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echomadman posted:BM posted about being recognised for Bellingcat and how it has its origins in the forums and you jump in with a scold and some retrospective self congratulations about how you were one of the only ones that knew it was bad all along. What was the point of that? I was being honest. That said, it is clear how that statement was completely ignored and in turn was purposefully morphed into something else. As for the images and video, it was excessive not because it showed war but because it was often out a clear point. and AGAIN I am talking about the Libyan War.
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echomadman posted:BM posted about being recognised for Bellingcat and how it has its origins in the forums and you jump in with a scold and some retrospective self congratulations about how you were one of the only ones that knew it was bad all along. What was the point of that? You said it better than I can. Again, I think it was important what BM and other posters were posting here from the beginning. It helped many other posters and me gain a much deeper appreciation of not just the Syrian Civil War, but of the Arab Spring in general and the conflicts that sprung from it. I think they provided a valuable source of information for the thread. Edit: Ardennes, I think you're missing that some people are also referring to the Libyan conflict and not just Syria.
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Ardennes posted:I was being honest. That said, it is clear how that statement was completely ignored and in turn was purposefully morphed into something else. You didn't mention Libya specifically in your original reply to BM, it was just included in your quote of his post, you didn't clarify that till 5 posts later, and it wasn't clear if you were posting as a mod issuing warnings or a participant in the thread, as you also followed up with a vague assertion that there were new strictures in place regarding posting war images/videos. You're getting mad that people misunderstood a relatively obtuse and easily misinterpreted post. Reading back with the knowledge that you literally meant his pictures of Libya at that time and not his posting as a whole it makes more sense, but still feels like an unnecessary effort (much like this post i guess) to get a dig in on our very own CIA-shill and russia-annoyer on his happy day.
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Like far and away the vast majority of the Libya content posted itt was stuff that was in some way newsworthy or otherwise interesting developments. Imo it was later in the syria conflict when this thread took a turn for posting more just outright war porn as well as various posters turning up to uncritically and without context post propaganda from their apparently preferred side
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E:already posted in Eastern Europe thread, ignore
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How can anyone have a smug hate for chair gunner?
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echomadman posted:You didn't mention Libya specifically in your original reply to BM, it was just included in your quote of his post, you didn't clarify that till 5 posts later, and it wasn't clear if you were posting as a mod issuing warnings or a participant in the thread, as you also followed up with a vague assertion that there were new strictures in place regarding posting war images/videos. He mentioned the Libya war specially in his post, including the quoted section. And where did I say there were new restrictions in place? Also, it was a one sentence comment and to be honest BM posts similar things fairly regularly over the years. This is the first time I remember him mentioning the Libya War... which I think it was time to talk about. Also the GBS thread in particular was the one that was pretty out of control, although it leaked into D&D time to time. Btw and I clarified what was going on and posters just ignored it. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Count Roland posted:So Algeria eh. A late Arab Spring? Who knows. So far the demonstrations have been peaceful and in good fun, but the government's attempt at fooling the crowds with a concession that's not a concession ("okay, I won't run for a fifth term; instead I'll just keep extending the current fourth term") failed so the protests are still ongoing.
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Trump recognized Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1108772952814899200
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/21/german-journalist-who-was-held-captive-and-gave-birth-in-syria-speaks-of-her-ordealquote:The journalist Janina Findeisen, who was released with her child in September 2016, has spoken for the first time about the circumstances under which she travelled to a war zone on her own when seven months pregnant, and how she managed to survive the ordeal.
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What a loving dumb bitch. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sinteres posted:Trump recognized Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights: Sure, why not.
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Good news, guys! https://twitter.com/michelekelemen/status/1108858957693702145?s=21
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Darth Walrus posted:Good news, guys! For left wing Jews this poo poo must seem just.... yeeeeeech. Like some huge unwashed neckbeard confessing he wrote some slash fiction about you he'd like to share.
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Grape posted:For left wing Jews this poo poo must seem just.... yeeeeeech. it's super cool, I love hearing some dumpass white christian dude explain to me why I need to go to Israel so Jesus can blow me up and save the REAL people that matters, and how I should be thankful he's working so hard to make that happen.
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Like, do these people ever talk to Jews who aren't sacks of bugs in human suits like Adelson that would be a-ok with going back to pogroms if it meant more arabs and muslims died in them at least? Can you imagine having so little tethering to the real world you say this poo poo to the 90% of American Jews who are normal?
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 No one has a way with words like the Kremlin's diplomats.
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Why do photos of Iranian generals always look like they come from really bizarre Robert Deniro impersonator conventions.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:
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 Press photo from the "Who actually is talking to me?" panel discussion.
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sexpig by night posted:Like, do these people ever talk to Jews who aren't sacks of bugs in human suits like Adelson that would be a-ok with going back to pogroms if it meant more arabs and muslims died in them at least? Can you imagine having so little tethering to the real world you say this poo poo to the 90% of American Jews who are normal? They've probably had Likud functionaries give a guest sermon at their church in which they asked for alms to fund Israeli settlement construction and then tried to sell them two week Holy Land religions vacations
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Grape posted:Why do photos of Iranian generals always look like they come from really bizarre Robert Deniro impersonator conventions. Iranian fashion and hair styles for the last 10-20 years are basically entirely indistinguishable from european/american fashion in the last 20 years. The real question is probably why young american hipster beards look so much like 1980s revolutionaries
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Herstory Begins Now posted:
Hides the double-chin.
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alot of people in the middle east are getting a big morale boost from what's going on in Algeria and Sudan, he'res hoping the algerians manage to find a good way forward and here's hoping the algerian regime concedes the massive reforms needed to move the country forward. Unfortunately, with bashir it's more complicated, he has a big lack of trust gap and he doesnt seem smart enough to realize he needs to go, the other problem is that he thinks the second he steps down he'll be tried by the ICC, so the Sudanese opposition need to give him an off ramp by offering incentives like Immunity from prosecution or whatever.
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good to see you around, genuinely
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That was the first thing I thought too.
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i say swears online posted:good to see you around, genuinely lol I'm fine thanks for asking, I just took a long break to focus on my life and other interests more, glad i did and now things are better. I'll still pop in here and there.
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Glad you're doing ok, Al-Saqr.
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SDF officially declared 100% territorial defeat over ISIS: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-47678157 https://twitter.com/mustefabali/status/1109338396256813056?s=20 quote:Syrian Democratic Forces declare total elimination of so-called caliphate and %100 territorial defeat of ISIS. On this unique day, we commemorate thousands of martyrs whose efforts made the victory possible. SDF General Dir Mazloum Kobani gave a speech at al-Omar Oil Field, US State Dept. adviser William Robak was in attendance: https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1109403987374211073 quote:New: Band at al-Omar Oil Field, #Syria playing the US national anthem prior to the announcement by #SDF officials of the victory over #ISIS in #Baghuz & end of the terror group's self-declared caliphate  Summary of the tweet chain: quote:Ceremonies for the official #SDF victory announcement over the ISIS caliphate now underway at al Omar oil field in Syria. Celebrations and parades in various places all over SDF territory, and also in Sheikh Maqsood: https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/b541mk/sdf_victory_parade_in_raqqa_city/ https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/b4qahy/ypg_and_ypj_fighters_join_hundreds_of_aleppo/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6QnkWywQYk And yes Sheikh Maqsood is still administered by the YPG. The regime is apparently dealing with more important matters, like renovating a loving statue of Hafez al-Assad. Priorities. SDF also seized a huge loving cache of weapons in Baghuz, since ISIS couldn't exactly take it anywhere else: https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/b45xb6/the_sdf_has_seized_a_huge_cache_of_weapons_in/ https://twitter.com/hiwadilan3/status/1109194214573854720?s=21 Yeah holy poo poo that's a lot of weapons.  And if you're wondering what's going to happen to those weapons: quote:Orbitalc0s:
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thanks for this post. been following this thread since its Arab Spring incarnation, and have always appreciated the overall quality of posting here. whilst there's still so much left to do, this atleast gives me some shimmer of hope for the Sham region. before something is bound to inevitably crush this, as history's proven again and again.  so far Dutch media is remarkably quiet on this. then again, they're very well at pretending Yemen doesn't exist either. I guess we tend to care only if it concerns whether this influences the influx of refugees.
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Also yeah, really glad to see you're doing okay Al Saqr. I can definitely understand taking some time for yourself and getting away from the constant misery of following this stuff, I've essentially done the same thing. It's interesting how things have reached a sort of semi-stability in Syria, or at least progressed towards something like a frozen conflict. The battle lines haven't really shifted all that much recently; the regime controls a majority of the country and there's no more rebel pockets like East Ghouta/Rastan, etc, Idlib remains a rebel stronghold (although Nusra/HTS have stamped out just about anything that you could still call a "revolution"), the TFSA still holds Afrin and the Mare-Al Bab-Jarablus area, and the SDF still holds Manbij, Tabqa and just about everything east of the Euphrates. Oh, and there's Al Tanf, which... exists.
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+1 for the thanks Saladin Rising. I've enjoyed reading your posts in this thread for years at this stage. They're always informative and interesting.
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Count me as someone else glad you're literally still alive Al-Saqr.
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Blut posted:+1 for the thanks Saladin Rising. I've enjoyed reading your posts in this thread for years at this stage. They're always informative and interesting. I think the one of the sadder things from 2016 onward was watching Nusra/HTS slowly crush all of the remaining revolutionary spirit that was left, and turn Idlib and the Aleppo countryside into a Salafist emirate. I used to support the FSA, and had hoped they and the YPG could work together (like they did in Kobani) and hammer out some kind of continued agreement. There's a few former FSA groups in the SDF, but most of the former FSA groups in Northern Syria are either dead, disbanded, fled the country, or are under Turkey's or Nusra's thumb. Assad didn't even have to finish off the revolution, he and the regime just used Idlib as a rebel dumping ground and let the most hardline factions squash everyone else. It's so sad.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...df52_story.htmlquote:Many thousands of men who fought on the front lines for years are returning home without hope of finding jobs. The wartime economy has fueled corruption on an unprecedented scale, compounding the daily challenge of queuing for long hours to secure basic necessities with the indignity of having to pay multiple bribes to layers of officialdom, according to Damascus residents.
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