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ChairmanGoesWoof posted:What the gently caress, that's just piling meat from the grayest elephant's leg I've ever seen on a frozen pizza margherita straight from Aldi. I like a good Turkish pizza and that ain't it. Full Swexit now. I'm a Swede and I got some serious craving for kebab pizza after seeing that gif. So much that I'm almost considering binning the lunch box I brought to work. That said, as an outsider, is it strange that I'm feeling a much more primitive gut feeling of repulsion when hearing Andrea Leadsome speak? I mean Theresa May, Boris, JRM, Arlene Foster etc are all bad characters in their own ways, but from closely following Brexit the last two years I still can barely stand to not skip her replies in parliament. And I can't even put a finger on exactly why she stands out like that in such a splendid rogues gallery.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Ugh, just had to sit through a manager having a normal one about homeless people, and how lucrative begging is (£40 an hour? Sure Put an anonymous tip in to the head office (if there is one) about the manager's offensive views (do not specify what they are at this point) and unprofessional behaviour at work. Emphasise that the working environment is becoming uncomfortable and that staff (i.e. you) are becoming distressed. Basically, keep things vague enough so they assume the worst about what he/she's views are.
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uXs posted:As far as I see the most important issue with brexit is the Irish border, for which there are only a few possibilities. 1) Causes the troubles to restart. People die. 2) Splits the UK into single market/not single market. Think about how hosed up things will get. Northern Ireland will essentially be its own country and much closer to being part of Ireland than the UK. Good for Ireland maybe, not sure it's good for the rest of us and if I can be a bit selfish I think we can unite Ireland without the UK having to be economically destroyed. 3) Yeah.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Ugh, just had to sit through a manager having a normal one about homeless people, and how lucrative begging is (£40 an hour? Sure A Swedish survey among Rumanian beggars I read a few years ago put the figure at around 50-70 Euros a day which I can accept.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Ugh, just had to sit through a manager having a normal one about homeless people, and how lucrative begging is (£40 an hour? Sure This is when I ask "if they get paid so well then why are you doing this poo poo job instead of begging?" and end up back on the dole.
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This interesting times helldimension does at least allow for good pacing in this arc of things, last season just dragged onRenaissance Robot posted:Ugh, just had to sit through a manager having a normal one about homeless people, and how lucrative begging is (£40 an hour? Sure They didn't get those thoughts from logic and fact, they got them through a lifetime of drip fed stories through outlets deemed socially respectable to their peers and largely beyond any question because they read it in the papers. It gets repeated to them by their peers and becomes their self reinforcing reality. You aren't going to shift that mindset with any rhetorical device, set of figures or link that can be shared on facebook. You can try it, and they might even nod along at the time, and then be back on that bullshit a week later.
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Abel Wingnut posted:what in the hell is this so24 business? https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/business/debates/application-for-emergency-debates/ explains what it is But basically it'll be a debate pushed by the backbenches trying to take control of Brexit away from the government.
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You know it's pretty telling there are restraurants put on fire on the Champs Elysées and Macron threatening to declare all protestors as rioters and yet i don't feel as bad or anxious as a Frenchman as i feel for the people on the other side of the Channel. What an omnishambles.
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ChairmanGoesWoof posted:What the gently caress, that's just piling meat from the grayest elephant's leg I've ever seen on a frozen pizza margherita straight from Aldi. I like a good Turkish pizza and that ain't it. Full Swexit now. The pizza was baked on site and not form Aldi. And this is a glorious fusion of two cultures.
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Toplowtech posted:You know it's pretty telling there are restraurants put on fire on the Champs Elysées and Macron threatening to declare all protestors as rioters and yet i don't feel as bad or anxious as a Frenchman as i feel for the people on the other side of the Channel. What an omnishambles. The cops are responsible for that restaurant fire lol
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Abel Wingnut posted:what in the hell is this so24 business? Emergency debate motion: quote:24.—
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Toplowtech posted:You know it's pretty telling there are restraurants put on fire on the Champs Elysées and Macron threatening to declare all protestors as rioters and yet i don't feel as bad or anxious as a Frenchman as i feel for the people on the other side of the Channel. What an omnishambles. The problem is that the French have a long history of standing up to governments doing the dirty on them and we really really don't. Y'all looked at beheading lots of people & thought "this is useful because it scares the people in charge", we looked at bedding one King and decided it was too much, too quick. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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V. Illych L. posted:if it were that lucrative surely more peoe would do it Put together a PowerPoint making the business case for hiring teenagers at minimum wage as urban financial recipients. £40 pounds an hour, 60 begging hours in a week, 10 franchises per city, pretty soon it adds up to real money.
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Sanford posted:Through personal experience mate, just don't. Challenging stuff like that at work has definitely done me a lot more personal harm than it's achieved generic good. No-one's mind was changed. pick your battles, ask yourself “what do I want to result from this argument” and if the answer isn’t “to get fired actively or indirectly” this is not a fight you will win Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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radmonger posted:Put together a PowerPoint making the business case for hiring teenagers at minimum wage as urban financial recipients. £40 pounds an hour, 60 begging hours in a week, 10 franchises per city, pretty soon it adds up to real money. You can make points effectively without getting combative and argumentative if you enthusiastically drive it forward to its logical conclusion. Maybe not full powerpoint presentation, but at least "is that something that we can monetize?"
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How long between No Deal Brexit and British retirees living abroad in the EU being rounded up and forced back to Hell Island?
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Lord_Hambrose posted:How long between No Deal Brexit and British retirees living abroad in the EU being rounded up and forced back to Hell Island?
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Lord_Hambrose posted:How long between No Deal Brexit and British retirees living abroad in the EU being rounded up and forced back to Hell Island? It's going to be a tricky situation for sure, we should probably construct a Nauru style holding camp for them until we can work out what to do.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:
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Lord_Hambrose posted:How long between No Deal Brexit and British retirees living abroad in the EU being rounded up and forced back to Hell Island? Nobody knows. You think people have actually thought this through? The more worrying question is how long between no deal brexit and 3 million working EU citizens including quite a lot who are functionally british but whose parents never bothered gertting them a brit passport (or for whom getting a brit passport woudl have meant not being able to get their EU country one) are deported? Including a decent proportion of our medcal professionals...
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Sanford posted:Through personal experience mate, just don't. Challenging stuff like that at work has definitely done me a lot more personal harm than it's achieved generic good. No-one's mind was changed. You do you, but I'm not prepared to give up on this. I've been doing a Facebook fundraiser for a homeless charity for my birthday and recent events caused me to put together an effortpost because few people have the first clue what it's like. I've just got bits from stopping to chat with a few. I'm just going to copy it in because it was difficult enough to write the first time. My mental health took a blow because of it, but sharing is cathartic. Facebook effortpost posted:Rough sleepers and beggars have an unbelievably awful time.
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DesperateDan posted:They didn't get those thoughts from logic and fact, they got them through a lifetime of drip fed stories through outlets deemed socially respectable to their peers and largely beyond any question because they read it in the papers. It gets repeated to them by their peers and becomes their self reinforcing reality. A specific TV show, in this case. 60 Days on the Street or something? Which I haven't seen but sounds a lot like heavily editorialised bollocks designed to reinforce these views in the name of good television. Thankfully she's not my direct manager, we just share an office (and I already didn't like her because she's got that sensible tory voter feel). Necrothatcher posted:Put an anonymous tip in to the head office (if there is one) about the manager's offensive views (do not specify what they are at this point) and unprofessional behaviour at work. Emphasise that the working environment is becoming uncomfortable and that staff (i.e. you) are becoming distressed. If it was a habit I might, but I've been here almost a year and this is the first time it's come up. I had some backup from another member of staff too, and most of everyone else here is decently lefty, so I'm not feeling exceptionally put upon.
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V. Illych L. posted:imo it is cowardly to not at least be a little snide when people say obviously unreasonable and reactionary thingd I've got a personnel folder full of written warnings, recorded discussions and perfectly good reviews that didn't lead to a payrise, all of which agrees with you. It's not worth it. Pick your battles. Don't be me.
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Thats following this. Ben Shapiro is also a massive transphobe unsurprisingly https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1107763015917731840
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thespaceinvader posted:Nobody knows. You think people have actually thought this through? Just the announcement of Brexit caused nursing staff to stop emigrating to the UK. I hope losing 10 percent of your doctors (for racists, the good ones) won't outweigh the pride of returning to the old days of Empire.
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Regarde Aduck posted:1) Causes the troubles to restart. People die. It was sort of a rethorical question to begin with. The reason they don't put it as starkly as this is because 1 (NDB) is terrible and possibly illegal or even treason (and will make everyone who votes for it a target for the IRA), 2 (Sea border) is basically making NI independent and that's, um, I have no idea what would happen, maybe Unionist violence?, so 3 is really the only sensible option. At least some hard-line brexiteers must realise this and are just running down the clock to arrive at option 1 (NDB) by default without actually having to explicitly vote for it. What is weird is how no remainers are putting this out there, or if they do, why are they not yelling this more loudly.
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Sakurazuka posted:What's a good homeless people charity to give money to? Shelter and Crisis are both very good, and just about every city and town has its own charity for local homeless people these days. You're depressingly spoiled for choice.
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namesake posted:That's the most passive aggressively combative suggestion I've ever seen to dealing with this issue, what are you talking about? Sakurazuka posted:What's a good homeless people charity to give money to?
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Sakurazuka posted:What's a good homeless people charity to give money to? Ideally a small local one. The money goes further than it does at national ones. Shelter are ok for helping people with their tenants rights to not end up homeless, but if it's too late for that, according to friends who have been homeless, they're pretty poo poo. Coffee4craig and Mustard Tree are the two in Manchester that have been recommended to me.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Ugh, just had to sit through a manager having a normal one about homeless people, and how lucrative begging is (£40 an hour? Sure I find talking about what you do and why is better than trying to argue about what someone else thinks. I know it's not the kindest and most dignified way to deal with it but when homeless people ask for money on the occasion where I've actually got some I ask what the guy needs and go buy it. Occasionally it's "I want money for a bus ticket to the hospital" and I'll say "I'll buy the ticket" but they say "can you not just give me the money?". I can't say if they're being dishonest or just not wanting me to go out of my way, but what I'll do in that situation is buy a dayrider ticket that gives someone unlimited bus travel in the city limits for the rest of the day. I do that because the ticket is transferrable, and I can find the person in the street and hand them the ticket. Even then I think what I do is harsh. No one questions me if I want to acquire alcohol and drink myself into a sad lonely stupor on a park bench, but in my system I'm effectively supervising the homeless spending my charity. One guy I worked with talked about his approach to it all "if he's going to cheat me that's on him, but if I'm not going to give to a guy who's asking for help when I have the means then that's on me." Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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