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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 209 days!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

So long as liberals keep believing in "the marketplace of ideas" and letting white supremacists and nationalists have a seat at the table as "just another opinion," then they'll keep maintaining a social environment that's cultivating fascist ideologies of all stripes.

This actually gives the libs way too much credit. They allow the white supremacists a seat at the table and a booth in the "marketplace of ideas," but actively suppress any expression of ideas which offer a substantial alternative. This is because they are hypocrites in everything they say- they tolerate and promote the hate they claim to fight as a foil to their own agenda, and their free marketplace of ideas is a carefully curated monopoly of their pet ideologies and a few token non-alternatives.

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Which is why I concur that Stalinist indoctrination starting at birth is the only legitimate solution

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

The Big Word posted:

Isn't laci green a white nationalist? I don't think I'm remembering that wrong

Admiral Ray posted:

nah, not a white nationalist. at least, not in anything she's stated publicly. she is dating chris ray gun, though, and has demonstrated a real striking naivete about the role of talking it out with alt-right pieces of poo poo, like sargon. she got into a few stupid internet slapfights with leftist and trans activists but hasn't said anything actually on the same level as her lovely bf has about BLM as far as i know.

sooooooo yes

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Taintrunner posted:

I'm honestly starting to grow incredibly sick of this. The well off liberal class abandoned the needs of working people and let them suffer under shitheaded landlords and rentseekers for multiple decades now, as we let unironic fascists poke their heads up to provide answers to these poor bastards questions as to why their commitment to a white supremacist economy didn't treat them to a life of luxury and sweets. Is it their fault they didn't subscribe wholeheartedly to a woke antiracist communist revolution overnight? Maybe. But we've let these people wander the economic ]despair of the now without a framework to escape it in exchange for smugly snarking down at them, and frankly, it's loving embarrassing.

The vast majority of Americans have shitheaded landlords and rentseekers that keep stealing the loving wealth they generate as laborers, we don't gain anything from acting like loving shithead liberals to try and rest atop the shitpile before this entire global order collapses beneath our feet. Aiming for heaven though serving in hell; victory is ours their forces will fall. Through the gates of hell, as we make our way to heaven - through the [neo]Nazi lines.

There are far more working people in America who would much rather go out putting a blade in the stomach of a white nationalist than waiting around for a technocratic Silicon Valley dipshit to raffle off a ticket to Mars. I have already committed to hijacking any surface to air missile platform that will let me prevent Elon Musk from escaping, I won't let any fellow C-SPAMMER die before realizing their true purpose as a Class Warrior.

is this a copy pasta, and if it isn't why did you start quoting sabaton lyrics halfway through?

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Hellsau posted:

is this a copy pasta, and if it isn't why did you start quoting sabaton lyrics halfway through?

its a good band, hellsau

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

freckle posted:

its a good band, hellsau

trufax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU4e50fERiY

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

Hodgepodge posted:

This actually gives the libs way too much credit. They allow the white supremacists a seat at the table and a booth in the "marketplace of ideas," but actively suppress any expression of ideas which offer a substantial alternative. This is because they are hypocrites in everything they say- they tolerate and promote the hate they claim to fight as a foil to their own agenda, and their free marketplace of ideas is a carefully curated monopoly of their pet ideologies and a few token non-alternatives.

"The Marketplace of Ideas" works according to market principles, so if you have no money to buy your way in to the market then you have no seat at the table. That way it's easy to pretend that the dialectical process is open to everyone in an equalistic "legal" sense, but the material conditions for participating are decisively unequal. That's why Richard Spencer gets human interest profiles in Mother Jones, where no Maoist Third Worldist has even gotten so much as an interview. With the collapse of the Second World, there is no meaningful material support for the far left. The left is an intellectual blindspot for liberals because socialist politics have completely disappeared from the discoursive media tradition. It's not so much an active exclusion that's curated by liberal hegemony, so much as a systemic disenfranchisement.

That might sound daunting and depressing, but the advantage here is that everybody in the mainstream, and most everyone on the far right have forgotten how to deal with socialists and communists except as trite caricatures. Their only response to a resurgent left is to spew out hollow bromides that you're expected to nod along to, and just keep sitting on the seats of power while ignoring the problem.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
owen benjamin has gone full 1488

https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1107945688053227520

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Which one was he? So many people have been driven insane by the fash over the last couple years that they all blend together.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
the really lovely comedian obsessed with david hoggs dick

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

His schtick is playing songs on a piano that only Crowder fans would think are funny, so he's literally a prop comedian.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1074738549931630593

CheeseSpawn
Sep 15, 2004
Doctor Rope

Jose posted:

the really lovely comedian obsessed with david hoggs dick

I think also he thought he was a part of the IDW but they said he wasnt in the club. He had some tantrum about them and called them out or something too.

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes
Self-owning Benjamin looks like a young Dennis Hopper caught in the headlights.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
loving hypnolaw.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

papa_november posted:

the reason bitcoin and tor even exist is that they make funding and communicating with your agents in the field a piece of cake and both the christchurch shooter and weev (and likely many more) were/are sitting on a small crypto fortune

so! i have literally just this weekend done the research on this (just got article in to editor this morning).

weev is crypto rich, and is discovering that cashing out is not so easy or convenient in transnistria or whatever desperate shithole he's most recently scurried off to

daily stormer is crypto-comfortable (hundreds of thousands of $), gently caress anglin

others, mostly not - maybe the very few who are both nazis and ardent bitcoiners, but the venn diagram intersection is thankfully not in fact that big - though bigger than the % in the general population unfortunately

nz shooter shitpile was just talking bullshit in his manifesto about crypto - my friday blog post

spoke to john bambenek, daniel harper and david golumbia about the situation on the ground in 2019:

* it's getting harder to cash out, and Coinbase (one of the few US crypto exchanges where you can get actual US dollar cash out with any trust or reliability) actively seek and remove extremists from their platform (they kicked Gab in its entirety)

* the nazi podcasts don't even talk about crypto any more - they all have a bitcoin donation address up, but they don't publicise it

* except cantwell, who is a hilariously losing POS in every regard - bought up big in dec 2017, tried so hard to get crypto donations but his fans found it too complicated, and he tried to get a credit card processor and found one who were fine with his content - but refused to touch him because he touched crypto :-D

i'll link the article here when it's up, and might publish the daniel harper transcript on the blog as outtakes (brings the cantwell lols)

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

divabot posted:

so! i have literally just this weekend done the research on this (just got article in to editor this morning).

weev is crypto rich, and is discovering that cashing out is not so easy or convenient in transnistria or whatever desperate shithole he's most recently scurried off to

daily stormer is crypto-comfortable (hundreds of thousands of $), gently caress anglin

others, mostly not - maybe the very few who are both nazis and ardent bitcoiners, but the venn diagram intersection is thankfully not in fact that big - though bigger than the % in the general population unfortunately

nz shooter shitpile was just talking bullshit in his manifesto about crypto - my friday blog post

spoke to john bambenek, daniel harper and david golumbia about the situation on the ground in 2019:

* it's getting harder to cash out, and Coinbase (one of the few US crypto exchanges where you can get actual US dollar cash out with any trust or reliability) actively seek and remove extremists from their platform (they kicked Gab in its entirety)

* the nazi podcasts don't even talk about crypto any more - they all have a bitcoin donation address up, but they don't publicise it

* except cantwell, who is a hilariously losing POS in every regard - bought up big in dec 2017, tried so hard to get crypto donations but his fans found it too complicated, and he tried to get a credit card processor and found one who were fine with his content - but refused to touch him because he touched crypto :-D

i'll link the article here when it's up, and might publish the daniel harper transcript on the blog as outtakes (brings the cantwell lols)
the marketplace of crypto ideas

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

it’s a bubble stone toss.jpeg

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

divabot posted:

he tried to get a credit card processor and found one who were fine with his content - but refused to touch him because he touched crypto :-D

this right here is the funniest bit

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
The PragerU video on modern art is legitmately one of the single most insanely idiotic videos I have ever watched. I'm including fail videos, backyard wrestling videos and videos of dogs trying to eat garbage.

Seriously everyone in this thread needs to watch it. It's a video that's entire thesis is literally "MODERN ART IS UGLY AND DUMB AND ONLY LIBERALS LIKE IT!" and it's meant to be this powerful look at the history of art.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/bradesposito/status/1107846225393414144

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything


Pewdiepie posted:

Knees is one of the most painful places in the body to get shekeled. Shekeled?

Oh God what have I done.

Shackled. Shattered. Shattered is what I said.

Shekeled? Is that a word?

I didn't mean for any other meaning. loving Hell. (laughs) Let's just move on.

(Laughs) Oh God.

It doesn't matter. They've hacked my brain. They've hacked my brain to say stuff that might get me in trouble.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

OldTennisCourt posted:

The PragerU video on modern art is legitmately one of the single most insanely idiotic videos I have ever watched. I'm including fail videos, backyard wrestling videos and videos of dogs trying to eat garbage.

Seriously everyone in this thread needs to watch it. It's a video that's entire thesis is literally "MODERN ART IS UGLY AND DUMB AND ONLY LIBERALS LIKE IT!" and it's meant to be this powerful look at the history of art.

modern art was financed by the CIA to challenge Soviet cultural dominance lmao

if you showed them a socialist realism painting but told them an American painted it they’d think it’s good art w/ high standards

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1107804190087237636?s=21

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

“Learn to draw women” just translates to “draw me tiddy that I can fantasize about” for these porn addled guys.

These guys are so porn addled and addicted that not having a big list of categories they can use to filter out what they don’t want to see in reality breaks their brain. So they try and lash out to remove it instead of just...not consuming that content.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
get me those spaghetti knees

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
My absolute favorite ComicsGate thing is how literally any female character without enormous tits or a skin tight latex short shorts outfit is a result of SJWs trying to uglify comics.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

I would've just assumed that's gender swapped Samus or something. It'll certainly never enrich the world like Rooshv carrying Hatsune Miku.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Normal human being: oh cool fanart, I'm not sure I'm into this interpretation but it's well drawn so whatever

ComicsGater: Wow, now this right here is the SJW menace ruining us all, let me get on TwitLonger to explain how this piece of fanart will lead us down a rabbit hole of nightmarish censorship and horror and the end of femininity as we know it, perhaps the human race in full and furthermore

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
comicsgate is looking more like qanon the past few week trying to explain captain marvels box office numbers

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

OldTennisCourt posted:

My absolute favorite ComicsGate thing is how literally any female character without enormous tits or a skin tight latex short shorts outfit is a result of SJWs trying to uglify comics.

to be fair the comics also set unrealistic standards for men as well

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

Reclines Obesily posted:

comicsgate is looking more like qanon the past few week trying to explain captain marvels box office numbers

they're bulk buying tickets the same way right wing PACs get conservative books on the NYT bestseller list

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



smarxist posted:

to be fair the comics also set unrealistic standards for men as well



he only got so swole because he wants to punch nazis and have them not get back up to be a problem again. something we can all aspire to, really

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Very cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLlnZGj83vM

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the reason she got roasted for dating chris ray gun was he once shared that bullshit black on white crime image and asked people if it was legit (the same garbage trump shared incidentally). he could spent two seconds googling to figure it out, the way he framed it was like hmmm this seems real can anyone prove it wrong???

he's also very dumb about politics but like every popular youtube decides to weigh in and is one of those "both sides" dipshits.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

modern art was financed by the CIA to challenge Soviet cultural dominance lmao

if you showed them a socialist realism painting but told them an American painted it they’d think it’s good art w/ high standards

Modern art is also really good for laundering money.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 28 days!)

Montasque posted:

Modern art is also really good for laundering money.

"modern art" is such a vague term anyway that spans too much art history to even take seriously, and you know what they're really talking about is abstract stuff that's not representative of anything real. Art is only good if it perfectly mirrors reality, and you can't even call it a fascist sentiment because even the Italian futurists were creating some really impressive aesthetic abstractions of modernity. It's just boring conservative sentimentality.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


thomas kinkade is the ultimate fash artist

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

the painter of white

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Icon Of Sin posted:

he only got so swole because he wants to punch nazis and have them not get back up to be a problem again. something we can all aspire to, really

the best captain america moment is when he yelled at a bunch of nationalists that "a flag is a piece of cloth, a country is a line on a map, the only thing that matters is the people and you guys fuckin suck"

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