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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Swirly eyes, duh He's blind, though.
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The swirly eyes smell like lollipops.
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Shugojin posted:GOD that was so loving good and it's a free DLC Yes, it was. Poil posted:How the heck does he expect the worm to know who is a thrall or not? TIME IS SIGHT. GRAVITY IS DESIRE.
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The Worm loves us. It will always love us, and thus it always has. It winds around the hot heart of our home star. It winds around every infinitesimal loop of genetic information. It provokes a shuddering series of cataclysms in the planetary crust of our home, but when our star grows cold, that cataclysm will warm us. We understand so much more. We will always be what we were going to be, wound tight in the love of the Worm.
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Mar 19, 2019 08:32
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Shugojin posted:GOD that was so loving good and it's a free DLC What's this?
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Mar 19, 2019 16:09
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rocketrobot posted:What's this? Stellaris. Super creepy faustain pact your civilization can make with a Lovecraftian monster.
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Mar 19, 2019 16:19
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rocketrobot posted:What's this? A bulge in reality caused by an excited worm.
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Mar 19, 2019 16:20
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Those are both excellent explanations.
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Mar 19, 2019 16:51
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Neither would be as good without the other. I haven't gotten into a 4X since GalCiv2 (which I still crack open now and then) and GalCiv3 was a loving trash fire. Pretty sure I own Stellaris, but I've never actually played it yet. As someone very stuck in her ways when it comes to learning new complicated games, how is it?
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Mar 19, 2019 16:52
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It's pretty good, though there is a learning curve. It's like a scifi trope kitchen sink with tonnes of references too and a lot of good mods.
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PMush Perfect posted:Neither would be as good without the other. It was the game I played the most in 2018, and also so far in 2019. The constant stream of updates and new DLCs means that every time I get bored, there's a reason to come back 3 months later. If you go in with the mindset that the core gameplay loop is, at it's heart, very simple, then you'll be fine. Core gameplay loop: See number > Can I make number bigger? > Do that Start with the basic resources, always try to make them bigger. Need more minerals? Build more mining districts. Out of mining districts? Colonize another planet. Preferably you did this before you ran out of mining districts, but that's the only real learning curve. Secondary resources that make things from your primary resources, same thing. I need more alloys, but do I have enough minerals? I should, if I'm always growing my economy as outlined above. That means I can build more alloy forges.
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I played a game of Stellaris with a friend, before whatever the secondary alloy resources stuff you guys are talking about was. (I played, the friend gave me advice from time to time) I had no loving idea what I was doing, so I figured I should probably stay out of trouble, and picked pacifist, xenophile, and egalitarian for my ethics, and found a friendly, adorable gecko portrait for my race, there was even an appropriate reptilian naming theme for them. Then I figured I might as well go all in on the cute, and named them the Adorky, and the empire "League of Cutesia". (I stick to English-ish names in games that aren't localized my language, or translated poorly) My friend laughed and said I was going to die horribly to the first empire I encounter.  Here's a (cropped) screenshot I still have saved from that game:  Not sure what the "moral democracy" thing was. I guess I had it because I didn't genocide anyone or something like that? Anyway, the start was fairly normal 4x stuff. I explored a bit, built space stations and colonized some planets. Turns out I had a lot of space all for myself, and my first neighbors were rather far away, but a fairly friendly sort. Some spiritualist monkeys who said my guys give them good vibes or something like that. There were a few others in that direction, but nothing special or looking like trouble. Following the galaxy arm in the other direction, though, yiiiiikes. There was this black hole which didn't look like a chokepoint at first, but would become a rather important one later. It had 4 connection, one towards me, one towards a small, isolated cluster of stars, and two that went on their own for a while before meeting back up a long way behind. One of them was fairly large, the other fairly linear and about half the size. I figured I'll explore the isolated bit later, and sent my science ships down the 2 other paths. In the largest cluster, I encountered some floating tentacle things that were a hive mind that wanted to eat me. So, OK, I figured, that's probably going to be my first enemy. Then, in that same cluster, I found some exterminator robots that looked like giant mechanical catterpillars, and figured, OK, you two can play with each other, I am NOT sending my ships anywhere near there. In the other cluster, I found some foxes whose initial greeting seemed nice at first, but then they said they were going to nuke me. And then I realized the leader had a bunch of skulls in its room. Apparently, they had a democratic government dedicated to finding the optimal way to exterminate everyone in the galaxy. OK, gently caress it, you can have that entire section of the galaxy all to yourselves. The science ship in the fox section was blocked off by their empire, and I sent it back to explore the small cluster. The ship in the large cluster navigated inbetween the monster mash to see what's on the other side. Turns out, the point where the star clusters met up was ruled by a xenophobic fallen empire. The best way to decribe these guys would be angry old birds with a death star who wanted all those damned kids to get the gently caress off their lawn. In effect, they were a giant plug preventing the 3 genocidals from expanding that way, and instead driving them to expand towards me. Bad, but at least there was nobody else at risk of being massacred by them, and they were likely going to severely weaken each other with constant fights and mutual extermination, while I slowly build up and buddy up with my friendlier neighbors. Then my science ship in the small cluster found a planet with modern age pacifist humanoids. Who had no space technology, and no way to defend themselves, especially not against what was coming their way. Oh no. I ended up spending almost all my resources rapidly snaking my way towards that chokepoint to block them off, my builder beating the foxes there by a ridiculously narrow margin (their builder was in the system when I started my station to claim it). Not long after that, the foxes declared war on me, but I was able to just barely hold them off with a combination of the black hole's effects, my battlestation, and my fleet. Then the hive mind declared war on me, and I actually lost the system, but then the robots attacked them, and I managed to take it back in a desperate counterattack. Their war ended with the robots taking a bite out of the hive mind's space, and ending up bordering me. A few years later, they too attacked me, but I was more prepared, and fought them off, and then the hive mind attacked them and took the bordering system back. The next century was a mix of rabid fox attacks and a tug of war between the hive and the exterminators, with the winners taking the bordering system, attacking me, losing their fleet, and then being counterattacked by the other - rinse and repeat. On the bright side, I managed to help the humanoids enter space age, and they were quite fond of my guys. They even sent their hilariously tiny and obsolete fleet to help me defend my black hole station against the space assholes. 
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I'm just going to point out that Stellaris is in a humble bundle right now for $9. I played my first game of it over the weekend and I like a lot of it, but found it to be on the slow side even by the standards of 4X.
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PMush Perfect posted:I haven't gotten into a 4X since GalCiv2 (which I still crack open now and then) and GalCiv3 was a loving trash fire. What was so bad about 3? As background, I loved 1 and played a trillion games of it, and got 2 but couldn't get into it much.
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my dad posted:Then my science ship in the small cluster found a planet with modern age pacifist humanoids. Who had no space technology, and no way to defend themselves, especially not against what was coming their way.  Gynovore posted:What was so bad about 3? As background, I loved 1 and played a trillion games of it, and got 2 but couldn't get into it much. It felt like the game was gutted so main mechanics could be made into DLC, but then even that didn't happen. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Mar 19, 2019 20:30
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my dad posted:Here's a (cropped) screenshot I still have saved from that game: Your government type, in this case Moral Democracy, is based off your governing ethics. Pacifist + xenophile + egalitarian = moral democracy.
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PMush Perfect posted:Oh my God, that is adorable. I just really hate the stardock tone, it's like a snarky nerd snuffling in your ear. Plus the owner is kind of a dickbag.
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If Stellaris is good, there's no reason to go back unless you really like turn based (I do) or you're curious. I'm not saying it's above criticism, just that I'm stuck in my ways and the only thing I've tried since was worse.
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my dad posted:Then my science ship in the small cluster found a planet with modern age pacifist humanoids. Who had no space technology, and no way to defend themselves, especially not against what was coming their way. This is why Stellaris owns. Also, the game is actually coded so that the "cute" aliens are the biggest assholes. When generating a random empire, if a cute alien portrait is chosen by the randomizer, the government randomizer is weighted towards the "genocidal rear end in a top hat" end of the scale. The foxes even have specific insults coded in.
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Shugojin posted:GOD that was so loving good and it's a free DLC Gonna say this is the last place I expected a Stellaris reference.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Your government type, in this case Moral Democracy, is based off your governing ethics. Pacifist + xenophile + egalitarian = moral democracy. More specifically, it's for being a pacifist democracy. It's mostly for flavor reasons, (your ruler is the Prime Minister, whereas other democracies could be ruled by a President, First Speaker or Revered Elder), but it also affects the personality of AI empires and which leaders can run for office; pacifist governments cannot be run by a general or admiral.
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Y'all are getting way the hell off topic.
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Nipponophile posted:Y'all are getting way the hell off topic.
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PMush Perfect posted:What 4X do you think a blind snake noticing a strip that mostly exists for pacing would prefer? Sim Ant
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PMush Perfect posted:What 4X do you think a blind snake noticing a strip that mostly exists for pacing would prefer? Master of Magic, the most D&D-esque 4X.
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Most people don't realize that the game Snake is a 4x.
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reignofevil posted:Most people don't realize that the game Snake is a 4x.
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I wonder what a rpg webcomic where the characters are playing a space 4X would look like.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I wonder what a rpg webcomic where the characters are playing a space 4X would look like. Erfworld but in space
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Don't give Rob ideas.
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I've seen webcomics cover Civilization, but never a space game like that. I feel like games where you explore the galaxy really need to have some heavy flavor to them to work and be interesting, like Alpha Centauri or Star Control 2. The bulk of the technologies and principles involved are already going to be mostly fictional, so you better make it interesting fiction. I've seen a few things lately try to just have a thin layer of flavor just to get into a sci-fi setting without being "too silly" and it kind of falls flat.
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The Metal Gear/Civ5 crossover fanfiction/LP was great but a good chunk of that was the boss fight fan fiction for leaders of other civs.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I wonder what a rpg webcomic where the characters are playing a space 4X would look like. Well there's Outsider, but the protagonist isn't really at the stage where he's playing the game yet. At the pace it's going and with the update rhythm of the author, it should happen at some point during the 24th century. (The author openly admits he was inspired by Master of Orion and Star Control, and also works on his own Space 4X game, so I think it counts.)
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xanthan posted:The Metal Gear/Civ5 crossover fanfiction/LP was great but a good chunk of that was the boss fight fan fiction for leaders of other civs. I’m sorry, the what?
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Thaddius the Large posted:I’m sorry, the what? Civilization V - Peace Walker
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It's loving incredible how well Speedball mashed MGS into Civ. The mod is great too but Speedball made that LP incredible.
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Thanks, sounded too oddball to not check out
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PMush Perfect posted:Don't give Rob ideas. At this point someone has to.
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Cat Mattress posted:Well there's Outsider, but the protagonist isn't really at the stage where he's playing the game yet. At the pace it's going and with the update rhythm of the author, it should happen at some point during the 24th century. (The author openly admits he was inspired by Master of Orion and Star Control, and also works on his own Space 4X game, so I think it counts.) Nice, I'll check it out.
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All it took was one strip for the Worm to become my favorite new minor character. Sorry, nihilistic wolf. It's gonna be a shame when the worm is beaten. Sky Shadowing posted:It's loving incredible how well Speedball mashed MGS into Civ. Yeah, that was a good read, I'll add my vote for it. (Speedball appreciates the kind words, by the way.)
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