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I think the video is old but it's still loving disgusting. He doesn't refer to them as terrorist or attackers, just muslims. https://twitter.com/ProudResister/status/1107790858462482432 e: Imagine changing this to a muslim crowd calling the Christchurch terrorists "christians".
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Mar 19, 2019 04:36
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pseudorandom name posted:https://twitter.com/Susan_Hennessey/status/1107820007663251458 It's a nice reminder that we don't have a justice system, we have a legal system. I'm not sure if that's much more than semantics but it sounds good to me.
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Mar 19, 2019 04:39
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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1106374093748744192 Holy poo poo these people.
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Mar 19, 2019 04:48
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syntaxrigger posted:Ok so I want to know. WTF is up with the okay hand gesture. A few pages late, but: part of the reason that the "okay" symbol was specifically chosen was because of the "it's okay to be white" trolling campaign.
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Mar 19, 2019 04:51
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Young Freud posted:From what I've heard, slavery in antiquity was a lot like what we would consider indentured servitude, where you could serve you time, earn some dinars on the side to buy your freedom, or curry favor with your master to earn your freedom. It was just the whole racial component of dark-skinned Africans serving white-skinned masters that made American slavery as dehumanizing and brutal as it was. More or less, yea. The 'classical slavery' systems were basically indentured servitude with no real set end point, so obviously it was super exploitable but there were lots of venues where a slave could, if not fully become free, at the very least rise to a status that basically amounted to 'permanent worker', because most ancient systems of slavery were based around the idea that your slave was a person. A lesser person than you, for sure, but a person. Chattel slavery created a system where the slave was not actually a person at all, and therefor didn't deserve any of those venues, so outliers such as an American slave who bought his own freedom were much, much, rarer and owners had no real reason to give their slave more than the literal bare minimum to not die (and even then eeeeeeh not often), and that was entirely due to the racial elements. Even other colonial empires like Rome at least often allowed their captured slaves to be in the same system as the 'normal' ones. It was obviously a worse system since the Roman owner likely was less charitable to a 'barbarian', but still they had the same laws and social customs keeping them from being too abused without repercussion.
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Mar 19, 2019 04:55
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Also, realize the "black people owned slaves, too" was often people freed buying their own family members to free them.
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Mar 19, 2019 04:57
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RandomBlue posted:https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1106374093748744192 Are they not aware how evil and ghoulish this is? 
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Mar 19, 2019 05:01
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Can we not get all nostalgic for the good old days of nice slavery?
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Mar 19, 2019 05:02
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RandomBlue posted:Can we not get all nostalgic for the good old days of nice slavery? The only Slave-Master relationship I'm nostalgic for is the one on an IDE ribbon
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Mar 19, 2019 05:03
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TheScott2K posted:The only Slave-Master relationship I'm nostalgic for is the one on an IDE ribbon That might even be worse. SATA is so much nicer. e: it's not
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Mar 19, 2019 05:05
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RandomBlue posted:That might even be worse. SATA is so much nicer. never had to hook up a floppy drive to make Windows XP install to an IDE drive checkmate, SATAilures
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Mar 19, 2019 05:06
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Darko posted:Also, realize the "black people owned slaves, too" was often people freed buying their own family members to free them. The real tragic one is the heir to a plantation realizing they're a mixed-race due to a master raping slaves for generations but can pass as white, that the people working the fields are more his family than the master, but he can't free them because the way the South worked, they'd be re-enslaved at some point the moment they're off the grounds and he could do nothing about except keep them on the plantation pretending to be his slaves.
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Mar 19, 2019 05:09
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Furnaceface posted:Are they not aware how evil and ghoulish this is? They've been carefully taught not to be.
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Mar 19, 2019 05:21
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Young Freud posted:The real tragic one is the heir to a plantation realizing they're a mixed-race due to a master raping slaves for generations but can pass as white, that the people working the fields are more his family than the master, but he can't free them because the way the South worked, they'd be re-enslaved at some point the moment they're off the grounds and he could do nothing about except keep them on the plantation pretending to be his slaves. Are there any examples of this properly recorded?
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Mar 19, 2019 05:22
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RandomBlue posted:https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1106374093748744192 The reservation I live and work on has 85-90% unemployment (a few more jobs avaiable during construction season) because they were forced to settle on the least-productive land and that land base has also shrunk over the decades. The US federal government literally confiscated half of the reservation land because they weren't developing it "correctly"... then sold that land to white farmers. It's not a failure of capitalism or socialism, it's a failure of the US federal government to uphold treaty obligations and human rights. The history of Native American vs. US gov't relations is one long story of genocide. Different flavors of genocide! The situation on most reservations is simply a continuation of various genocide strategies. Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Mar 19, 2019 05:23
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RandomBlue posted:https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1106374093748744192 brazen bull all people that wear bow ties that arent Bill Nye.
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Mar 19, 2019 05:25
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Young Freud posted:From what I've heard, slavery in antiquity was a lot like what we would consider indentured servitude, where you could serve you time, earn some dinars on the side to buy your freedom, or curry favor with your master to earn your freedom. This was unfortunately not always true. There were a lot of slaves who just ended up being worked to death in salt mines in Sicily or other hellish areas. They just weren't as visible, both literally and figuratively.
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Mar 19, 2019 05:26
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TheScott2K posted:The only Slave-Master relationship I'm nostalgic for is the one on an IDE ribbon If you haven't seen it, a lot of communities have stopped using slave-master to describe relationships between databases. The discussions around the code and documentation changes are as shittily racist as you would guess. https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692
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Mar 19, 2019 05:27
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lolllll I know for most of the country this is an insulting low blow on poverty stricken communities, but as a resident of CT I um... lmao
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Mar 19, 2019 05:36
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https://twitter.com/MichLKosinski/status/1107822734803910656 Another normal day in the US.
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Mar 19, 2019 05:38
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YodaTFK posted:https://twitter.com/MichLKosinski/status/1107822734803910656 I assume the ACLU already has a lawsuit filed or is prepping one.
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Mar 19, 2019 05:48
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I figured Egypt has shitloads of huge ancient monuments apparently because between the agricultural seasons there was a huge amount of farmers with not much to do so it was easy to pay them to help build a really big thing over a few decades. (paid out of taxes taken from the fruits of their labour, of course, but still) This is the generally-accepted understanding these days, yeah: roughly 5,000 permanent salaried workers, and 10k-35k seasonal workers drawn from agriculture who were either paid by taxes or paying off a tax burden. "They must have had a lot of slaves building these" is based on Greek assumptions from two thousand years later.
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Mar 19, 2019 06:02
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Besesoth posted:This is the generally-accepted understanding these days, yeah: roughly 5,000 permanent salaried workers, and 10k-35k seasonal workers drawn from agriculture who were either paid by taxes or paying off a tax burden. "They must have had a lot of slaves building these" is based on Greek assumptions from two thousand years later. All fed with onions, fermented cabbage, and beer. The worker's barracks must have been hell. Apparently the Romans opted to use convicts in their cinnabar mines since it was seen as a death sentence (mercury poisoning suuuuucks) and slaves didn't warrant such harsh treatment. bij fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Mar 19, 2019 06:05
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Potential BFF posted:All fed with onions, fermented cabbage, and beer. That is how they got the workers out of the barracks every morning.
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Mar 19, 2019 06:07
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There's an Asterix joke where a temple in Egypt is being built by free laborers because there's a slave shortage, and they all take turns with the whip.
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Mar 19, 2019 06:11
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Pictured: A man who clearly has killed a goat in cold blood (left), a man who has obviously eaten raw goat (right)
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Mar 19, 2019 06:11
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RandomBlue posted:https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1106374093748744192 I thought that Venezuela was being used disingenuously This is a whole 'nother level. Indian Reservations are poor because we keep them poor. The end.
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Mar 19, 2019 06:50
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RandomBlue posted:https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1106374093748744192 This video is a hate crime.
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Mar 19, 2019 08:12
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Why can't she say her tribe?
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Mar 19, 2019 08:30
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American chattal slavery is among the worst things we've seen from humanity, full stop. But being a slave of antiquity was not some slightly shittier version of today's working class. If you witnessed a crime or otherwise were needed to give testimony, it had to be extracted through torture since slaves were not trusted to give honest accounts by the legal system (no matter how much of an innocent bystander they are). Being merely threatened with death was not enough of a deterrent, slave revolts popped up all over the place, it was pretty much the chief concern. No, they had to up the ante so that simple execution was the pedestrian punishment you got for mitigating circumstances in your misdeeds. Once invented, manufacturing crucifixes was a thriving industry well before Christianity became a thing. Though before it became an industry that makes decorative religious iconography, they were churning out the real deal and people died on them in uncountable masses, over centuries. Part of what caused American slavery to be so much worse is there was z-e-r-o cultural overlap between opressor and oppressed. Every fashionable Roman house wanted a Macedonian slave, preferably one who was well educated from a good family and could tell stories about their direct ancestors fighting alongside Alexander the Great. By the time African slaves were across the Atlantic, their past was completely severed. They were seen as good for labor and that was it. That brings us to the other reason American slavery is so much worse: human capacity for generating wealth had soared far beyond the imagination of anyone from ancient times. The story of American slavery and the transformations it took goes hand in hand with America's meteoric rise of prosperity from colonies to revolution to the civil war. Virginia slaves in the 18th century feared being sold South to Georgia, where the work was at a higher scale and efficiency, and their part in it even more dehumanized. Georgia slaves of the 19th century feared being sold West to Louisiana, Texas, and beyond where the scope of industry again dwarfed what was and their labor would be ground out of them with even further cruelty. It is definitely a word that had different meanings over different parts of history, but wherever slavery finds itself an institution at scale driving a powerful hegemony... Yeah, those are the real bad ones. Bhaal fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Mar 19, 2019 08:33
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TheScott2K posted:The only Slave-Master relationship I'm nostalgic for is the one on an IDE ribbon A bunch of developers where I work have been calling for our DevOps guys to change "slave" and "master" tags of our DBs
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Mar 19, 2019 08:58
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Meat diet chat. I went back and looked for the vitamin C explanation. Supposedly glucose and vitamin c share the same pathways for absorption into cells and glucose wins out preferentially. Therefore, if you are only eating meat and no carbs at all then there is no glucose to compete with so the small amounts in meat are enough, but if you eat carbs you have to get more vitamin c to get the same amount. I am not a scientist but assuming A. They share the same absorption pathway and B. Glucose beats out vitamin c then the reasoning makes sense to me. That's why I said it sounds reasonable but I have no idea if it is true. Feel free to tell me why it's wrong, I find it interesting either way.
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Mar 19, 2019 09:10
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CyberPingu posted:A bunch of developers where I work have been calling for our DevOps guys to change "slave" and "master" tags of our DBs I can see it. It's not a big deal for me, a white guy, but I can see it being for others, and it costs me nothing to change it. And if I was designing a system from scratch today I wouldn't leap to be using terms like "master" and "slave" to describe things.
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Mar 19, 2019 09:28
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D-Pad posted:Meat diet chat. I went back and looked for the vitamin C explanation. Or, you know, just take a multivitamin because every OTC multi has like 500% of your RDV of Vitamin C in it.
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Mar 19, 2019 09:30
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 RandomBlue posted:I think the video is old but it's still loving disgusting. He doesn't refer to them as terrorist or attackers, just muslims. Trump was asked a question by a chud at one of his rallies and replied 'right' when the guy said Obama is Muslim. Trying to find it, I came across this: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/673741357190615040 Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Mar 19, 2019 09:43
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It’s the weird paradox that Trump is supposed to be in the eyes of a lot of people this strong man’s man. But that tweet is pretty on point in terms of him just not really knowing the most famous boxer who ever lived off the top of his head and not knowing one of the most famous basketball players who ever lived off the top of his head.
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Mar 19, 2019 11:26
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Senor Tron posted:Are there any examples of this properly recorded? Not sure about that specific example, but there is William Johnson of Natchez, Mississippi. He was born a slave to a wealthy plantation owner, who had to petition the state legislature to free his son, since slaveowners weren't allowed to free their own slaves. Johnson became a successful barber, owned over a dozen of his own slaves, and kept a detailed diary about his life in Natchez until his death (Shot and killed by another free black, who got off with two hung juries when he made the argument that he was actually white, and neither jury could come to an agreement if he actually was) (yes that is extremely hosed up). Anyway, his house is still around and managed by the National Park Service as a part of Natchez National Historic Park, and is definitely worth seeing if you're in that corner of Mississippi for... some reason.
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Mar 19, 2019 11:58
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Timeless Appeal posted:It’s the weird paradox that Trump is supposed to be in the eyes of a lot of people this strong man’s man. But that tweet is pretty on point in terms of him just not really knowing the most famous boxer who ever lived off the top of his head and not knowing one of the most famous basketball players who ever lived off the top of his head. They don't care, some consider it a point in his favour.
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Timeless Appeal posted:It’s the weird paradox that Trump is supposed to be in the eyes of a lot of people this strong man’s man. But that tweet is pretty on point in terms of him just not really knowing the most famous boxer who ever lived off the top of his head and not knowing one of the most famous basketball players who ever lived off the top of his head. A strong 'man's man' is the direct opposite of the warrior poet. Warrior poets are 'fags' to these people because they are, in plain parlance, cultureless shitbirds and they are proud of it.
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