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Boris Galerkin posted:I just started season 1. Is there anything universally terrible that I should skip? hahahahaha wow. Uh.... OK... uhm... you know what? No, no there isn't. I mean, yes, there is definitely terrible stuff in there that you should skip, but by and large, it's little bits of terrible strewn about in the first season or so, and it's a lot of work to skip those terrible parts without missing the good stuff. The show takes a bit of time finding its footing, trying to find the sweet spot between police procedural set in Gotham City and Bat(man)poo poo crazy comic book TV series. But, once it settles into its Bat(man)poo poo crazy comic book police procedural groove, things really start getting good. Also, you don't want to skip the terrible stuff because if you do, you'll miss out on understanding how they polished up many of the early turds that they farted out while trying to be too serious. And, some of the terrible stuff is just so terrible that you have to see it. To wit: keep an eye out for a character called Fish... well, in general, I suppose, as she sure is something awful alright, but in particular, watch for her to suddenly throw everybody out of her fancy club. It's an over-the-top line delivery that comes out of nowhere and even makes one of the extras giggle. There's a gif of it somewhere, I'm sure.
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Problem with Gotham is it's a roller-coaster. The universally terrible parts don't stop after Season 1 ends, they even crop up in late Season 4, so there's really no escape. Of course there's still really fantastic moments, but that lingering awfulness persists throughout the show and is never quite scrubbed away for good.
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A couple characters are crap but there's really nothing to skip without missing something good. Overall fun as hell show.
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Boris Galerkin posted:I just started season 1. Is there anything universally terrible that I should skip? Season 1.
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What’s the deal with Barbara because what the Christ. Her character just completely changed after one episode. This is the same Barbara from the movies aka gordon’s wife right?
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Boris Galerkin posted:What’s the deal with Barbara because what the Christ. Her character just completely changed after one episode. You’re in for quite a ride.
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qirex posted:You’re in for quite a ride. She just did the serial killer thing and threatened to murder people over the phone so yeah, this is quite a ride. But still, is this the same Barbara that Gordon calls his wife in the Batman movies because this makes no sense. How does a straight-shooter like him find it ok to marry a murdering psychopath? Or is this just 'artistic freedom' and I'm thinking too much?
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Mar 17, 2019 10:55
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Boris Galerkin posted:But still, is this the same Barbara that Gordon calls his wife in the Batman movies because this makes no sense. Do yourself a huge favour and stop trying to map Gotham onto any existing Batman canon right now. You’ll just give yourself an aneurism.
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Gotham is Batman:Remix and it's great
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Phylodox posted:Do yourself a huge favour and stop trying to map Gotham onto any existing Batman canon right now. You’ll just give yourself an aneurism. Yeah, this, pretty much. Sage advice. But don't worry too much, because if you do get an aneurysm, the Asian FBI profiler/resident psychiatrist from Law & Order: SVU can fix you up in a jiffy. And you'll have plot-convenient superpowers.
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Mar 17, 2019 16:05
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tarlibone posted:But don't worry too much, because if you do get an aneurysm,
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Boris Galerkin posted:She just did the serial killer thing and threatened to murder people over the phone so yeah, this is quite a ride. The show has nothing to do with the continuity of the movies, cartoons, tv shows, comics, etc. It's it own thing.
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Boris Galerkin posted:She just did the serial killer thing and threatened to murder people over the phone so yeah, this is quite a ride. The first season has a lot of course correction where they try stuff and eventually go in different directions. Montoya and Allen just kind of unceremoniously disappear and they bring in Harvey Dent but never really come up with anything to do with him.
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muscles like this! posted:and they bring in Harvey Dent but never really come up with anything to do with him.
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He guest stars a couple times in s1 then they made him a series regular in s2 but he doesn't really show up at all. I think the last time he appears on the show is the victory party for Galavant.
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You hack people, Mr. Alderson, my sister hacks time, I give people superpowers.
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Phylodox posted:Season 1. Season one is the only universally good Gotham season. Aside from Fish's sections. Everyone in this thread is crazy. Maybe in a good way, but still.
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Mar 18, 2019 03:41
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Fish is great.
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Mar 18, 2019 04:12
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Naw, Fish is a bad writers idea of a strong woman.
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Mar 18, 2019 05:20
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Fish is awful and Jada Pinkett Smith can't act to save her life. If she wasn't Will Smith's wife, she'd never have gotten that role.
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She's an OTT comic book villain. Whether you like that or not is a personal preference, but if you're watching Gotham and don't like OTT I'm not sure what to tell you.
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Fish owns. She set the tone for the what the show became. Her eyeball scene is a show highlight. tarlibone posted:To wit: keep an eye out for a character called Fish... well, in general, I suppose, as she sure is something awful alright, but in particular, watch for her to suddenly throw everybody out of her fancy club. It's an over-the-top line delivery that comes out of nowhere and even makes one of the extras giggle. There's a gif of it somewhere, I'm sure. Also this is wrong. It's not an extra breaking character, it's part of the scene.
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Mar 18, 2019 13:09
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Fish bad so what.
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Mar 18, 2019 18:35
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True, but Fish, in fact, good
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nooneofconsequence posted:Fish bad so what.
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Mar 18, 2019 21:35
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Fish was such a weird choice, spending a whole lot of the first season on someone who wasn't a comic book character.
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Mar 18, 2019 22:04
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Remember the balloon man? Remember that one serious tv reporter seriously talking about people seriously looking up to him as a serious solution to the city's problems?
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Dr Christmas posted:Remember the balloon man? Remember that one serious tv reporter seriously talking about people seriously looking up to him as a serious solution to the city's problems? oh boy, do I! And you don't have to call him "the balloon man." Just Balloon Man is fine.
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Mar 19, 2019 01:13
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Balloon Man had better be the series ending villian.
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tarlibone posted:Balloon Man is fine. https://youtu.be/l7hxAZTTEVw
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Mar 19, 2019 04:13
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Nice.
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Mar 19, 2019 05:18
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I like the penguin. He's pretty cool. Fries should definitely be pronounced like freeze though, if it's suppose to be German.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Fries should definitely be pronounced like freeze though, if it's suppose to be German.
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Mar 19, 2019 14:12
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Bullock being right in the dumbest ways is always a highlight of the show.
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Mar 19, 2019 15:15
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"What's Altruism?!?" Is still hands down the funniest line of the series.
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Burning_Monk posted:"What's Altruism?!?" ... and Jim's expression following that line was equally priceless.
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Dr Christmas posted:Remember the balloon man? Remember that one serious tv reporter seriously talking about people seriously looking up to him as a serious solution to the city's problems? I am one of the few people who like the more serious takes early on in the show but Balloon Man is a national treasure.
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I don't know how people can say that the first season was serious and then also mention Balloon Man. The first season wasn't serious.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I don't know how people can say that the first season was serious and then also mention Balloon Man. Balloon Man was VERY serious. We're all serious about Balloon Man here.
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I know that this is a show about comic book characters and some amount of suspension of disbelief is needed, but come on. This evil genius's plan is to get a child to sign over controlling stakes of a company he can't even legally control because he's, you know, a kid, and somehow the feds apparently don't care about multi-million dollar transactions like this.
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