groceries stocked almost entirely with ketchup bottles as shelf fill, pictures of streets and gutters full of piles of discarded venezuelan money.
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Shaocaholica posted:Venezuela doesn’t have an inflation problem because inflation doesn’t exist. I’d like to visit the alternate universe where Maduro and Trump are buddies. If everything is price controlled then it's true that inflation doesn't exist. But then you run into the problem of consumer goods not existing.
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Three bits of Venezuelan news today: 1. Looks like Maduro is reorganizing his government? Cryptic tweet from the "Vice President" https://twitter.com/DrodriguezVen/status/1107367094470041600 2. Iff any of you doubted how despicable this piece of garbage Maduro is, this very detailed and well-sourced story from the NYT today is sickening poo poo: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/world/americas/venezuela-cuban-doctors.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimesworld quote:Yansnier Arias knew it was wrong. It violated the Constitution, not to mention the oath he took as a doctor in Cuba. 3. Finally, Abrams is meeting with the Deputy FM of Russia this week. Further evidence that Russian support for the despot may be starting to crack.
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I'm not gonna dispute that that story is horrible and a sign of the incredible corruption of Maduro et al, but its....kind of awkward to use that piece of news against him when his opposition would make that sort of denial of healthcare routine. e: like, one of the first substantive policies that Guaido has made was to attempt to cut off any medical aid being received from cuba.
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