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I don't know why you wouldn't split. It's the most guaranteed feel goods for most parties.
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neaden posted:A magic MMO? In 2019? I'm not really sure what they are going for here. Page is already down so I guess not?
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Mar 18, 2019 22:45
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It's the same amount of feel goods! CFB doesn't say, "Oh, you're splitting? Let's just add another one person to the higher tier payout then!"
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Mar 18, 2019 22:46
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I hope they print more good cantrips in the next two sets so Drakes doesn’t totally die after rotation Although I guess the deck can just switch to a more Phoenix heavy build
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odiv posted:Why just outside the match? If I don't know my opponent then their situation should be immaterial to me too if we're looking at the pure EV of a decision. Your opponent's situation is material to the draw/play out decision because both players' payout factors into the EV calculation.
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Mar 18, 2019 22:50
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lotta people itt jumping through hoops to justify taking 1:5 odds on a fuckin coinflip
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Mar 18, 2019 22:53
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When I played Champs, my last round opponent and I agreed to a prize split and played for standings. The prizes were $250 for top 16 and $100 for top 32, and I just wanted $175 for the 2 $80 Japanese Rishadan Ports they had. That way everybody wins! Especially me because I can still tell everyone I got 12th at the biggest vintage tournament ever held instead of like 31st or whatever my opponent got, or the high teens we probably would have gotten if we'd drawn.
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Mar 18, 2019 23:20
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Getting to 30 points means you get a pro point right? They could have been playing for that.
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GoutPatrol posted:Getting to 30 points means you get a pro point right? They could have been playing for that. Don’t pro points not exist anymore?
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Mar 18, 2019 23:43
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Pro points don't exist now, right?
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Lone Goat posted:lotta people itt jumping through hoops to justify taking 1:5 odds on a fuckin coinflip depends on how good you are at calling coin flips. according to the story baron tells the guy increased his take 50 bucks for 50 minutes work. that's probably more than most of us make in our cube farms for a given hours work 
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I don't think you can justify being annoyed at anyone for not taking an ID at a competitive game, no matter what prizes are involved. I don't have a problem with people offering them, but if the opponent says "no," just play it out and move on. This is no different from Efro talking about "concession equity," so I don't really understand the vitriol against people saying that they wouldn't necessarily always ID. I know in Baron's case the opponent was an rear end in a top hat about it, so I'm not saying the opponent acted reasonably, but if the fact that they didn't want to draw bothered you (anyone here), you should probably re-evaluate how deep into competitive magic you are, because that's some serious stockholm syndrome poo poo.
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Mar 18, 2019 23:57
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TheKingofSprings posted:Winnipeg doesn’t have much in the way of other options for places to pick them up from. Facetoface had them on their site last year so I'll bet they'll have them again
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Mar 19, 2019 00:02
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Jesus can we go back to rare redraft chat
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Exactly this. By saying you'd rather play it out, in essence you're saying exactly what others have been saying here: that $250 is worth less to you than the idea of winning that match for some reason, whether that's to get a few more points for your ego or that you are truly an rear end in a top hat and enjoy the idea of taking that away from your opponent or whatever. These are perfectly valid reasons to value playing that match out over taking the money, none of which make you someone I would ever want to know. the only reason you're spending your entire day at a magic tournament is because you value playing competitive games of magic in order to try and win more than everyone else more than earning money with that time or doing any number of other things like they seem like they might have been a dick but you're being incredibly entitled that it is wrong of them to want to do...the exact activity you're all there to do...so im kinda suspecting that perhaps they weren't that big of a dick and you were just projecting your being upset they wouldn't just give you what you wanted
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Jesus can we go back to rare redraft chat The EV of redraft chat is strictly lower for everyone.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Jesus can we go back to rare redraft chat is everyone obliged to announce their rare picks to help people discuss splits in a rare redraft scenario? sometimes i like to deckbuild my picks in secret so as to retain that edge
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Owlbear Camus posted:depends on how good you are at calling coin flips. according to the story baron tells the guy increased his take 50 bucks for 50 minutes work. that's probably more than most of us make in our cube farms for a given hours work i work in a warehouse
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mandatory lesbian posted:i work in a warehouse i sleep in a racecar
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tbh this thread is a lot more fun when it goes off on some random garbage topic than the relentless negativity that is any normal discussion
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admanb posted:tbh this thread is a lot more fun when it goes off on some random garbage topic than the relentless negativity that is any normal discussion once the live action remake is released from the disney vault™, i am going to buy you a new avvy with the closest frame grab i can find of blue wilhelm schmidt
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Owlbear Camus posted:once the live action remake is released from the disney vault™, i am going to buy you a new avvy with the closest frame grab i can find of blue wilhelm schmidt that will be awful. thank you
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The person who refuses to chop up the top 8 is always one of the people who don't make the semis. Just FYI.
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That sounds pretty results oriented.
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Sickening posted:The person who refuses to chop up the top 8 is always one of the people who don't make the semis. Just FYI. The one time I got top 8 at an open the only person who didn't want to chop was BBD and he won, but also, that's BBD and he can pull that off and it work out for him.
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mandatory lesbian posted:i work in a warehouse Owlbear Camus posted:i sleep in a racecar can you two please stop bragging about your blessed lives?
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C-Euro posted:Page is already down so I guess not? Link got messed up, here you go: http://epicstream.com/news/JakeVyper/Magic-The-Gathering-MMORPG-in-Development-From-Cryptic-Studios
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That MMO was announced two years ago. The shocking thing is that it hasn't been killed yet.
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Owlbear Camus posted:depends on how good you are at calling coin flips. according to the story baron tells the guy increased his take 50 bucks for 50 minutes work. that's probably more than most of us make in our cube farms for a given hours work My friend, let me tell you about the wonder of unions and overtime. and crushing student loan debt that still makes life barely manageable with an average of >16 hours of overtime a week Sickening posted:The person who refuses to chop up the top 8 is always one of the people who don't make the semis. Just FYI. The one time it happened to me, he lost in the semis. I split and won the finals  Thanks for the extra $150, Stu! I also crushed affinity at 2/0 at the last GP side event I played after he refused to split, even when he was down a game. My favorite thing is crushing people who no-sir the split.
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admanb posted:That MMO was announced two years ago. The shocking thing is that it hasn't been killed yet. the only thing stopping wotc from sinking large amounts of resources into a bunch of failed projects is they don't bother putting resources into anything
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neaden posted:Link got messed up, here you go: http://epicstream.com/news/JakeVyper/Magic-The-Gathering-MMORPG-in-Development-From-Cryptic-Studios I would play a video game based on the Magic license but an MMO ain't it. No I'm not counting online clients for the actual card game when I say this.
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They would make SO MUCH money if they just made Shandalar with new cards. Don't even upgrade the graphics. Literally just add all the cards in the game. Keep ante, keep the ridiculous difficulty curve, keep the brokenness of building a deck with only Shivan Dragon and always starting with one in play against the castle bosses.
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Shandalar is dope, but I played it just last year and have to say that it's a bit dated. The core idea is excellent but the overworld stuff needs some iteration. You basically just walk from town to town looking for a quest, then the quest says travel to the next town and you'll get a gem. Then you just do that a bunch and occasionally explore a dungeon to get a power 9 card, and occasionally hit the random encounter that lets you buy whatever card you want, and occasionally hit the encounter that lets you get an additional copy of a card in your deck, and eventually you're finally strong enough to win the game. If they improved the stuff between owning NPCs with your channel mind twist or whatever fun poo poo you're running it would be perfect.
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lmao old mate doesn't need justification to play out a competitive match no matter how y'all spin it, especially considering it paid off
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neaden posted:A magic MMO? In 2019? I'm not really sure what they are going for here. This is literally the 2017 announcement that somebody is posting for clicks in 2019.
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Tainen posted:New art Three pages of poo poo chat, and no one has commented that they literally have a walker Spirit Bomb going on here?
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AlternateNu posted:Three pages of poo poo chat, and no one has commented that they literally have a walker Spirit Bomb going on here? Wouldn't be the first time they've done it. E: how many / which pros do y'all think are goons? Fantastic Foreskin fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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neaden posted:A magic MMO? In 2019? I'm not really sure what they are going for here. oh, are you not familiar with ~live services~? every company on the planet thinks they can get you to pay to play one or actually up to three of the games they make, forever. there's nothing involved in this beyond dollar signs. odiv posted:I'm imagining asking EFro or Owen to play a game for fun after an ID and I don't really see that happening for some reason. this is my problem, all of my matches are only against serious pros and there's no "playing for fun"
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suicidesteve posted:They would make SO MUCH money if they just made Shandalar with new cards. Don't even upgrade the graphics. Literally just add all the cards in the game. Keep ante, keep the ridiculous difficulty curve, keep the brokenness of building a deck with only Shivan Dragon and always starting with one in play against the castle bosses. Ada posted:Shandalar is dope, but I played it just last year and have to say that it's a bit dated. The core idea is excellent but the overworld stuff needs some iteration. You basically just walk from town to town looking for a quest, then the quest says travel to the next town and you'll get a gem. Then you just do that a bunch and occasionally explore a dungeon to get a power 9 card, and occasionally hit the random encounter that lets you buy whatever card you want, and occasionally hit the encounter that lets you get an additional copy of a card in your deck, and eventually you're finally strong enough to win the game. If they improved the stuff between owning NPCs with your channel mind twist or whatever fun poo poo you're running it would be perfect. I'm currently playing the version of Shandalar with new cards that someone put together before getting chased off the internet by legal threats. It's really good and all I want is a modern game dev to get a chance to do something like that with the IP. Last month I finished playing Yu-Gi-Oh World Championship 2007, which has a "limited duel" game mode which forced you to build certain kinds of decks. Yu-Gi-Oh sucks, and the cardbase was woefully inadequate for a lot of the challenges, but could you imagine a Shandalar with 10,000 MTG cards where you wander from town to town, doing quests and getting cards and getting challenges to win a fight with a certain kind of deck? How could you play anything else? Hell even an Arena single player mode with just Standard cards would be killer. anyway capitalism is a plague
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mandatory lesbian posted:I've done this before, and while it was extremely low stakes I can see why even with higher stakes you could still just wanna play it out for the fun of it rkajdi posted:I get that, but if I'm going someplace to play a game, I'm going there to play the game. I'd always rather play a game than not, even if it's going to hurt my standings/EV on an average basis. You really need to adjust your mindset when it's a long, high stakes event. If it was a weekly four-round event or whatever then i won't bat an eye if someone wants to play it out for the last round, but when you're in the 10-4 bracket of a 2-day tournament, you already gotten to play the game. If you're the "play to win" type, cashing an event and ending with a 10-4-1 record is absolutely a win. those events are also loving exhausting You're entirely within your rights to refuse a draw, but there's not a lot of logical reasons for doing it in the situation being discussed, and it's not at all comparable to playing out a game in the 3-0 bracket for a handful of lgs fun bux
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