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QuarkJets posted:People who pick warrior in a game with wizards are already boring so making the warrior choice also boring is just playing to your audience Unless it’s Dark Souls in which case the reverse it true.
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QuarkJets posted:People who pick warrior in a game with wizards are already boring so making the warrior choice also boring is just playing to your audience When I was a kid I that warriors where the most boring thing on earth, who wouldn't want to be the wizard? Now that I'm older and have played fifty thousand hours of various gaming, wizards are still cool, but I'm attracted to warriors as a quick litmus test to see if this new game has any worth at all. My view is that the basic 'man hit things with stick' gameplay loop needs to be a good, interesting system that's fun, before you go covering up all its flaws with bizarre gimmicks like summoner classes etc. My best example of a game failing this was Diablo3, about a year ago (so very very post-launch, post-fixes). I played the demo and never has a demo anti-sell a game to me so hard. I played the Barbarian up the demo end of killing Leoric, and I was bored to tears the entire time. Didn't even use a healing potion until Leoric, despite playing recklessly. So yea, it's not that warriors suck, its just that some games suck and the warriors bring it out the worst.
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Mar 17, 2019 00:05
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I couldn't give a gently caress about modern online FPS games. I have never found one which beats Day of Defeat.
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Mar 17, 2019 00:08
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Why not just be a battlemage
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Mar 17, 2019 00:14
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signalnoise posted:Why not just be a battlemage Battle mages suck at both roles. Necromancer for life.
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Mar 17, 2019 00:23
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Hitting things with zweihanders while clad in heavy armor is cool as gently caress. Why would I want to be some loving bearded weirdo virgin who stands at the other end of the battlefield farting fire at people? I want to cleave people with metal
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Mar 17, 2019 00:27
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc
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Mar 17, 2019 00:29
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I don't know if this is unpopular at all but an hour into Nioh and it loving rules, nobody told me it was Team Ninja!!! Souls-style world and gameplay with Team ninja combat, oh man
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Mar 17, 2019 00:31
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Foul Ole Ron posted:I couldn't give a gently caress about modern online FPS games. Amen
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Mar 17, 2019 00:41
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I picked a wizard in DAO and still found it boring
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Mar 17, 2019 00:55
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Doesn't help that D&D has had warriors be useless and boring while wizards break the game for so long that the fanbase threw a screaming whining fit when they gave the warriors fun things to do and changed it all back for the latest version so warriors are useless again. Dark Souls really bucked the trend on that.
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Mar 17, 2019 02:23
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Foul Ole Ron posted:I couldn't give a gently caress about modern online FPS games. Insurgency: sandstorm sort of comes from DoD pedigree, might like that one?
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Mar 17, 2019 02:27
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Flannelette posted:Insurgency: sandstorm sort of comes from DoD pedigree, might like that one? The Original DoD was an awesome game, don't think anything be the same.
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Mar 17, 2019 02:41
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Dragon age 1 was mechanically fun imo but Holy gently caress the darkspawn were such a lazy enemy and "actually all this magic is bad and wizards can't be trusted" is a lazy as gently caress conflict generator and there are so many god drat bad narrative and storytelling choices
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Mar 17, 2019 02:43
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basic hitler posted:Dragon age 1 was mechanically fun imo but Holy gently caress the darkspawn were such a lazy enemy and "actually all this magic is bad and wizards can't be trusted" is a lazy as gently caress conflict generator and there are so many god drat bad narrative and storytelling choices The whole thing does strike me as a bad rip on Warhammer. Though apparently the dwarves are basically full on Dwarf Fortress.
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Mar 17, 2019 02:45
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Doesn't help that D&D has had warriors be useless and boring while wizards break the game for so long that the fanbase threw a screaming whining fit when they gave the warriors fun things to do and changed it all back for the latest version so warriors are useless again. Divinity does a good job of making all classes interesting by basically giving even warriors enough abilities that they feel more like casters than traditional stick-swinging bores.
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Mar 17, 2019 02:49
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Or you can just play Dragon's Dogma again where every class has fun things they can do to help.
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Mar 17, 2019 02:54
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Flannelette posted:Or you can just play Dragon's Dogma again where every class has fun things they can do to help. Or a good video game.
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Mar 17, 2019 03:16
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Dragon's Dogma had all the makings of a perfect game but playing it makes you feel like they threw away that chance just because they could. It would've been so easy to make it more tolerable.
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Mar 17, 2019 03:37
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Graphics have always been, and always will be, more important than gameplay.
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Mar 17, 2019 04:46
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Yeah but not for the sake of being on the cutting edge. Having a design for your game that ages well graphically is super important though
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Mar 17, 2019 04:48
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DebonaireD posted:Graphics have always been, and always will be, more important than gameplay. Kenshi is one of the funnest games I have played in the last few years and it somehow looks even worse than the original Neverwinter Nights.
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Mar 17, 2019 04:54
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tolkeinesque race tropes in my fantasy game why i never
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Mar 17, 2019 06:44
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Vakal posted:Kenshi is one of the funnest games I have played in the last few years and it somehow looks even worse than the original Neverwinter Nights.  OK you've got my attention. Though this looks an awful lot like Beyond Thunderdome Meets Mount & Blade: The Jankiest poo poo You'll Never Stop Playing
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Mar 17, 2019 11:07
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QuarkJets posted:People who pick warrior in a game with wizards are already boring so making the warrior choice also boring is just playing to your audience Wizards are cool and good but it's also very fun to smash enemies' faces in with cool axes, swords, etc and maybe swing your party's wizard around like a fireball casting weapon.
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Mar 17, 2019 13:52
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Wizards are just archers with longer attack animations
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Mar 17, 2019 14:18
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Wizards are cool and good but it's also very fun to smash enemies' faces in with cool axes, swords, etc and maybe swing your party's wizard around like a fireball casting weapon.
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Mar 17, 2019 14:27
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2house2fly posted:It's been a while since I played last(early in a new playthru right now) but I think this is literally an option in Dragon's Dogma Everything is an option in Dragon's Dogma.
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Mar 17, 2019 14:41
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Everything is an option in Dragon's Dogma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2afH5wYR4BY
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Mar 17, 2019 15:52
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internet celebrity posted:Wizards are just archers with longer attack animations Pfft, wizards can cast anywhere and blow up houses. An archer's greatest enemy is a thick plank between him and his target.
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Mar 17, 2019 15:58
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DebonaireD posted:Graphics have always been, and always will be, more important than gameplay. I was about to say something but then I noticed this thread is about videogames not computer games in general.
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Mar 17, 2019 15:58
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Twelve Batmans posted:Pfft, wizards can cast anywhere and blow up houses. An archer's greatest enemy is a thick plank between him and his target. I've seen enough video game archers with trick shot, multi-shot, and "I fire one arrow straight up and a whole shower of them bombards a circular area" abilities to know this isn't true!!!!
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Mar 17, 2019 17:02
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Private Cumshoe posted:Open world games are garbage, all of them, bonus points if even more time is wasted in the game in menus ("crafting" lol) than it is exploring a big boring area that looks kind of pretty I guess with some dumb quest on the other side of the map. that game was a revolution and every worthwhile game since then has been a revolution that's how you make it in the biz
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Mar 19, 2019 04:42
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Chomp8645 posted:I've seen enough video game archers with trick shot, multi-shot, and "I fire one arrow straight up and a whole shower of them bombards a circular area" abilities to know this isn't true!!!! Man, I miss City of Heroes.
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Mar 19, 2019 04:49
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Just kitting out that trick arrow powerset without any archery stuff. Oh this bow? I just shoot nets and magnets at people.
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Mar 19, 2019 09:39
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inkajoo posted:that game was a revolution and every worthwhile game since then has been a revolution yes worthwhile games are revolutions whatever that means, OoT had some real crap level design and other bizarre design decisions nonetheless also I didn't really think Ken was half Japanese that was just a failed Elliot Rodger joke
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Mar 19, 2019 09:43
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Turok Evolution strikes me as having all the ingredients of what woulda been a great shlocky game but it just all didn't work together. I mean, you play as a Native American warrior fighting dinosaurs, what more fitting enemy can there be than a cowboy riding a T-Rex? Actually there's a couple FPSes that have a mystical native american protagonist for no particular reason that don't really suffer for it.
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Mar 19, 2019 13:12
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The first couple of missions of Wolfenstein: The old blood are awful.
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Mar 19, 2019 13:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Man, I miss City of Heroes. City of heroes/villains was an amazingly good waste of time. Too bad it didn't really make it to the top. The one game that I wish was more popular would be Emperor: Battle for Dune
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I can barely tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps. But when I do, 60 looks worse.
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