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Ego-bot posted:Remember a couple weeks ago that Andrew Gillum was making a major announcement? Hopefully that includes making sure felons get their voting rights restored properly. e:Tax 
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SocketWrench posted:Not really. Cruz is that desperate to be loved he'll take any insult and still kiss the ring He’s the kind of person that sees Littlefinger as a role model and unironicly says “chaos is a ladder” in private conversation. ColonelMuttonchops posted:Hopefully that includes making sure felons get their voting rights restored properly. I hope there’s a massive fundraising effort to pay off court costs if that policy survives.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:22
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Groovelord Neato posted:how do people who write about politics for a living not understand the entire point of packing the court is ensuring a republican never takes the presidency ever again? Also, the scenario they describe is STILL better than the current one
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Mar 20, 2019 15:22
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:Hopefully that includes making sure felons get their voting rights restored properly. If that poll tax goes through it would be good for one of the left wingish billionaires to just pay for all the felons' court costs. Hopefully the courts in florida don't allow it though.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:23
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theflyingorc posted:My experience with boomer conservatives is that they're trying to stop America from changing to something even slightly different, not that they think we're all going to die. Same, my experience has been that older people just don't want to change or retrain their brains to deal with more modern society. This is about as old as human society and will likely happen to all of you when you get older. Anything changing requires them to rethink their priorities and assumptions--which some do, but the older you get, the more you realize how much has changed since your brain was elastic enough to deal with it well.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:24
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theflyingorc posted:Also, the scenario they describe is STILL better than the current one i know right? i don't get how these people get around the fact that the court IS going to strike down progressive legislation without any legitimate reason. it's like everyone slept through the past two decades. roberts gutted the VRA with absolutely no constitutional excuse.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:24
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Expand the supreme Court to 350 million people
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Mar 20, 2019 15:26
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theflyingorc posted:My experience with boomer conservatives is that they're trying to stop America from changing to something even slightly different, not that they think we're all going to die. This to some extent Boomers were raised in a golden age of growth both in population, power, and wealth while being fed info on the daily Communism is out to kill them, socialism is evil, and capitalism is awesome because look at all you have. I've known many a boomer that still think "duck and cover" will help them survive a direct nuclear blast because the government told them it would...you know, ignoring those two in Japan that vaporized people regardless of cover. They're already convinced the US is going down the toilet because growth and wealth are stagnant or declining as these things tend to do when they reach certain milestones, China becoming a rival industrial power, and the newer generations that avoided all the "you're gonna die" cold war poo poo are more open to just coexisting with everyone meaning the last solid foundation left (US military domination) is under threat of becoming weaker. Boomers are seeing everything they existed with whittling down and it pisses them off.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:27
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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1108374116850192389quote:Contreras concluded that Interior’s Bureau of Land Management “did not sufficiently consider climate change” when making decisions to auction off federal land in Wyoming to oil and gas drilling. The judge temporarily blocked drilling on roughly 300,000 acres of land in the state. This is really interesting.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:28
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Groovelord Neato posted:how do people who write about politics for a living not understand the entire point of packing the court is ensuring a republican never takes the presidency again? *this is a reference to Bush v. Gore and Citizens United, stop writing that post numbskull.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:31
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ewiley posted:Same, my experience has been that older people just don't want to change or retrain their brains to deal with more modern society. This is about as old as human society and will likely happen to all of you when you get older. Anything changing requires them to rethink their priorities and assumptions--which some do, but the older you get, the more you realize how much has changed since your brain was elastic enough to deal with it well. It's more than that - America, except for Republican interference, is becoming a radically different place. Straight white male Christians are rapidly becoming not the de facto standard for human beings here anymore. If your ideal America is Leave It To Beaver or the Andy Griffith show, America just isn't that anymore. People were told that America could be great like it was in their heads. Now that it literally can't be that, they're pushing back to try and get to the ideal they expected. I really think that's the primary motivator of most conservative thought.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:31
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theflyingorc posted:It's more than that - America, except for Republican interference, is becoming a radically different place. Straight white male Christians are rapidly becoming not the de facto standard for human beings here anymore. If your ideal America is Leave It To Beaver or the Andy Griffith show, America just isn't that anymore. lol midlife crisis at 90
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Mar 20, 2019 15:34
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theflyingorc posted:It's more than that - America, except for Republican interference, is becoming a radically different place. Straight white male Christians are rapidly becoming not the de facto standard for human beings here anymore. If your ideal America is Leave It To Beaver or the Andy Griffith show, America just isn't that anymore. Spite and Cruelty is the point. If you encounter a chud in the wild they often assume youre one of them if you're a white guy. They are confused when a government worker stares blankly at them instead of veneration of cops and troops.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:36
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theflyingorc posted:It's more than that - America, except for Republican interference, is becoming a radically different place. Straight white male Christians are rapidly becoming not the de facto standard for human beings here anymore. If your ideal America is Leave It To Beaver or the Andy Griffith show, America just isn't that anymore. I agree, conservatives seem to operate with a certain ideal in mind, but don't really give much consideration that the ideal could be terrible (ironically, the reason is often because of them). They just kind of assume its perfect and work from there.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:40
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RuanGacho posted:Spite and Cruelty is the point. I should have specified - I think there's a difference between "Republican voter" and "MAGA Chud", and I'm talking about those people who don't so much actively hate as feel that Things Are Not Right. This is not to excuse their behavior, but the "nice" conservatives you meet are basically in open rebellion against the direction the soul of America was heading before Trump's election. They wouldn't wear the hood but they don't understand why all these black movies are winning Oscars, back in my day we had real movie stars etc. etc. It's still racism/white supremacy/patriarchy, but they don't know it.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:44
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Paradoxish posted:I'd be shocked if her image could actually be successfully rehabilitated in any meaningful way. Like, she'll be fine, just like everyone who doesn't go to jail in this mess will probably be fine, but I don't think she's going to have some kind of long-term successful public career outside of maybe Fox. I know people who don't give a poo poo about Trump or politics at all who still recognize her as an especially loathsome individual. There's a level of shameless sycophancy that's just wildly obvious and turns off just about everyone. I think she's been hedging her bets with the leaks under her husband's name. With the intent is swinging back into the Generic Conservative Grift if/when the admin goes down in flames. She's never going to be adored by anyone outside of the party, but she's successfully positioned herself to be able to survive the admin collapsing.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:46
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https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1108341534137692160
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Mar 20, 2019 15:49
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Xae posted:I think she's been hedging her bets with the leaks under her husband's name. I was going to say that maybe she'll retire, but then I realized she's only 52? I thought she was way older, she looks terrible
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Mar 20, 2019 15:50
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Conway's gonna ride that whole "first female to manage successful presidential campaign" thing until the wheels fall off.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:55
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SocketWrench posted:This to some extent Duck and Cover does save lives. It keeps people from staring at the blast, being near windows, going outside.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:55
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Beastie posted:Duck and Cover does save lives. It keeps people from staring at the blast, being near windows, going outside. If you're close enough that any of those things matter you're dead, just a matter of on what timeline.
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Mar 20, 2019 15:57
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Terror Sweat posted:Expand the supreme Court to 350 million people There was an Orville episode where an entire planet voted on criminal verdicts like American Idol
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Mar 20, 2019 15:59
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Dapper_Swindler posted:That’s not enough to save trump and those are the same type of morons who unironically believe John gotti is a magical hero. This wasn't about saving Trump, this was about the OP believing that cops in NYC are somehow less chuddy because they live in NYC.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:04
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DaveWoo posted:Bad... or #Badass?
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Mar 20, 2019 16:06
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Scipiotik posted:If you're close enough that any of those things matter you're dead, just a matter of on what timeline. The way circles work mean more area is 2 miles away from the blast than are 1 miles.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:08
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Scipiotik posted:If you're close enough that any of those things matter you're dead, just a matter of on what timeline. It saves lives: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-unexpected-return-of-duck-and-cover/68776/ quote:An atomic explosion can blind you, burn you, crush you with explosive power, or poison you with radiation. The "duck and cover" advice, based in no small part on the experience of Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, was designed to do what could be done to minimize that.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:09
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SocketWrench posted:I've known many a boomer that still think "duck and cover" will help them survive a direct nuclear blast because the government told them it would...you know, ignoring those two in Japan that vaporized I really loving hate the "duck and cover won't save you from a nuclear blast hurr hurr" comments. It wasn't supposed to. It's because the radius where there will be severe structural damage is miles larger than that and getting underneath something will help protect you for from getting hit by flying debris. Scipiotik posted:If you're close enough that any of those things matter you're dead, just a matter of on what timeline. No, you're not. Hundreds of thousands of people survived the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, a lot of them with no long term health effects. Unless by "close enough" you mean on the planet earth after a full scale nuclear exchange.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:09
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Beastie posted:Duck and Cover does save lives. It keeps people from staring at the blast, being near windows, going outside. Thankfully, school desks are made of atomic bomb-proof wood.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:11
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https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1108384941547638784
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Mar 20, 2019 16:11
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Thankfully, school desks are made of atomic bomb-proof wood. https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/atomic-tattoos/ Skip to 5 minutes in. It seems insane but it saves lives.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:12
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Uh wasn't the plea deal guaranteeing him no jail time? What the hell is he doing?
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Mar 20, 2019 16:13
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Random Stranger posted:
The Hiroshima bomb was a firecracker compared to anything that would be released in a modern exchange.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:13
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Random Stranger posted:No, you're not. Hundreds of thousands of people survived the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, a lot of them with no long term health effects. Unless by "close enough" you mean on the planet earth after a full scale nuclear exchange. 
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Mar 20, 2019 16:14
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It's easy to make fun of how it was portrayed but yes duck and cover would definitely save lives compared to being in an open space with nothing protecting you.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:15
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The Hiroshima bomb was a firecracker compared to anything that would be released in a modern exchange. Cool, then the circle outside of the initial blast range that would be saved by this information is EVEN BIGGER than they would have been back in the 50s
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Mar 20, 2019 16:16
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Pakled posted:Uh wasn't the plea deal guaranteeing him no jail time? What the hell is he doing? I heard the plea was guilty but no jail time. You think a billionaire is going to admit they did a no no?
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Mar 20, 2019 16:17
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Pakled posted:Uh wasn't the plea deal guaranteeing him no jail time? What the hell is he doing? The same thing every single other rich people do. He is not gonna accept any "guilty" anywhere near him, even if it's the best possible thing to do.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:17
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Best thing for him is to hold out until he gets no jail and no guilty. Just find some lovely judge who will say he led a blameless life and rape against non citizens isn't a crime anyway then done.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:24
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Pakled posted:Uh wasn't the plea deal guaranteeing him no jail time? What the hell is he doing? The ultra-wealthy are naturally so immune to any consequences that even just being told "you did a bad thing" is unthinkable to them.
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Mar 20, 2019 16:25
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He didn't have to plead guilty, he just had to admit the evidence showed he was guilty, which is what he is refusing to do
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