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Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.
On top of everything else I think the vast majority of single player games are played as the Allies, so all the discussion of the scripts I could find were about the difficulty of keeping Japan competitive into 1943/44/45. This is also why there's so many Ironman scenarios that try to make it so that Japan can keep moving things around after you sink three convoys of unescorted cargo ships moving to their scripted target.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The real mod that people should be making is converting Japan to receive men, vehicles, ships, and planes on a strict "on-delivery" schedule, similar to what the Allies get, so that there's a "no production needed" option available for players.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






I'm out raiding, and I take a torpedo hit and lose a destroyer.



The northern raiding force is more successful.



More Bettys go down, at least they see a ship this time.






More rations arrive at Ndeni! They are of course more Kiwis.
Poor bloody Kiwis.






I have no idea what the AI has against New Zealand, but they do love to send their troops in piecemeal.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
How does a PT boat take 27 shell hits

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Saint Celestine posted:

How does a PT boat take 27 shell hits

The game counts machine gun fire as shells

Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.
Yeah at extreme close range, mostly at night ala Savo Island, ships will spray each other down with every gun they have including AA

benzine
Oct 21, 2010
PT boats doing their job.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

14 March 1945

Two German torpedo boats, T-3 and T-5, run over a Soviet submarine-laid minefield in the Gulf of Danzig.

terrenblade
Oct 29, 2012

sullat posted:

Making a wargame AI is easy, making a wargame AI that doesn't end up trying to seize control of the nation's nuclear arsenal so it can win the game permanently is hard.

How do you get it to stop asking to play chess all the time?

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

The real mod that people should be making is converting Japan to receive men, vehicles, ships, and planes on a strict "on-delivery" schedule, similar to what the Allies get, so that there's a "no production needed" option available for players.

If squadrons or LCUs appear as reinforcements they will pull planes and devices from the pools and cost industry, and ships will be "built" and cost shipyard points and industry.

There's a way to do it though, every squadron, ship and LCU must exist at game start, squadrons and LCUs must be embarked on TFs and then the TFs can appear in Tokyo on a specified date ("delay" in the editor).
That works and avoids the industry system.
I've only tested it for ships and squadrons though, but it ought to work for LCUs as well. So such a mod must also supply Japan with new merchant shipping at least equal to the load cost of the other reinforcements.

Of maybe you can load an arbitrary amount on a TF through the editor. Hm.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The night raid hits more planes on the runway.






Another plane lost on the ground.



Their not screwing around today!



This seems to be a new, and effective strategy! Good for them!



It is costing me a lot of planes though!



A hell of a lot of planes – these planes have been bombing Rangoon none-stop for the last year, and its frightening when they switch target.



The Airfield is ruined in one day.



The flack gunners hit something at least.






My god that was scary – this shows what the AI could be doing to me if it was competent every day.



The remaining planes here are damaged, and will not be escaping.

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.
Ow. You think that's the AI actually being competent, noticing the invasion force and trying to knock out your nearby airbases before the main force arrives?

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
It's like it hit a reset button for its target selection algorithm and realised there were much better targets out there.

On the subject of wargame AI - features and AI are always at war with each other. It'd be much easier to make an AI that can play a simplified game, with much fewer features than this one has - no tracking of every single pilot, ship, squad, seperate "preparation" tickers for every invasion force - but we probably wouldn't bother watching it without the ridiculous attention to detail we have in this game.

I would definitely say that this game could lose some of the crazier details in service of better AI and be a better game for it.

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

Serpentis posted:

Ow. You think that's the AI actually being competent, noticing the invasion force and trying to knock out your nearby airbases before the main force arrives?

They finally let Curtis LeMay transfer in theater.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Volmarias posted:

I've just reached this post today, it took me more than a few months but I've only got a few thousand posts to go. Here's hoping I reach the end before GH finishes!

And I'm finally caught up to the very end. No more reading weeks at a time, I have to wait and see what actually happens now.

It would be nice if Grey were to try to steamroll PNG instead of India. It would give Rabaul some breathing room and let him start raiding Australia.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Pershing posted:

They finally let Curtis LeMay transfer in theater.
Rabaul gonna get Fat Man dropped on it.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

CannonFodder posted:

Rabaul gonna get Fat Man dropped on it.

Maybe on the Allied ships in its harbor

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

overmind2000 posted:

Maybe on the Allied ships in its harbor
If the Superforts can get the runway out of action then yeah, Grey is hosed.

Is there any way for Japan to set up nighttime CAP or at least have the AA guns keep overnight watch to send flak their way, or are they flying too high for flak?

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






My planes are trying to sleep you bullies!



Here at least I can still get planes in the air.



We drive off their bombers.






We put enough holes in them they don't fly bombers in Burma today – then again, after yesterday, they don't need to!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Oh god, here they come again!



Yeah, that runway ain't going to buff out....



There are not that many planes left to hit.



A reminder I'm not showing you all the waves.






Deploy the wall of death.






Their planes break through the CAP again.






Least I killed enough to make back the losses at Magwe.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Seems like you desperately need some night fighters at your frontline bases.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

17 March 1945

Minesweeper HMCS Guysborough sinks to a homing torpedo from U-878 in the Bay of Biscay.

18 March 1945

Japanese fast transport T-18 goes missing off Mutsurejima, Kyushu, probably to a mine strike.

Two German torpedo boats, TA-29 and TA-24 (ex-Italian Eridano and Arturo respectively), are ambushed and sunk by radar-vectored RN destroyers Lookout and Meteor north of Corsica. A third ship, TA-32 (ex-Yugoslav Premuda), narrowly escaped. This was the last destroyer engagement in the European theater.

Magni
Apr 29, 2009
RIP IJN Fubuki, the world's first modern (by WW2 standards) destroyer.

two_step
Sep 2, 2011

The Sandman posted:

Seems like you desperately need some night fighters at your frontline bases.

Didn't he also build like a thousand of some obscure night fighter?

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009

OpenlyEvilJello posted:

Minesweeper HMCS Guysborough sinks to a homing torpedo from U-878 in the Bay of Biscay.

Where are U-boats even based at this point? They can't have that many supplies remaining in France.

Looking it up, U-878 is sunk less than 4 weeks later.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Decoy Badger posted:

Where are U-boats even based at this point? They can't have that many supplies remaining in France.

Looking it up, U-878 is sunk less than 4 weeks later.

Bases in Germany proper and Norway. It was more dangerous due to the longer transit time and chokepoints, but it's not like the U-boat offensive started with the capture of France, after all.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Here they come again.



More Kiwi's, with some air support.



My fighters do a great job!






Magwe continues to be levelled.






Another Kiwi base force – how many of those things do they have.



Oh hey, we've not seen the Cabot in a while.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






We lose more planes in a failed strike.



Then another wave in the afternoon.



As far as I can tell, they are after a couple of destroyers.






Here they come again.



There can't be many more planes left there.



Again, every plane that normally hits Rabaul hits the airbase here.






I make some of my losses back at Gaum.






More heavy losses for my planes.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

19 March 1945

Suma, a Japanese gunboat captured from the British, strikes an air-laid mine on the Yangtze.

20 March 1945

Sloop HMS Lapwing breaks in half after being struck amidships by a homing torpedo from U-968 in the Kola Inlet.

US airpower knocks out another quintet of German minesweepers at Kiel: M-15, M-16, and M-522 sunk; M-18 and M-19 damaged beyond repair.

FrangibleCover
Jan 23, 2018

Nothing going on in my quiet corner of the Pacific.

This is the life. I'm just lying here in my hammock in Townsville, sipping a G&T.
Can't you put the strike aircraft at Rabaul on a shorter strike range or something so that they don't keep sprinting into buzzsaws? You're bleeding airframes like mad from Rabaul because they're trying to play in the Allied back yard.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Here are the normal suicide raids.






I still have a few planes here it seems.



They will have wiped them out in a few days.






I'll be glad when Magwe is bombed clean.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

21 March 1945

At Venice, American airpower sinks the German torpedo boat TA-29 (ex-Italian Alabarda). The German pre-dreadnought Schleswig-Holstein, which had fired the opening shots in the invasion of Poland and been resting in shallow water off Gdynia since being bombed in late 1944, is properly wrecked by scuttling charges.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

I’ve read a paper a couple of months ago that the very first “shot” was Luftwaffe bombing the poo poo out of some village. Guess they simply itched for some Guernica style fun.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Boy did the Axis love bombing cities and strafing civilians so much.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

ChaseSP posted:

Boy did the Axis love bombing cities and strafing civilians so much.

WWII major powers who did not love bombing cities and strafing civilians:


uh


hmm

Nationalist China maybe just because the ROC had a poo poo airforce

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

France?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

He said major powers.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

I'm not aware of any particular incidents involving the Soviet Air Forces, though that would be more down to doctrinal issues that had them committed to support for ground forces than any real aversion or whatever. Strategic bombing just wasn't something they did (or had the airframes for), which was generally where the vast majority of civilian casualties would have come from.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Lord Koth posted:

I'm not aware of any particular incidents involving the Soviet Air Forces, though that would be more down to doctrinal issues that had them committed to support for ground forces than any real aversion or whatever. Strategic bombing just wasn't something they did (or had the airframes for), which was generally where the vast majority of civilian casualties would have come from.

Long range aviation regiments bombed German civilian targets by night throughout the war. It wasn’t a big volume compared to the western allies, but they still regularly put bombers over German and occupied cities.

But they also used a lot of tacair in various urban battles, especially königsberg and Berlin, and that was pretty bad for local civilians.

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The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
On the other hand, if any nation still in the war had the right to not give a crispy poo poo about bombing enemy civilians it was the Soviets.

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