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Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


It seems crazy to remember now but there was a time up until the early 2000s when most auctions on eBay didn't have pictures, just a text description. Unless you were selling something that fit on a flatbed scanner or had one of these early lovely digital cameras, it was a huge pain in the rear end to get digital images of whatever you were selling so most people just didn't bother.

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Haha remember when displaying a “JPEG” file in a browser required a “helper app”



xpm forever

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Cojawfee posted:

When he was talking about how low resolution it was, I said to myself "320x240" and was still mind blown when he said the resolution.

Lol I did the exact same thing

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Data Graham posted:

Haha remember when displaying a “JPEG” file in a browser required a “helper app”

xpm forever

No, but I remember being mad when I had to get a new graphics viewer program because the one I used only supported .gif and like ugh who the hell knows, .pcx and .bmp, and suddenly people were using .JPG

I am pretty sure a similar thing happened with .png. Oh and then .webm.

My entire life has just been frustratingly finding a new viewer for a new graphics file

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I am not old enough to have experienced these problems despite completely understanding everything talked about.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Dr. Quarex posted:

No, but I remember being mad when I had to get a new graphics viewer program because the one I used only supported .gif and like ugh who the hell knows, .pcx and .bmp, and suddenly people were using .JPG

I am pretty sure a similar thing happened with .png. Oh and then .webm.

My entire life has just been frustratingly finding a new viewer for a new graphics file

I was excited when I first learned about PNGs. No artifacts like a gif, but lots of colors like a jpg. Super cool.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


This made me remember IrfanView, which I haven't thought about at all since the 90s. It looks just like I remember it, but it's apparently still receiving regular updates. :psyduck:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

This made me remember IrfanView, which I haven't thought about at all since the 90s. It looks just like I remember it, but it's apparently still receiving regular updates. :psyduck:

And it's still better than the standard Windows image viewer.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I used IrfanView a little while ago to mess with some weird jpeg metadata setting on photos because the Sony digital picture frame my wife had was very specific about it

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Dr. Quarex posted:

My entire life has just been frustratingly finding a new viewer for a new graphics file

This but video codecs for a good long while.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Trabant posted:

This but video codecs for a good long while.

kazaa/k-lite mega codec pack

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I still don't know why I resisted so hard against VLC. No thanks, I'd rather install this mega codec pack and media player classic like a dumbass.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


Cojawfee posted:

I still don't know why I resisted so hard against VLC. No thanks, I'd rather install this mega codec pack and media player classic like a dumbass.

There was a pretty long overlap of time where MPC had moved on to mostly using built-in decoders instead of dumbass codec packs but VLC, while compatible with tons of formats, still ran like total poo poo on everything.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I feel like I had strong feelings that GomPlayer was better than VLC, but I definitely use VLC exclusively now. Well, except I also freely acknowledge still putting IrfanView on nearly every system I have ever used because indeed it is still the best. Somehow managing to avoid becoming needlessly complicated overall despite having roughly 18,000 options you can set

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice

Cojawfee posted:

I still don't know why I resisted so hard against VLC. No thanks, I'd rather install this mega codec pack and media player classic like a dumbass.

It's the only media player I installed where clicking pause didn't immediately pause the content, which alone made it too irritating to use, though there was plenty else that I disliked. That was years ago, and I'm sure I could make it work like MPC with settings and plugins, but why bother?

media player related content so this isn't just a gripe: what was once my favourite windows media player skin, unbelievably
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQCfw0-6qKQ

and this thing
https://twitter.com/y2k_aesthetic/status/1104919722204659712

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Known Lecher posted:

It seems crazy to remember now but there was a time up until the early 2000s when most auctions on eBay didn't have pictures, just a text description. Unless you were selling something that fit on a flatbed scanner or had one of these early lovely digital cameras, it was a huge pain in the rear end to get digital images of whatever you were selling so most people just didn't bother.

It was a huge thing when eBay was able to get its search feature to search the titles and listings of each product.

For the first auction I won on eBay, I called the seller on the telephone and gave him my credit card number that way. PayPal hadn't been incorporated into listings yet and this was around 2000-2001.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
I remember buying stuff on eBay 20 years ago and you’d have to send the seller a money order

I bought a record from a guy and it turns out he lived near me and he just stopped by my house and knocked on the door

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Keith Atherton posted:

I remember buying stuff on eBay 20 years ago and you’d have to send the seller a money order

I bought a record from a guy and it turns out he lived near me and he just stopped by my house and knocked on the door

Do you still have the lampshade you made out of his skin?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I had the plugin for MSN Messenger that would show what you were listening/watching on Windows Media Player.

All my friends knew my taste in porn one day.

EDIT:

Just found a VHS that is the Rage simulcast of Triple J's Hottest 100 in 1999. It's amazingly good.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 11:09 on Mar 17, 2019

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!

Humphreys posted:

I had the plugin for MSN Messenger that would show what you were listening/watching on Windows Media Player.

All my friends knew my taste in porn one day.

EDIT:

Just found a VHS that is the Rage simulcast of Triple J's Hottest 100 in 1999. It's amazingly good.

That was a fear of mine, especially when Winamp kept trying to take over as the default video player for me.

Facebook should bring that 'what you are listening to' back.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


The hours I spent fiddling with "Now playing" scripts for mIRC :allears:

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

Keith Atherton posted:

I remember buying stuff on eBay 20 years ago and you’d have to send the seller a money order

eBay was quite labour intensive before the checkout and Paypal. I remember having to email the buyer, wait for a cheque to arrive, go to town to pay in the cheque, then wait for the cheque to clear before sending the item. People would frequently just send a cheque with no note so I'd have to comb through my recent sales and hope I could match the amount to something.

I didn't have a chequebook so I had to pay with postal orders too. Internet shopping, so convenient and futuristic! *queues in post office for 25 minutes to pay with fistful of postal orders with penny stamps on them*

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I still use irfanview as it’s easier to resize images in it en mase. Also I use MPC for some things in the theme park business because it has a separate play and pause buttons unlike VLC which has a combined play pause button

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

VLC still sucks monkey nuts, MPC is still better

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Last Chance posted:

VLC still sucks monkey nuts, MPC is still better

What's wrong with it? It plays things from my media server which is all I ask of it.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I've used VLC for years, it works well and is also cross-platform, so I don't have to gently caress around with different players on different operating systems.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Last Chance posted:

VLC still sucks monkey nuts, MPC is still better

Yeah it still has worse performance and lags with play/pause input and doesn't seem to handle deinterlacing at all for some reason which is really annoying for DVD rips

e: I installed MPC-BE because apparently the original has ended development and the UI is ugly as sin and I seem to be missing various playback related options so I'm seriously considering just installing the last MPC-HC build instead

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I always have (since Windows 98SE) cheap ready-made Windows boxes and I've never had performance issues with VLC. I understand this is worksformefuckyou but one would think performance is one thing that would be pretty consistent. Curious!

E: I don't mean I used VLC with W98SE.

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!
Jesus, I haven't moved on from 200x at all, I still use Winamp, MPC-HC and irfanview.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

I was never an MPC user because I'm not really a video enthusiast and VLC works fine for me but Winamp and Irfanview are solid no-bullshit media apps and I'll never judge anyone for using them in any decade.

I was more a foobar2000 type for music though, but I'm too lazy to even bother setting it up anymore now that I have a Google Play sub. I miss its 'shuffle albums' feature dearly though.

Edit: it seems Winamp has been acquired and changed a bit since v5 so it might not be the no-bullshit program I remember anymore

Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 22:06 on Mar 17, 2019

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
The art of making a useful desktop music player died with Winamp

I need something to play my loving mp3 and have a play / pause button

I don't want something that takes up the whole screen, tries to build libraries of everything on my disc and show me a novel and a´picture slideshow about the song I'm listening to. :bahgawd:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



steinrokkan posted:

The art of making a useful desktop music player died with Winamp

I need something to play my loving mp3 and have a play / pause button

I don't want something that takes up the whole screen, tries to build libraries of everything on my disc and show me a novel and a´picture slideshow about the song I'm listening to. :bahgawd:

Have you heard of VLC?

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

mng posted:

Jesus, I haven't moved on from 200x at all, I still use Winamp, MPC-HC and irfanview.

I was going to say that if I hadn't abandoned Windows a long time ago I'd still probably be using ancient crap like Paint Shop Pro and ACDSee, but I just googled them and apparently they both still exist as high-class image editing suites aimed at professional photographers. :stare:

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

VLC has been fine for years now. It pauses instantly and can even go frame-by-frame.

Some programs that are still great despite hardly changing over 15 years:

Irfanview
Audacity
Foobar2000
VLC
Notepad++

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Mak0rz posted:

Edit: it seems Winamp has been acquired and changed a bit since v5 so it might not be the no-bullshit program I remember anymore
The updated Winamp that came out relatively recently is more or less the same as the old Winamp 5, just with some bug fixes, under the hood tweaks and no paywall on certain features.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



wa27 posted:

VLC has been fine for years now. It pauses instantly and can even go frame-by-frame.

Some programs that are still great despite hardly changing over 15 years:

Irfanview
Audacity
VLC

Audacity is great, and like VLC has the benefit of being cross-platform.

On Windows I almost always end up installing Irfanview - it really is a great and reliable image viewer.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


I think that the only reason I stopped installing IrfanView on everything was that things got to where I could display most stuff I needed to in a web browser, then by the time 2000 rolled around I knew about stuff like ImageMagick and The GIMP. If I really had to put together a photo slideshow for some reason, I'd probably end up back on IrfanView again.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
I went with FastStone Image Viewer as my ACDSee v3 replacement. It's as close to ACDSee as I've been able to get and still being updated. Not perfect, mind you.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Horace posted:

I was big into online auctions in the late 90s/early 00s. I bought a capture card and took screen grabs from an old camcorder's live feed. While the quality was exactly what you're imagining, it was absolutely amazing being able to take a photo and immediately upload it and add it to a listing. It was one of those "this is the future!!!" moments. Besides, with enough light and a tripod the images weren't really that bad.

I have a parallel port capture card I got at a white elephant gift exchange in the present decade.

Might be this model. I don’t have it at hand for obvious reasons.

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Notepad++ is extremely good and anybody who works with text files on Windows should use it.

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