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quote:I appreciate how much this actually looks like Montmartre, down to things like the stair railing. This is probably supposed to be the Anvers station, which did exist at the time and does run right over to the Champs-Elysees, although the specific view here isn't accurate.
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Kanfy posted:Shadow Hearts: Covenant is a very good game, and also remarkably horny in several different ways. The fact that the front cover (on the US version at least; I'm not sure about Japan) is just a gigantic portrait of Karin -- with Yuri nowhere to be seen -- is clearly an appeal to get horny teenage boys to buy the game.
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...! posted:The fact that the front cover (on the US version at least; I'm not sure about Japan) is just a gigantic portrait of Karin -- with Yuri nowhere to be seen -- is clearly an appeal to get horny teenage boys to buy the game.
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For the record, Seton's bill would be about $14,301.80 in today's dollars, so that's a huge chunk of change. Fate/Grand Order also recently put out a singularity that involves a far more famous wolf Seton is associated with
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Robindaybird posted:For the record, Seton's bill would be about $14,301.80 in today's dollars, so that's a huge chunk of change. Was wondering what the inflation was but too lazy to look it up so thank you industrious internet friend.
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Tulul posted:I appreciate how much this actually looks like Montmartre, down to things like the stair railing. This is probably supposed to be the Anvers station, which did exist at the time and does run right over to the Champs-Elysees, although the specific view here isn't accurate.  On the whole the game is pretty okay with places that are approximate likenesses of the real locations they're based on. One hard-to-see anachronism is a poster advertising the 1900 Exposition Universelle - but this game is like  what's another anachronism on top of the mountain we already have. Also talking-wolf bouts.I only bring that particular one up, because a hypothetical Koudelka 2 was going to be set at L'Exposition Universelle and feature a little trek through the early Métro and other parts of Paris.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Am I misremembering, or wasn't the hypothetical Koudelka 2 going to star her son? Was that supposed to be Halley's game? Hypothetical K2 was Koudelka going through Paris, two years after the events of the first Koudelka. Hypothetical K3 was going to star her grandson (from her daughter) in 1970s Chicago. And Hypothetical K4 would again be her grandson in the early 80s in Japan. These were just ideas mulling around the devs heads should the game be a success - as we know it wasn't, and Shadow Hearts became the weird spin-off sequel thing instead.
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The closest thing we have to a Koudelka 2 is the manga, which Shadow Hearts retcons, though most likely still took some ideas from.
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It's kind of a shame the series became a wacky anime at this point. It's not bad for what it is, the jokes land a lot better than they did in any other lighthearted JRPG I remember playing, but it is a lot more common genre than the gothic horror feel Koudelka and Shadow Hearts had. At least in a story driven ensemble cast type of a game.
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I'd still say Covenant's and FTNW's comedy is still unique to the series when it comes to games, especially when it comes to their love of kooky alt-history stuff.
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BioMe posted:It's kind of a shame the series became a wacky anime at this point. It's not bad for what it is, the jokes land a lot better than they did in any other lighthearted JRPG I remember playing, but it is a lot more common genre than the gothic horror feel Koudelka and Shadow Hearts had. At least in a story driven ensemble cast type of a game. Yeah, Koudelka's actual story still stands out as a really strong character driven gothic horror story. It's such a shame about the gameplay.
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Night10194 posted:Yeah, Koudelka's actual story still stands out as a really strong character driven gothic horror story. It's such a shame about the gameplay. The voice acting was also great.
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Taro Yoko seems to be the new go-to guy for grimdark stuff, so hopefully one of these days he'll do a Gothic/real world based kind of story.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:The voice acting was also great. as is the scene direction (I loved the little annoyed footstomp Koudelka has after realizing the door is stuck), just yeah the gameplay is absolutely dogshit
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:The voice acting was also great. Yeah, I that game was something else there, especially for a PS1 one. I don't know much about acting or direction, but it kind of felt like the actors were let play off each other and improvise parts of the dialogue. If I don't completely misremember the game I noted it in, there were a few parts where the characters talked over each other slightly. Which is not really something you often get even in movies unless it's exaggerated to emphasize a chaotic scene. Maybe that's even seen as a bit amateurish in some circles, since script dialog and natural dialog are two completely different things, and it'd be hard to listen to characters cutting off each other to the degree real people do. I don't think it had that effect though, just a couple natural sounding exchanges where you'd normally expect a much more theatrical pace to the line reads. Especially in a video game where voice actors usually aren't even in the same room when they record. Also every game needs a fully voice acted drunk scene, I cannot think of a single one that wasn't amazing.
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Shitenshi posted:Taro Yoko seems to be the new go-to guy for grimdark stuff, so hopefully one of these days he'll do a Gothic/real world based kind of story. Yoko Taro directing a Shadow Hearts IV would be incredible.
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IMJack posted:Only the beginning, my friend. Only the beginning. Understatement of the Century.
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BioMe posted:Yeah, I that game was something else there, especially for a PS1 one. I don't know much about acting or direction, but it kind of felt like the actors were let play off each other and improvise parts of the dialogue. If I don't completely misremember the game I noted it in, there were a few parts where the characters talked over each other slightly. Which is not really something you often get even in movies unless it's exaggerated to emphasize a chaotic scene. Maybe that's even seen as a bit amateurish in some circles, since script dialog and natural dialog are two completely different things, and it'd be hard to listen to characters cutting off each other to the degree real people do. I don't think it had that effect though, just a couple natural sounding exchanges where you'd normally expect a much more theatrical pace to the line reads. Especially in a video game where voice actors usually aren't even in the same room when they record. They were mostly local stage actors based in LA, and from what I understand, even though Kikuta wrote the script in Japanese, he did the sensible thing of leaving the direction to a native English speaker (who could speak and liase with him in Japanese), and actually recorded all the dialogue live (excepting any pickups), with all the actors in mocap suits actually acting the scenes together. It really does add a lot to scenes - captures some of the energy from actual people acting these things out together, and not stuck in a booth. It's genuinely shocking to compare it to RE1, and listen to these stilted, strangely intoned conversations, because they were given bad direction from a non-native speaker and trying to figure out all this fancy new tech with loadtimes. That drunk scene is still so loving good. That actress just sells it, and the captured body movements gives it this great fluidity. It's just so good. But yeah, shame the gameplay is mostly tedious garbage. And even in this game, as good as it is, the voice acting and mocap stuff never really captures the same feeling of energy, as in Koudelka. IMO, anyway. This game is still my favourite of the series to play though.
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There are parts of the story in SH:C that work very well, but yeah, it's not gothic horror, and it's not either of its predecessors. On the other hand, the gameplay is just so much better that I can forgive it.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:Yoko Taro directing a Shadow Hearts IV would be incredible. There'd have to be a Shadow Hearts 3 first. 
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...! posted:There'd have to be a Shadow Hearts 3 first. This is a quiet reminder that one of the early proposals for Drakenguard 3 was for it to be Drakenguard 4 and the plot would involve searching for the lost game. (yes, I got  )
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It's much the same as there not being a Star Control 3. I really, really want a third game in that series. But I guess it would be under the franchise's new name: The Ur-Quan Masters.
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...! posted:There'd have to be a Shadow Hearts 3 first. There was; it was called From the New World. 
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Shitenshi posted:Taro Yoko seems to be the new go-to guy for grimdark stuff, so hopefully one of these days he'll do a Gothic/real world based kind of story. A  led Koudelka reboot is something I never thought I needed but now have to have. 
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Episode XIII: Dear, My Dressmaker Music: Town of Twilight ~ European Town .jpg) Yuri seems surprisingly OK with riding trains considering his last few experiences on them were having his arm cut off, getting beaten up by a wizard and having his girlfriend drop dead. .jpg) So... I think we found our way into the secret paths of the tunnels. Unfortunately, Victor the Foreman is blocking all entry into the under construction area at the moment. Since that is the job of a construction site foreman, right? Security guard well away from where the actual construction is taking place. .jpg) Oh well. I'm sure we'll be back there later. For now, let's go above ground to the scenic avenue of Champs-Élysées. .jpg) .jpg) Before we head any further, there is a new Add-On Effect item for Ring Customization just discarded behind the metro entrance. Who would leave a perfectly good regretful slime lump like this behind? Disgraceful. .jpg) As we venture further into the area, we're stopped by these two... colorful gentlemen. I hope you're ready for some cringey dated gay stereotypes! I'd like to say this is the product of being from the mid-aughts and all. But Persona 5 only came out two years ago and had something exactly like this pair. It was probably actually way worse there. NEW Music: Dear, My Dressmaker ~ The Tailor .jpg)  Oh, we certainly have!! You quit the theater so suddenly. We had no idea where you'd run off to, naughty boy! <looks at Gepetto> Umm, wh-who are these guys?! The Magimel Brothers. Pierre here is a tailor, and Gerard runs an item shop. They're my old theater associates. They used to sell me costumes and supplies to use on stage.Gerard saunters up to Yuri. .jpg)  Y-Yikes... Hey! Don't start scaring off my friends! Well, I never! ...But, anyway, now that we've all become such good friends, let me give you a fabulous present! Here you are..jpg) .jpg) Remember the Discount Cards system in the original Shadow Hearts? Well, that's been replaced by a Point Card system (and only the one card) in Covenant. We'll get into that more after we finish introductions with the Magimel Brothers. .jpg) That? That's a very, very special card you can use at any shop at all! If you have one of those, you can build up points whenever you go shopping. Those points really add up! And the more points you collect, the bigger the discount you can get. Isn't that just fabulous? G-gee... Th-thanks... Hey... what about this Eternity Card I had? I was getting like 50% discounts in shops before. It was great. Can I still use that? I'm afraid those old discount cards expired back at the end of 1914. Everything I loved died that year...Gerard saunters back to his shop cart. .jpg)  Tee hee. Of course I haven't! And what about you, Gep? You haven't forgotten that little "item" I asked you for, Have you? Did you bring it? Of course! Let's see... Where did I put it? Ah, yes! This wasn't easy to get ahold of, you know. Just for that, I'll now sew you a fabulous dress. Just pick the design you want, all right?.jpg) We are now given the option of choosing a dress for Gepetto's doll, Cornelia. The first one is "free" since we automatically were given that Stud Card back at Gepetto's Apartment. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) There is a variety of dress option for Cornelia. One for each element, in fact. Not really a big fan of several of these being put on what looks like a kindergartener modeled doll. But, that's just how Shadow Hearts 2 is gonna roll, for better or worse. If you cannot guess, this is Gepetto's unique ability sidequest. But moreover, these dresses will actually change Gepetto's elemental affinity on top of providing him with an additional technique. Since we do not have anyone filling out the Water elemental niche at the moment and there may be an upcoming fight that could use someone with Water-based abilities, we're going to be going with the Water element's dress design. Water. .jpg) Perfect colors for summer! The cuffs and neckerchief are a cute and "girly" touch. The waist can be cinched however you like. Mmm! *drool* Simply fabulous! I'm in the mood, now! Just a moment while I whip you up a cute little number.Music: ENDS. Drumroll begins. .jpg) Presenting the latest creation from my 1915 Pierre Magimel Collection! I call it....jpg) Thanks. I hate it. .jpg) That's Pierre's genius for you. His dresses certainly bring out Cornelia's beauty! Somehow this has all managed to get even creepier... Awroo... You philistines don't know anything about fashion. Yeah not chomping at the bits to get into toddler dress trends. And not just outer beauty alone. Every time a young lady changes dresses, new possibilities blossom, you know! Now, then, Gep. Why don't you get little Cornelia changed? Oh, isn't this just too exciting, people?!.jpg) Dresses can now be changed from Gepetto's character menu. They're not like Yuri's Fusions where they can be swapped out at will. Whatever Cornelia is wearing into battle is what Gepetto is using for the duration of a fight. Additionally, they don't provide any stat boosts or anything other than a buff to Offense/Defense for their elemental class. Also, each dress grants a unique Marionette ability while equipped. Sassy Sailor gives Gepetto Aqua Cast which is a 20 MP Water damage magic attack that hits for a decent amount of damage. Music: Town of Twilight ~ European Town .jpg) Fabulous! Did you bring me what I want, then? My hot little heart's desire? Nope. Not my department. What? You don't have on?! How do you expect me to get my creative juices flowing! Come back when you have one!Anyway. That's Gepetto's game spanning sidequest -- collecting burly men porn trading cards to exchange for elemental magic imbued dresses for his creepy rear end little girl doll. Sure, why not? .jpg) .jpg) Pierre handles the dressmaking. Gerard here meanwhile provides the first shop in Shadow Hearts: Covenant -- La Cage Aux Songes. All shops get unique names, as they did in the first game, but they skimped out on giving them an artwork background. So we're just left with a sterile menu screen. It's one of those things you wouldn't really notice if you didn't just spend like seven months talking about the previous game on a regular basis... .jpg) .jpg) We're not exactly rolling in cash at the moment but this shop does have a variety of new goods for the party. We'll just take a look at all the new items for sale at the moment. We're not necessarily going to be buying them all. .jpg) We haven't hit any yet but the Judgment Ring itself has its own share of status ailments it can be inflicted with that are present in the game. This item cancels out those effects. This item is extremely cheap and Ring Anomalies are really annoying, so we'll grab a couple of these for the road since it'll be a while before accessories warding off that kind of crap become available. .jpg) Oh, well if it's made of <Darksteel> then you know it's good. Yuri got a real taste for stab-punching with his equipment by the end of Shadow Hearts 1 and that trend continues into the sequel. This gives him +22 Physical and +18 Special Attack (the default gloves are +11 and +9 respectively.) We'll grab this for Yuri since he is doing a lot of hitting things in the face at this point in the game. .jpg) Don't try using this poo poo on Pinocchio. He'd hate it! This one is a +18 Physical and +22 Special Attack boost (versus the default strings' +9 and +11.) This too will be getting a purchase. .jpg) So is Yuri sanding down Blanca's nails? Is Blanca doing it himself? Do we really want to know the answer? Either way, this provides +19 Physical and +21 Special Attack (+9 and +11 were the default brush's stats.) .jpg) There is also a female-only set of armor for Karin with the Cotton Blouse. It provides +9 Physical and Special Defense. But the Officer's Coat (which Karin is still technically equipped as an armor despite her costume change) has +10 Physical and +8 Special Attack so... we can pass on this for the moment. .jpg) Lastly, there is an accessory that prevents the Poison status effect. This would be pretty useful... except for the 2770 Cash price tag. That's 75% of our current funds. Even with a discount, that's a bit too pricey at the moment. .jpg) Speaking of discounts, the store discount system from Shadow Hearts 1 has returned. Upon checking out from the store we can vie for a reduced price on our purchase by successfully completing a Judgment wheel spin. .jpg) .jpg) Right now we can only try for a 10% Discount (and 5% Mark-Up when selling.) Successful transactions will also result in Points being added to our card. Eventually, we'll get enough points to Rank Up our Point Card level and unlock additional discounts (with additional Judgment Ring spins to obtain them. The rankings are:
Anyway, as far as the LP is concerned you don't need to worry about that system since that'll mostly be on my end. But it's there. .jpg) In any case, now that we're done with our transactions with the Magimel Brothers, we're free to chat up with folks in the city. I really thought this rotund mini-Kingpin was gonna start something that at some point in that previous scene since he's just glaring daggers in our direction the whole time. But no. He's just a rich shithead with little of note. .jpg) A wizard blew up Shanghai two years ago and a space god nearly destroyed the world last year. Hmph. But they didn't do it near me..jpg)  Napoleon had it built, but he never passed under it during his lifetime. Bet you didn't know that, did you? Don't even know what a Napoleon is..jpg) You may think that's a usable door next to the very French Chef named Mitsuboshi. But you'd be wrong. It just gives a locked door prompt. .jpg)  (Short-tempered Emmanuelle) Stop that! Don't go touching it with your filthy hands! What if you scratch it or something?!.jpg) Feels kinda mid-aughts console cycle brown to me. The game had been fairly colorful up until now. What would you know, vagrant? Muted browns are the next generation of graphics. We just need some more bloom in here to liven up the place. Barf. Hard pass..jpg)  And then this huge, spiky man came up to me and said he was sorry. Hmph! Adults should know how to behave in public! How huge we talking? Like body builder bulky or cartoonishly thick? The latter. He needs to pick better friends. Hmm....jpg) At the end of the street, we find our destination. It's the only door we can open here so it better be. .jpg) Nice hotel lobby. First things first, time to grab some free guest concessions. .jpg) Namely, another Magic Crest. The Haures Crest provides Red Rave -- 16 MP Fire Class Special Damage, small circular single hit area. I was hoping for some bagels. But I guess this will do. .jpg) Is it cool if we run around bugging people until we find the guest we want? I am not being paid enough to see a reason why not..jpg) Do you think all patrons need to provide Stud Cards to get dresses from the Magimel Brothers or is Gepetto just a special case? .jpg) He goes by Nick, Out of the Shower 98% of the day and everyone is very concerned why that is so. .jpg) Anyway, the next room over has Subway Expert, Dr. Gautier. Locks weren't invented on hotel doors yet in 1915 so we are free to barge right in and pester him, as was the tradition of the era. .jpg) .jpg)  What brings you to visit? This was the last thing I expected! I'm very pleased. Very pleased! Sheesh. Do you know everyone in this city? I'm sorry *SOME* of manage to be popular and well regarded. We can't all be anti-social hobos like yourself. Tch. Whatever... We're looking for a way through the subway tunnels out toward Le Havre, and we thought maybe you could help. Toward Le Havre, you say? Yes. Do you know a way? Hmm... Let's see. Just give me a minute to think, here...Dr. Gautier walks to the window and considers the question. .jpg) They went wild and dug tunnels all over Paris, but they didn't end up using all of them. And if I remember correctly, one of those unused tunnels heads northwest. Wow, is the subway tunnel system really all that big?Gautier walks back to the group. .jpg) You go down into Champs Élysées station and go right, and that'll bring you to the abandoned tunnel to Le Havre. So we already passed right by the way we needed to go. Of course... Hey, we wouldn't have known that until we asked. <shakes head> I can see this is your first adventure. I mean it was the only other way out of this area. Of COURSE, that was gonna be the way we needed to go. ...I don't think I follow. <shrugs> You'll get used to this kinda thing. Go right, eh? Got it! Thank you, Dr. Gautier. You've really been a huge help! <shakes head> I'm certainly glad to hear it. I've always been an ardent fan of yours, you know, Gepetto. ...But why do you want to leave Paris by way of the tunnels, anyway?.jpg) Oh, I see... Yes, the economy's been so bad since the war started. Things are hard everywhere... <rubs neck> Yeah... the war... of course... Listen, don't you worry about a thing! My right-hand man is the site foreman down at Champs Élysées station. I'll send a message down to him to let you into the restricted area. That's very kind of you! Thank you very much, Doctor. If you ever come back to Paris, promise me you'll go back to the stage. I'll bring my grandchildren to see you!With that, our time in Champs Élysées is pretty much concluded. Let's head back down to the subway again. However, on the way, one new NPC has spawned in the streets... b.jpg)  Is there some kind of parade or costume contest going on today? But the weirdest thing was they were all lined up in a row, sitting politely and quietly. What was with those guys?.jpg) Meh. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. Back to the subway we go. Dr. Gautier has psychically transmitted instructions to Victor the Foreman instantaneously. And so... .jpg)  <moves out the way> The tunnels are pretty vast. Be careful not to get lost. Yeah, yeah... Tunnel maze dungeon. Got it..jpg) Sure enough, off we go to the next dungeon. As soon as we leave the station, we get one final scene on the platform... Music: In Darkness of a Labyrinth ~ Dungeon .jpg)  But when is the Holy Mistletoe gonna kick in, I wonder? The drat little punk looks perfectly fine to me.One of the Clawed Soldiers scoots in front of Lenny. .jpg) What kind of way is that to do things? All he needs is one good punch!.jpg) <pounds fist and punches the air>    Yii!!.jpg) What?! Is that drat woman here too?! <nods> Yes, sir. She said it would be the perfect way to kill some time... <sags shoulders> *sigh* drat that S&M broad. <rubs chin> Oh, well. They've got that weird puppet guy on their side. We might as well have a magic lady warrior, I guess. Looks like ol' Nicolai is desperate..jpg) Wouldn't want to accidentally cause a boss rush. That kinda mess is just drat rude...   Gepetto and Cornelia Official Art - Please put some clothes on that ceramic golem. You're gonna get the party thrown in jail. (The artbook version of this illustration has nipples drawn on the doll.) The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Mar 21, 2019 |
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Accordion Man posted:The stuff in Persona 5 is actually a lot worse than the Magimel Brothers, because the Magimel Brothers aren't portrayed as child rapists as a "joke". Agreed; they're also a step up from the previous game, which featured a gay acupuncturist who was implied to be molesting your male party members (one of whom was a preteen boy) while upgrading your ability to use your weapons. Compared to that, offering to sew magical dresses for creepy dolls in exchange for gay porn trading cards is kinda weird but ultimately harmless in the grand scheme of things.
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This exchange is so good. I love how self-aware Lenny is - you wouldn't expect it from a guy looking like that, but he seems to understand his lot in life as a recurring boss fight.
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Kurtofan posted:japan why You think that's bad? In the Directors Cut of the game, which is Japan only if I remember right, one of the outfits is basically as she appears in that exact image. And the Stud on the Card for it is of one person we all know and hate VERY well
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The Persona 5 stuff is significantly worse. The Magimel brothers may be stereotypes, but at least they're actual characters (and portrayed as pretty nice guys with useful skills) and not just an excuse to do child rape jokes. For the sake of my own sanity I'm just going to go ahead and assume that Cornelia is a small doll modeled after an adult woman. Actually, is she modeled after Gepetto's late wife? Is she inhabited by his late wife's ghost? That would be kind of sweet, in a super creepy way.
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W.T. Fits posted:Agreed; they're also a step up from the previous game, which featured a gay acupuncturist who was implied to be molesting your male party members (one of whom was a preteen boy) while upgrading your ability to use your weapons. The Penny Arcade comic about this sidequest is one of the few times I laughed at it.
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Ubiquitous_ posted:The Penny Arcade comic about this sidequest is one of the few times I laughed at it. This is one of the very few occasions where we can post a Penny Arcade strip as something other than an example of everything that's wrong with the world. 
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BioMe posted:I'm still yet to be even mildly amused by a single Penny Arcade no matter how many times goons post a strip that's supposed the one time they absolutely hit comedy gold I used to find most of their stuff funny. For the last few years I've still had it bookmarked, but 90% of their comics just seem to not have a punchline and it's... weird?
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