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strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say

Poil posted:

Only the first couple of them and even then not much. Then it didn't really felt much beyond the physical lips touching. Maybe that was why it all felt so strange. I was surprised by how calm I was throughout the whole afternoon. I like her and I like spending time with her, she's pretty and a great girl. But is this what not feeling/having chemistry is like? :ohdear:

potentially but it seems like you're nervous about it too which is probably making you lose focus on it being a fun thing to do.

though the last girl I kissed had a completely different style to what I like so it wasn't that exciting for me (unlike the partner before her who was the closest to 100% compatible style I've ever had and it was amazing)

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Poil
Mar 17, 2007

strap on revenge posted:

potentially but it seems like you're nervous about it too which is probably making you lose focus on it being a fun thing to do.

though the last girl I kissed had a completely different style to what I like so it wasn't that exciting for me (unlike the partner before her who was the closest to 100% compatible style I've ever had and it was amazing)
Yeah. It's possible I was a lot more nervous than I realized and that part of my brain just sort of shut down. The hugging and holding felt really good. Of course since it was my first kiss(es) me being terribly bad at it could affect my enjoyment a lot. And experiencing what touching another person is actually like and what their skin feels like. Um, she did smell bad from her nose sometimes (if it was the mouth it would have been all the time?) which really hurt my enjoyment. I should probably bring that up in the most delicate and diplomatic way I can think of.

It's also hasn't been a full week yet since I stopped watching porn everyday so it's likely that is causing further head issues.

Thank you everyone for your help. It helps prevent the worries from just bouncing back and forth inside my head making it worse.

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say

Poil posted:

Um, she did smell bad from her nose sometimes (if it was the mouth it would have been all the time?) which really hurt my enjoyment. I should probably bring that up in the most delicate and diplomatic way I can think of.

uh this probably will not go down well however delicately you put it. what kind of smell was it? like the outside of her nose smelled...?

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

strap on revenge posted:

uh this probably will not go down well however delicately you put it. what kind of smell was it? like the outside of her nose smelled...?
More like the inside since it smelled bad when she exhaled near my nose. Kinda like bad breath. So maybe the mouth. I've no idea. Without doing an experiment by smelling her mouth when she breathes out through it and then the nose and comparing it's difficult to tell. But that might be insensitive as hell and very unpleasant for her so even my autistic brain knows it's a bad idea. It didn't change before or after we had eaten and most of the kisses didn't smell so that's why I'm guessing it was her nose. She was sniffling a bit so it could be from a cold or nose infection?

From my perspective if she found my breath bad I wouldn't be upset at her for saying it, upset at myself maybe, but instead be a bit glad she could tell me and would look for ways to improve it. :shrug:

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

101 posted:

Any actual reading recommendations on that subject then?

Girl Sex 101, Come As You Are, FTW vol 1 is amazing if your girlfriend has a penis, I like any book by Velvet Blue, but that's probably just me.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Some people just don't like kissing, but if it gave you pretty much nothing, especially at the start of the relationship or whatever, then that's a pretty good sign you might not be into her all that much.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

thotsky posted:

Some people just don't like kissing, but if it gave you pretty much nothing, especially at the start of the relationship or whatever, then that's a pretty good sign you might not be into her all that much.
Yeah, I'm incredibly worried about it. I've been worried about it since we first met, but I've always worried about that every single time I've had a crush on someone so it's not helpful in the slightest (difference is that this time anything at all happened). I do feel very bad about the whole thing and no matter what happens now I feel like it's going to hurt her a lot and I absolutely hate that. I'm so uncertain and clueless that every single time I get any advice I just think that the last thing I was told is what is accurate.

But I plan to try and talk about it with her in person tomorrow.

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


Poil posted:

Yeah, I'm incredibly worried about it. I've been worried about it since we first met, but I've always worried about that every single time I've had a crush on someone so it's not helpful in the slightest (difference is that this time anything at all happened). I do feel very bad about the whole thing and no matter what happens now I feel like it's going to hurt her a lot and I absolutely hate that. I'm so uncertain and clueless that every single time I get any advice I just think that the last thing I was told is what is accurate.

But I plan to try and talk about it with her in person tomorrow.

It's okay not to know how into someone you are at first, it's okay not to enjoy kissing or to take time to enjoy kissing, it's all okay, dating is about taking time to figure these things out. You don't have to know all the answers immediately, that poo poo is confusing especially the first time you do any of it.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




When I first started kissing, my ex was really fond of forcefully tongue-loving my face and I really didn't enjoy it, genuinely hitting the back of my throat. But I just thought that's how people kiss. I then slowly realised I way prefer kisses that focus on the lips, with gentle tongue stuff every now and then. Focusing on the lips is way more sensual and enjoyable imo

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Kissing is a practiced skill and couples who kiss well a) have been doing it a while (either with each other or with other people) b)probably went through a period of a few days/weeks where they didn’t kiss optimally because they were figuring each other’s likes out and working out the choreography.

Chances are you‘ll feel a lot better about it in short order. Stop overthinking it quite so much.

Quandary
Jan 29, 2008
My first kiss with my girlfriend was absolutely terrible and then we kept practicing and now kissing is great so all I can say is don't stress too much

Quandary fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Mar 17, 2019

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Thank you all so much.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Our kissing game went up a bit after we watched this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vzMuRr1Bvg

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
When I kiss I want you to go at my mouth like it's Hungary. :shrug:

Colonel J
Jan 3, 2008

Beachcomber posted:

Our kissing game went up a bit after we watched this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vzMuRr1Bvg

Tongue scraper, huh? That's new to me. Does it do a better job than using a toothbrush?

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Colonel J posted:

Tongue scraper, huh? That's new to me. Does it do a better job than using a toothbrush?

I've been tongue scraping for the better part of four years. The poo poo that comes off of your tongue (even if you've brushed it before) will make you question why this isn't taught to school children along side brushing and flossing.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Geoj posted:

I've been tongue scraping for the better part of four years. The poo poo that comes off of your tongue (even if you've brushed it before) will make you question why this isn't taught to school children along side brushing and flossing.

Same reason we don’t teach kids proper health or sex Ed. Because we’re thicker than pig poo poo to the point where some of us think it’s a virtue that we are.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Time to get a tongue loosener scraper then.

Kiss update:

So I met with my possibly-gf today and it felt pretty good. An hour before I had to leave home I started getting a bit restless and nervous and left the house ten minutes earlier than I needed. Waiting at the station I had a strange excited and kinda longing feeling in my chest but I tried to relax and embrace that feeling instead of letting it get forced aside which is what usually happens. We had a coffee and a short walk and talked a little about random things. We hugged and it was good and I asked if we could kiss and it felt a lot better than the time the other day. Quite enjoyable actually. :3:
I think it was all caused by my stupid anxiety filled head and issues and things moving too fast, and of course me being bad at kissing (video link was helpful too) and having too high expectations on how amazing it should be. But knowing myself it's not going to take long until I start being uncertain and worried again. :sigh: I really need to get that fixed.

A lot of it is thanks to this thread, so thank you all. Hopefully at some point I'll ask about actual sex related things. :v:

Poil fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Mar 18, 2019

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

So I recently came out as bi and now have a boyfriend for the first time. Our sex is really good, but I have a really hard time getting him to cum. He says he always takes a long time, and while the stamina is welcome, it does make me a little self conscious he often has to finish himself off when I get too tired. Does anyone have tips for giving your man the big-O?

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Put a finger up his butt.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Put some spit/lube on your thumb and directly stroke the tip of his wang in tight circles.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Vibrator

Also, if you’re a penis haver try doing the things that would work for you. Sounds obvious but just in case.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Also, some dudes just take a long time -- if he says this is normal for him, it's almost certainly not you causing the problem.

What are his priorities during sex like? If he's cool with it, it might help to emphasize just having fun/enjoyable sex and try to get away from "oh GOD I have to MAKE HIM COME" as your overwhelming goal.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Electric Bugaloo posted:

Vibrator

Also, if you’re a penis haver try doing the things that would work for you. Sounds obvious but just in case.

I do, but it's a little different since he's cut and I'm not. I will try the vibrator though!

Antivehicular posted:

Also, some dudes just take a long time -- if he says this is normal for him, it's almost certainly not you causing the problem.

What are his priorities during sex like? If he's cool with it, it might help to emphasize just having fun/enjoyable sex and try to get away from "oh GOD I have to MAKE HIM COME" as your overwhelming goal.

I know it's not me, and we both are having good, in-the-moment sex where no one has any goal. I don't have any like "oh GOD I have to MAKE HIM COME" anxiety like you say; ultimately the sex is good and this is a minor problem, but all else being equal it'd be nice to reliably make him cum.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

hoobajoo posted:

I do, but it's a little different since he's cut and I'm not. I will try the vibrator though!

I mean, unless you have phimosis or something that keeps you from directly touching the head it should still be pretty much the same aside from the obvious and maybe some sensitivity differences. Idk, I gotta get back into sexing dudes again.

Bollock Monkey
Jan 21, 2007

The Almighty

Anne Whateley posted:

Scarleteen and Go Ask Alice are amazing resources, and there's a book from each. I haven't read the books but based on the sites I'd still recommend them. Again these are pretty 101-level, they aren't like "how to blow your woman's mind," but you gotta have the basic facts down first

I wish I had these resources when I was younger. I feel very happy for this generation of internet users that such great, accessible resources are around. I think gURL.com was alright from memory but Scarleteen really impresses me.

Colonel J posted:

Tongue scraper, huh? That's new to me. Does it do a better job than using a toothbrush?

I think we could get them to brush their tongues...

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Both of those sites are actually bonkers old by website standards. Go Ask Alice is from 1993-1994, and Scarleteen is from 1998. I was super lucky that I had them as a teen.

Today's teens probably have something younger and hipper, probably but hopefully not just tumblr.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Anne Whateley posted:

Both of those sites are actually bonkers old by website standards. Go Ask Alice is from 1993-1994, and Scarleteen is from 1998. I was super lucky that I had them as a teen.

Today's teens probably have something younger and hipper, probably but hopefully not just tumblr.

It's most likely bad advice they pick up from Reddit as well.

Bollock Monkey
Jan 21, 2007

The Almighty

Anne Whateley posted:

Both of those sites are actually bonkers old by website standards. Go Ask Alice is from 1993-1994, and Scarleteen is from 1998. I was super lucky that I had them as a teen.

Today's teens probably have something younger and hipper, probably but hopefully not just tumblr.

Oh wow, I guess I just never stumbled on them then! I only learned about them within the last... 7 years or so? Good on them.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Hitachi Wand question: worth it to splurge for the cordless model? 1.5x the price has me hesitant..

Fake edit: Basically, do the batteries lose their charge super quick during use, and how durable are the batteries, like 1-2 years, or <1 year, or...?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Johnny Truant posted:

Hitachi Wand question: worth it to splurge for the cordless model? 1.5x the price has me hesitant..

Fake edit: Basically, do the batteries lose their charge super quick during use, and how durable are the batteries, like 1-2 years, or <1 year, or...?

Get the corded first, it’s more convenient and nothing sucks more than jumping into bed and handcuffing your partner before finding out that the vibe is dead.

They’re cheap enough that if you decide later to get the cordless it’s not a crazy outlay.

IMO $180 in hitachi>>>>$400 in fancier vibes

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Johnny Truant posted:

Hitachi Wand question: worth it to splurge for the cordless model? 1.5x the price has me hesitant..

Fake edit: Basically, do the batteries lose their charge super quick during use, and how durable are the batteries, like 1-2 years, or <1 year, or...?

I think it's worth it. Battery is really good, I've never timed it or anything, but we've used it >20 minutes at a time occasionally. Had it a year or so and still going strong.

Lord Zedd-Repulsa
Jul 21, 2007

Devour a good book.


Cordless Hitachi battery lasts two hours plus if someone's having trouble getting off in any reasonable length of time. It'll turn itself off for safety every 30 minutes but comes back on without problem. It can be used while it's charging too if there's ever a time someone forgets to plug it in.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Seconding the plugged version.

Lithium ion and derivatives have only come so far and I refuse to believe the cordless version has the same output as one connected to mains power.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Is there a thread that deals with relationship advice in general, or is this the defacto "sex, love and relationship" thread?

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Qubee posted:

Is there a thread that deals with relationship advice in general, or is this the defacto "sex, love and relationship" thread?

The E/N subforum.

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Thanks bud

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Absolutely go cordless. It has incredible power and we only charge it once a month or so.

We've had it for over a year now.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Yeah but the corded is so cheap by comparison, and the only drawback is the cord. Like if 99% of the sex you have that would include the hitachi is in the house, or somewhere private where the like 8 foot cord will probably reach an outlet (or you can get an extension cord for like $4) then you’re loving set. The battery option on the magic wand is solving a problem that very few people really have.

If you dream of taking your hitachi on a backpacking trip into the woods or a car ride there are better, more discrete options for less money.

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torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

Electric Bugaloo posted:

Yeah but the corded is so cheap by comparison, and the only drawback is the cord. Like if 99% of the sex you have that would include the hitachi is in the house, or somewhere private where the like 8 foot cord will probably reach an outlet (or you can get an extension cord for like $4) then you’re loving set. The battery option on the magic wand is solving a problem that very few people really have.

If you dream of taking your hitachi on a backpacking trip into the woods or a car ride there are better, more discrete options for less money.

No, no, no. The cord is in the way. It's never a matter of reach. Once you use the cordless, you never want to mess with an electrical cord snaking around the bed.

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