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AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
The decision has been made. The Party is united in its support.

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420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Retroactively changing my vote from A to B in the name of democratic centralism :ussr:

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Xelkelvos posted:

This is why I suggested Ranked-Choice. FPtP is a terrible system of election.

What are you talking about? We just voted unanimously for Mizanur Ridwan to become Supreme Leader.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB0yZBVoSN4

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Time to export the revolution.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Hashim posted:

And so Mizanur shall be declared our new Supreme Leader, though only just. Looks like we're in for an explosive year...

I think you mean Mizanur shall be declared our new Supreme Leader by a unanimous vote of the Politburo, comrade.


:hmmyes: And if you note, Jalb Al-Ahmaq was the one leading that vote!

Frionnel posted:

Guys, we're not Stalin. We're Beria. :getin:

Not that it would make things that much better given how legit monstrous Beria was, but hopefully our new SL is less rapey. please don't tell him I said that.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Mar 19, 2019

Vinny Possum
Sep 21, 2015

THUNDERDOME LOSER

habeasdorkus posted:

I think you mean Mizanur shall be declared our new Supreme Leader by a unanimous vote of the Politburo, comrade.


I think you mean Minazur has been declared our new Supreme Leader by unanimous demand of the patriotic workers of Iberia.

It sounds like you long for the decadent days of the Majlis al-Shura, "comrade".

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

I've helpfully compiled a list of people for the secret police to look into:

quote:

Soup du Jour, Ikasuhito, Mr.Morgenstern, orangelex44, Guper, 420 Gank Mid, GSD, Flavius Aetass, zedar, Slaan, everydayfalls, aqu, Captainicus, Average Lettuce, Zikan, paragon1, Talas, MaxieSatan, Crazycryodude, Hitlers Gay Secret, Pakled, Tiberius Thyben, NewMars, ChrisAsmadi, rudecyrus, HiHo ChiRho, devildragon777, Technowolf, AJ_Impy, loving love Fiona Apple, skipThings, Danny Glands, Polgas, Pacho, tatankatonk, WilliamAnderson, Caustic Soda, Vinny Possum, Stalingrad, ChaseSP, Lustful Man Hugs, Hefty Leftist, wiegieman, V. Illych L., Top Hats Monthly, Eleven Eleven, Rodyle, puppets freak me out, Tiger Crazy, RabidWeasel, Agean90, ManifunkDestiny, Dreissi, Grammarchist, Lord Windy

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists
Have fun trying to reach me while I'm on a boat patrolling the straits, as is my sworn patriotic duty, nerd

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

Is in this moment that I'm glad I got the command of the submarine fleet.

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Xelkelvos posted:

This is why I suggested Ranked-Choice. FPtP is a terrible system of election.

Election? What election?

Mizanur was Maz's right hand man and handpicked successor with full unequivocal support from the Shura and the populace. It's not like there was ever anyone else who could challenge that type of pedigree, the position was always his from the start.

Clearly.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
It looks like we'll need to purge regressive elements from our armed forces.

Cycloneman
Feb 1, 2009
ASK ME ABOUT
SISTER FUCKING
In real history, there have only been two wars fought between communist states: Vietnam invading Pol Pot's Cambodia, and the PRC invading Vietnam. I leave it up to the reader to determine which one of these we will be.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
We're basically Lavrentiy Beria. And if we're at all lucky, our dear leader will be as much of a psycho rapist killer patsy as the real one.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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gonna lol when we're invaded by both france and morocco while all our soldiers are dying in the balkans for unclear reasons

and by lol i obviously mean fight valiantly in defense of the revolutionary effort, all hail the supreme leader

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

If the choices were realistic for Al Andalus, then choice A or C would have been overturned from a coup by B.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Cycloneman posted:

In real history, there have only been two wars fought between communist states: Vietnam invading Pol Pot's Cambodia, and the PRC invading Vietnam. I leave it up to the reader to determine which one of these we will be.

Well, you also have the Sino-Soviet border conflict, but I dunno if that counts as a proper war. Then again, Pol Pot's Cambodia wasn't really communist either so I think we end up with just the Sino-Vietnamese war in the final tally.

HiHo ChiRho posted:

If the choices were realistic for Al Andalus, then choice A or C would have been overturned from a coup by B.

Eh, Beria got shot in short order after Stalin died, so if that's the comparison we're going with then this doesn't seem likely.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

I meant Al Andalus's history with secret police. It will be glorious either way!

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!

Cerebral Bore posted:

Pol Pot's Cambodia wasn't really communist

Yeah, let's not go down this hole.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.
All this talk of red on red and you bastards skipped Kronstadt

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Dance Officer posted:

Yeah, let's not go down this hole.

I agree, the Morgenthau Plan is a much better ideal to impose on France and Morroco post victory :getin:

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
What I meant to say was "yea, let's not discuss if certain regimes that call themselves communist and are also rather murderous, are actually communist. "

That's a hill I'd rather not see climbed.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Dance Officer posted:

What I meant to say was "yea, let's not discuss if certain regimes that call themselves communist and are also rather murderous, are actually communist. "

That's a hill I'd rather not see climbed.

eh, soviets and mao were clearly communist, modern prc really doesn't seem like it qualifies. cambodia and modern dprk seem more like weird cults, ideologically. one can gnaw on many bones re: specific demarcations, but the basic statement 'pol pot was an agrarianist nutter, not really a communist' doesn't seem too impertinent to the thread

i mean since we're running a soon-to-be basketcase communist regime and all

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

There's still no real way of knowing which way the wind will blow with the German civil war, both Russia and France have reasons to either support or not support one of the German states, and who knows if other great powers or even minor powers will weigh in.

Xelkelvos posted:

This is why I suggested Ranked-Choice. FPtP is a terrible system of election.

You're not going to get more enlightened methods of discerning the public will from an autocratic dictatorship.

V. Illych L. posted:

gonna lol when we're invaded by both france and morocco while all our soldiers are dying in the balkans for unclear reasons

and by lol i obviously mean fight valiantly in defense of the revolutionary effort, all hail the supreme leader

Nonsense.

You all just voted for dying in the Rhine for unclear reasons. The Balkans are united at the center of an aggressively expanding state.

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012
:ohdear:

That is all.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Luhood posted:

:ohdear:

That is all.

Same but :regd08:

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Dance Officer posted:

What I meant to say was "yea, let's not discuss if certain regimes that call themselves communist and are also rather murderous, are actually communist. "

That's a hill I'd rather not see climbed.

This is a good post and good advice.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010

MaxieSatan posted:

Have fun trying to reach me while I'm on a boat patrolling the straits, as is my sworn patriotic duty, nerd


Talas posted:

Is in this moment that I'm glad I got the command of the submarine fleet.

And with me leading the Invincible Armada, is the Iberian Navy the last holdout of Ikrimahism?

Red John
Jul 12, 2018
The Chairman is dead.

Long live the Chairman.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

I'm sure the transition to our new leader will be peaceful and nothing will do wrong at all.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Dance Officer posted:

What I meant to say was "yea, let's not discuss if certain regimes that call themselves communist and are also rather murderous, are actually communist. "

That's a hill I'd rather not see climbed.

Well, there's not much to discuss when it comes to the Pol Pot regime because they clearly failed the most basic possible test, i.e. "Do these people actually subscribe to Marxism?"

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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SlothfulCobra posted:


Nonsense.

You all just voted for dying in the Rhine for unclear reasons. The Balkans are united at the center of an aggressively expanding state.

which the dude we just picked as our supreme leader wants to antagonise, presumably unto the point of invasion because lol they're not just going to submit

punched my v-card at camp
Sep 4, 2008

Broken and smokin' where the infrared deer plunge in the digital snake

V. Illych L. posted:

which the dude we just picked as our supreme leader wants to antagonise, presumably unto the point of invasion because lol they're not just going to submit

Those corrupt faux-revolutionaries cheered the death of our supreme leader. I’d rather our troops perish bringing them to heel instead of fighting a meaningless war for Anatolia on their behalf.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

V. Illych L. posted:

which the dude we just picked as our supreme leader wants to antagonise, presumably unto the point of invasion because lol they're not just going to submit

There wasn't anything in any of Hashim's posts about Minazur antagonizing the Balkan Federation. Is this just something you're just making up?

Theoretically, as another aggressive communist state that doesn't even come close to sharing a border with Al Andalus, there could be a good chance of both of them sharing the same interests, potentially even both supporting socialist Germany. Of course, Papa Russia could probably crush both of them if it decides to.

Grizzwold
Jan 27, 2012

Posters off the pork bow!

SlothfulCobra posted:

There wasn't anything in any of Hashim's posts about Minazur antagonizing the Balkan Federation. Is this just something you're just making up?

Theoretically, as another aggressive communist state that doesn't even come close to sharing a border with Al Andalus, there could be a good chance of both of them sharing the same interests, potentially even both supporting socialist Germany. Of course, Papa Russia could probably crush both of them if it decides to.

One of the focuses in Mizanur branch of the tree posted earlier is "Subjugation of the Balkans" so we are definitely going to be loving with them unless Hashim decides to stop halfway down that path for some reason.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Grizzwold posted:

One of the focuses in Mizanur branch of the tree posted earlier is "Subjugation of the Balkans" so we are definitely going to be loving with them unless Hashim decides to stop halfway down that path for some reason.

this

also each of the leaders had some way of consolidating power. ikrimah had "restore the shura", presumably in some proper Supreme Soviet form, and the propagandist had "The Cult of Maz Mazin". mizanur has "secret police"

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Best case scenario is Italy somehow stays outside France's bloc and we get a free hand of expanding there, also France and Morocco's foci tree lead them to ignore al-Andalus antics. Also we get brownie points with Russia from tag-teaming the Balkans, plus our foreign forces tilt the German and Ibrizi communists to victory, giving us actually good allies against New England and France.

Worst case scenario France and Italy become allies early on and we're done hosed as they and Morocco proceed to tear us to bits while we are invading Mediterranean minors.

Any scenario where we end at war with both France and Morocco without us having control of oil fields will result in our war machine reduced to a crawl as they burn down all our convoys bringing much-needed oil. We might as well go back to horse-drawn tanks.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
Basically speaking our choice of leader has locked us into these decisions due to our focus tree:

-Handing over power to the secret police.

-Annexing the Italian Penninsula

-Annexing the Balkans.

If there is any diplomatic problems with any of the latter two, we are going to be so dead as world war crushes us far ahead of schedule.

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



the other options were

"become traitors and ally with either Morocco or France" which is a non-starter, or be totally loving boring which is even worse.

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NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
I don't see what's boring about forming the grand alliance of socialism to completely dismember France, personally.

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